Israeli and U.S. Groups sued for $34.5 Billion For Funding Settlements

[theliq]

>>The money goes mostly to schools, synagogues, recreation centers and the like, legitimate expenditures under the tax law.<<

The thing is they do not need it , also all the rich jews in the US making money off of us gentiles send their money to Israel.

If Jews make money, it's because they work hard and are ambitious. My dad came to this country with nothing and was able to build some wealth with his 10 fingers.

Goodness !!!!!!!! I thought it was 8 Fingers and 2 Thumbs...........I'm always right....in future Forever use the term "Two Hands"......I Magnificent Liq,bringing basic EDUCATION to Jews Worldwide..............

 

[Phoenall]

Unreal isn't it.

US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis

By Alison Weir on September 17, 2012

American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world.

The Israeli army’s chief of staff states that in the past three years, “US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers,” according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper.

Some of the other top recipients of US tax money, Egypt and Jordan, were provided this assistance in return for diplomatic recognition of the Israeli state.

According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it.


US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis | Veterans News Now

I agree, awful! We should give money to send the Arabs living there to Syria.
Lots of room, no pesky Jews to blame for their failures.

Why americans are allowed only to help this Apartheid army not other armies in world?
Does it confirm that US is under zionist tribe control?

NO as they also help Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Somalia, Sudan and most other islamonazi nations. So it confirmd they are under islamonazi control.................

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

Isn't this seriously old news (four years old), crafted, framed and massaged to incite American Anger against the only country in the Middle East that shows any signs of success and yet, is defending itself against the Entire Arab League (minus 2), and religious radicals of Iran.

Yes, we discussed this very topic from the annual Congressional Research Service Report (US Foreign Aid to Israel 2012 CRS RL33222 MAR 2012) which was the basis for the
Article written by Alison Weir on September 17, 2012.

This is just a different approach in an attempt, by anti-Israeli and pro-Islamic Radicals, to smear the character of the State of Israel. Yes, at the time the article was written,
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. By 2012, the US has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance over a 60 year period (1948-2012).

The June 2015 --- Congressional Research Service --- US Foreign Aid to Israel --- states that:

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $124.3 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.
​

The policy is to ensure that Israel maintains a qualitative military advantage and edge necessary to defend the Jewish National Home from the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) that would, given the opportunity, to military oppose the recommendations made by the UN Special Committee on Palestine (1947) and adopted by the UN General Assembly.

For FY2016, the following legislation addresses U.S. foreign assistance to Israel:

• A draft House FY2016 Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs bill would provide Israel $3.1 billion in FMF as requested.

• H.R. 1735, the House version of the National Defense Authorization bill for FY2016, authorizes up to $371.2 million for various U.S.-Israeli joint missile defense systems including: $41.4 million for Iron Dome, $249.8 million for David’s Sling; $34.5 million for Arrow 3, and $45.5 million for Arrow 2.

• S. 1376, the Senate version of the National Defense Authorization bill for FY2016, authorizes up to $372.4 million for various U.S.-Israeli joint missile defense systems.

• A draft House FY2016 Defense Appropriations bill would provide $487.595 million for U.S.-Israeli joint missile defense programs, of which $55 million is for Iron Dome, $286.526 million is for David’s Sling, $89.550 million is for Arrow 3, and $56.519 million is for Arrow 2.
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To put these numbers in proper perspective:

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Most fighter equipped units have an authorized number of 18 to 24. A squadron of Marine F-35Bs cost $4.5B, not including the ground equipment and maintenance.

(The little country of the UAE has 6 Squadrons of F-16s; whereas Saudi Arabia has 7 squadrons of fighter bombers and 6 fighter squadrons most composed of F-15s; but the new Typhoon at ≈ $100M per unit is coming on line.)
​

Since the unlateral Israeli withdraw from the Gaza Strip, and the Oslo Accords for the West Bank Self-Government, the US government has obligated over $5 billion in bilateral economic and non-lethal security assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid from the US. This aid had three prinicple concepts behind it:

 Promoting the prevention or mitigation of terrorism against Israel from Hamas and other militant organizations.

 Fostering stability, prosperity, and self-governance in the West Bank that may incline Palestinians toward peaceful coexistence with Israel and a “two-state solution.”

 Meeting humanitarian needs
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I hope this gives a little insight.

Most Respectfully,
R

to incite American Anger against the only country in the Middle East that shows any signs of success and yet,​

With what Israel has stolen and mooched, Haiti would be a success.

And yet you refuse to produce any evidence of these false claims, why is that ?

 

[Phoenall]

Freeman, et al,

This is non-sense!

Why americans are allowed only to help this Apartheid army not other armies in world?
Does it confirm that US is under zionist tribe control?

(COMMENT)

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

The US has given Lebanon over $100M in aid since 2006.

In a brief statement, the US State Department said it planned to provide $1 billion per year to Jordan for each of the US fiscal years for 2015, 2016 and 2017. The US fiscal year ends on September 30.

State department officials said the military aid was released to the authorities in Cairo about 10 days ago, after getting a green light from Congress.

For Egypt the funds - from the annual $1.5bn of chiefly military aid - will mainly be used to pay existing defence contracts. The US also promised it would provide 10 Apache attack helicopters for use by the army against militants in the Sinai peninsula.
​

All the Middle Eastern countries get some form of aid the US. But the US has to be careful that today's Arab Allies might well become anti-American for nearly any reason.

Most Respectfully,
R

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

Who told you that? Israel?

No people who don't lie, unlike you who lies constantly.

How about showing one instance of apartheid action by Israel in Israel on Israeli citizens. Those are the defining criteria, so what happens over the green line is not apartheid but allowed under international law.

 

[Phoenall]

Freeman, et al,

This is non-sense!

Why americans are allowed only to help this Apartheid army not other armies in world?
Does it confirm that US is under zionist tribe control?

(COMMENT)

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

The US has given Lebanon over $100M in aid since 2006.

In a brief statement, the US State Department said it planned to provide $1 billion per year to Jordan for each of the US fiscal years for 2015, 2016 and 2017. The US fiscal year ends on September 30.

State department officials said the military aid was released to the authorities in Cairo about 10 days ago, after getting a green light from Congress.

For Egypt the funds - from the annual $1.5bn of chiefly military aid - will mainly be used to pay existing defence contracts. The US also promised it would provide 10 Apache attack helicopters for use by the army against militants in the Sinai peninsula.
​

All the Middle Eastern countries get some form of aid the US. But the US has to be careful that today's Arab Allies might well become anti-American for nearly any reason.

Most Respectfully,
R

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

Who told you that? Israel?

Ask the christians and muslims persecuted, Israel is defined as "jewish state" so it's Apatheid state.

WRONG as this would mean most islamonazi states would be apartheid because they are Islamic states. Yes lets ask the 90% of Christians that have been ethnically cleansed from palestine since 2007 by hamas and fatah shall we.

 

[Phoenall]

Freeman, et al,

This is non-sense!

Why americans are allowed only to help this Apartheid army not other armies in world?
Does it confirm that US is under zionist tribe control?

(COMMENT)

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

The US has given Lebanon over $100M in aid since 2006.

In a brief statement, the US State Department said it planned to provide $1 billion per year to Jordan for each of the US fiscal years for 2015, 2016 and 2017. The US fiscal year ends on September 30.

State department officials said the military aid was released to the authorities in Cairo about 10 days ago, after getting a green light from Congress.

For Egypt the funds - from the annual $1.5bn of chiefly military aid - will mainly be used to pay existing defence contracts. The US also promised it would provide 10 Apache attack helicopters for use by the army against militants in the Sinai peninsula.
​

All the Middle Eastern countries get some form of aid the US. But the US has to be careful that today's Arab Allies might well become anti-American for nearly any reason.

Most Respectfully,
R

Yes Israel is an apartheid regime, Don't you think its only right since we bombed the heck out of Syria and Iraq, we give more to Jordan and Lebanon since they took in most of the fleeing refugees?

How about evidence showing this false claim to be true then ?

 

[Phoenall]

Freeman, et al,

This is non-sense!

Why americans are allowed only to help this Apartheid army not other armies in world?
Does it confirm that US is under zionist tribe control?

(COMMENT)

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

The US has given Lebanon over $100M in aid since 2006.

In a brief statement, the US State Department said it planned to provide $1 billion per year to Jordan for each of the US fiscal years for 2015, 2016 and 2017. The US fiscal year ends on September 30.

State department officials said the military aid was released to the authorities in Cairo about 10 days ago, after getting a green light from Congress.

For Egypt the funds - from the annual $1.5bn of chiefly military aid - will mainly be used to pay existing defence contracts. The US also promised it would provide 10 Apache attack helicopters for use by the army against militants in the Sinai peninsula.
​

All the Middle Eastern countries get some form of aid the US. But the US has to be careful that today's Arab Allies might well become anti-American for nearly any reason.

Most Respectfully,
R

First Israel is not an "apartheid" state.

Who told you that? Israel?

(COMMENT)

What are the Elements of a Crime?

• The elements of a crime are a series of components which must be present in order for it to be demonstrated that someone is guilty of a crime. The prosecution must provide supporting evidence to demonstrate that all of the parts of a crime are present in a given case and the defense can challenge the validity of a case on one or more elements. Different legal systems have different standards and some truly bizarre cases have arisen to test the legal definition of the elements of a crime.

• Four key components must be present: intent, conduct, concurrence, and causation. Without one of these elements, a case can start to fall apart. This fact explains why sometimes the defense will freely admit to something which seems incriminating, only to still win the case; it accepts that one element was present, but denies other elements of a crime and uses these to deconstruct the prosecution's case.

Elements of Crimes (Page 12)
Article 7 (1) (j) Crime Against Humanity of Apartheid

Elements

1. The perpetrator committed an inhumane act against one or more persons.

Early in Israel's latest round of hostilities with Hamas, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu released a statement: "No country in the world [would] agree to suffer relentless missile attacks and infiltration attempts." His words have since been repeated frequently, usually in support (qualified or un-) of Israel's operation in Gaza.
There is an inarguable truth here: No country would sit idly by under such circumstances. Every state, and every citizen in those states, has a universally recognized right to self-defense.
The Week 6 August 2014
• Ynetnews Published: 08.23.14,
"Hamas leader Khaled Mashal admitted for the first time in an interview with Yahoo News on Saturday that Hamas militants were behind the kidnapping and killing of three Israeli teenagers in the Hebron area in June, and claimed that the political leadership was "not aware of this action taken by this group of Hamas members in advance.
The interview, conducted at a Hamas media office in Doha, Qatar, came after violent days which saw ceasefire efforts to reach a long term ceasefire between Israel and Hamas collapse, amid renewed cross border rocket fire by Gaza militants." Hamas admits to kidnapping three Israeli teens​

2. Such act was an act referred to in Article 7, Paragraph 1, of the Statute, or was an act of a character similar to any of those acts. (It is understood that “character” refers to the nature and gravity of the act.)

3. The perpetrator was aware of the factual circumstances that established the character of the act.

4. The conduct was committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups.

Israel has no context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination over the Palestinians. Not in the same context as the HAMAS Covenant or the Political Policy. Israel responded militarily to the volley of rockets from Gaza; and increased security countermeasure that followed terrorist attacks against civilian (noncombatants).
Israel is many times multi-cultural and ethnically diverse than any aspect if the Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza Strip. There is no oppression or domination of any Israeli group over any racial group in the 1988 State of Palestine. There is no Palestinian demographic groups that are not found in Israel.​

5. The perpetrator intended to maintain such regime by that conduct.

• The State of Israel is attempting to maintain the regime called the Jewish National Home in the former Mandate and the Jewish State called Israel as recommended in the 1947 General Assembly Resolution 181(II).

6. The conduct was committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population.

The Administration of the the West Bank and Gaza Strip were a result of a conflict between Israel and the states of Egypt and Jordan. This conflict has been resolved by means of a treaty and the international boundaries established accordingly. There was no attack of the civilian population.​

7. The perpetrator knew that the conduct was part of or intended the conduct to be part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population.

There was no "widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population." The Palestinians were exploiting their population by:

• Location of Military Objectives outside Densely Populated Areas
• 24.Removal of Civilians and Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Objectives

Most Respectfully,
R

Of course the blame for the after the fact back and forth incidents depend on where you want to start the clock of history.

And where would you like to start the clock ? I prefer the day that mo'mad proclaimed to the muslim world " KILL ALL THE JEWS " as the start of the problems in the world with the muslims.

 

[Phoenall]

It's the first time I know that US law allow american citizens to donate to the occupying israeli military (the only military on earth)! amazing!

Israeli and U.S. Groups sued for $34.5 Billion for funding construction of Israeli settlements

Tuesday March 08, 2016 12:24

by Celine Hagbard - IMEMC News

A group of Palestinians and Palestinian-Americans who have been victims of Israeli settlement construction filed a lawsuit this week to demand financial compensation from some of the companies, individuals and organizations responsible for funding the construction.


Israeli settlement construction takes place on illegally seized Palestinian land, and is considered a flagrant violation of international law and Israel's responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention as an occupying power.

The U.S. Government has also condemned Israeli settlement construction – although a bill being considered by the U.S. Congress right now would make it illegal to boycott Israeli products that come from these illegal settlements.

In fact, U.S. Law currently allows U.S. Citizens to donate to the Israeli military directly – the only military on earth that U.S. Citizens are allowed to directly donate to. In addition, U.S. Citizens and groups are permitted to give tax-deductible donations to Israeli settlement construction project – despite the fact that doing so directly violates U.S. Stated policy.

Wait till the Israelis sue the Palestinians for their terrorism. That'll stick much more.

Hasn't that already been done and the P.A. have not started payments yet. They cant afford this and the illegal weapons

 

[Phoenall]

Toddsterpatriot, et al,

Actually, the US should adopt a policy wherein we should gradually and cautiously back away from countries that support radical Islamic extremists, and terminate foreign aid packets to countries that have been opponents of US policy.

Yes, we should give money to Syria to take in all the "Palestinians", so they don't have to live under mean Jews.

(COMMENT)

Since the days of Yasser Arafat and the consummation of the Oslo Peace Accords in September 1993, at least 54 Americans have been murdered by Palestinian terrorist action.

The US needs to abort its donor activity and humanitarian efforts towards the Palestinians, and any country that still has failed to achieve a peaceful settlement with Israel. This would include both Syria and Lebanon.

Every country, including the 1988 State of Palestine, has the right to decide who their allies are and who the opposition might be. Both the US and the Palestinians have the right to pick and choose who their friends are. The US needs to avoid diplomatic entanglements with nations that present a clear and present danger to America, her citizens and interests.

Note: the Last American killed was Taylor Force; 9 March 2016 at the Port of Jaffa, when a Palestinian indiscriminate attacks against civilians at the Port entrance, and killing anyone in reach.
​

If the US involvement in the peace process is such a failure, the the US should abandon that effort until such time as a more effective strategy is developed. And during that development phase, the US should take what steps that are necessary to improve the defense of the Jewish National Home and preserve the stability and culture of the people.

Passively, the US should adopt a posture such that US immigration enforces visa limitations, and declines the nonessential travel of Arab Palestinians to America for any reason.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

And who would you put in their place, after all they are all terrorist groups according to the international community

 

[Phoenall]

>>The money goes mostly to schools, synagogues, recreation centers and the like, legitimate expenditures under the tax law.<<

You typically forgot to mention WEAPONS, Mush Mush

And you typically forget that the weapons are to defend against islamonazi terrorism. Or do you support and defend this action because it is just Jews they are killing ?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, what agreements within the Oslo Accords are important. The Palestinian National Authority ](PNA) (AKA: The Palestinian Authority)(PA)] was established in 1994 as an outcome of the Oslo peace process as the elected government.

Remember: The abrogation of the Oslo Accords does not change the Seventh Arab Summit Resolution on Palestine, Rabat, Morocco, October 1974. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is by decree, the authoritarian government established by the Arab League.

"2. To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"
​

The Arab Palestinians cannot demonstrate any more competence in government today, then it could back in 1974; or that exercised by the All Palestine Government between (1948-1959); under the flag of the 1916 Arab Revolt. There is no greater example in the world of a government in chaos than the internal disunity and inter-Arab politics --- than that reflected by the Palestinians. While the violence never subsides, the ability to create and perpetuate a self-replicating government on time, and in accordance with the Basic Law, simply has not been exhibited. The Arab Palestinians do not control their fate any more today, then they did in 1948

The conflicting and shifting interests that defined the regional politics of the Middle East in 1948 characterized the existence and failure of the All-Palestine Government. There may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinians, but Egypt’s and Transjordan’s relationships with the All-Palestine Government are a better indication of their own interests. While Egypt and other Arab League states supported the idea of a Palestinian state, their decision to support the All-Palestine Government was motivated more by blocking Transjordan’s claims to represent the Palestinians than by a fundamental desire to realize Palestinian national aspirations. King Faruq of Egypt did not need Gaza as much as King Abdallah of Transjordan needed the West Bank for political gain, and this difference informed the two countries’ contrasting approaches to the question of a Palestinian government. Historian Avi Shlaim writes, “Ostensibly the embryo for an independent Palestinian state, the new government, from the moment of its inception, was thus reduced to the unhappy role of a shuttlecock in the ongoing power struggle between Cairo and Amman.”
SOURCE: Inter-Arab Rivalry and the All-Palestine Government of 1948 - Institute for Palestinian Studies
​

Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

(COMMENT)

The Arab-Palestinian create chaos, political disturbances and conduct terrorist in much the same way as drug kingpins and warlords; and for the very same reason (the maintenance of power). Just as there may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinian people in 1948, in 1967, and right through today; Egypt’s and Jordan’s relationships today with the PA and HAMAS are still demonstrative of their own interests. The Arab League regional concern is that the radicalized Islamic terrorist profile exhibited by the Arab Palestinians is constrained and stopped from spreading.

Objectively, the continuous conflict is to pressure Israel into making concessions with HAMAS such that over time, Israel will give-up more and more while the HAMAS compromises nothing.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, what agreements within the Oslo Accords are important. The Palestinian National Authority ](PNA) (AKA: The Palestinian Authority)(PA)] was established in 1994 as an outcome of the Oslo peace process as the elected government.

Remember: The abrogation of the Oslo Accords does not change the Seventh Arab Summit Resolution on Palestine, Rabat, Morocco, October 1974. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is by decree, the authoritarian government established by the Arab League.

"2. To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"
​

The Arab Palestinians cannot demonstrate any more competence in government today, then it could back in 1974; or that exercised by the All Palestine Government between (1948-1959); under the flag of the 1916 Arab Revolt. There is no greater example in the world of a government in chaos than the internal disunity and inter-Arab politics --- than that reflected by the Palestinians. While the violence never subsides, the ability to create and perpetuate a self-replicating government on time, and in accordance with the Basic Law, simply has not been exhibited. The Arab Palestinians do not control their fate any more today, then they did in 1948

The conflicting and shifting interests that defined the regional politics of the Middle East in 1948 characterized the existence and failure of the All-Palestine Government. There may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinians, but Egypt’s and Transjordan’s relationships with the All-Palestine Government are a better indication of their own interests. While Egypt and other Arab League states supported the idea of a Palestinian state, their decision to support the All-Palestine Government was motivated more by blocking Transjordan’s claims to represent the Palestinians than by a fundamental desire to realize Palestinian national aspirations. King Faruq of Egypt did not need Gaza as much as King Abdallah of Transjordan needed the West Bank for political gain, and this difference informed the two countries’ contrasting approaches to the question of a Palestinian government. Historian Avi Shlaim writes, “Ostensibly the embryo for an independent Palestinian state, the new government, from the moment of its inception, was thus reduced to the unhappy role of a shuttlecock in the ongoing power struggle between Cairo and Amman.”
SOURCE: Inter-Arab Rivalry and the All-Palestine Government of 1948 - Institute for Palestinian Studies
​

Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

(COMMENT)

The Arab-Palestinian create chaos, political disturbances and conduct terrorist in much the same way as drug kingpins and warlords; and for the very same reason (the maintenance of power). Just as there may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinian people in 1948, in 1967, and right through today; Egypt’s and Jordan’s relationships today with the PA and HAMAS are still demonstrative of their own interests. The Arab League regional concern is that the radicalized Islamic terrorist profile exhibited by the Arab Palestinians is constrained and stopped from spreading.

Objectively, the continuous conflict is to pressure Israel into making concessions with HAMAS such that over time, Israel will give-up more and more while the HAMAS compromises nothing.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you are a hoot.

Palestine is the poster child of illegal external interference.

 

[Boston1]

Gooo Rocco.

Bottom line is you can squander all the billions you want to on the Arab Muslims in Israel, they are more interested in personal gain than they are in any form of actual government.

Its a rather sad parade of one self interested con man after another starting with the Egyptian.

IMF audit reveals Arafat embezzled nearly 1 billion

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj52pC40PLLAhXBkYMKHfOrBIwQFggcMAA&url=https://electronicintifada.net/content/imf-audit-reveals-arafat-diverted-900-million-account-under-his-personal-control/1348&usg=AFQjCNGT-RCHT3b4eQQZtKAk8iM88wdnlg&sig2=Waja02ECe9EzYxTbXCJq3A

How did Arafat get so rich ?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...bUsYPru8RuP2rue2Q&sig2=oj1nQlll29IXMVfDkSjO7Q

Arafat advisor wanted for embezzlement

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...S82MPb9U4f-57mT7A&sig2=TaSuRyUmpJr4iZN4DiKBEg

How much has Abbas embezzled

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...fD8XmEscq4vgEsvBQ&sig2=LNdSYZwR6TTZiz9Il_diNA

Where are Arafats stolen billions

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...pRwsURSeykPmQ2yxQ&sig2=643yYcbmXkcehNGlgL2V_w

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gooo Rocco.

Bottom line is you can squander all the billions you want to on the Arab Muslims in Israel, they are more interested in personal gain than they are in any form of actual government.

Its a rather sad parade of one self interested con man after another starting with the Egyptian.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj52pC40PLLAhXBkYMKHfOrBIwQFggcMAA&url=https://electronicintifada.net/content/imf-audit-reveals-arafat-diverted-900-million-account-under-his-personal-control/1348&usg=AFQjCNGT-RCHT3b4eQQZtKAk8iM88wdnlg&sig2=Waja02ECe9EzYxTbXCJq3A

Indeed, that is why he should leave.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, what agreements within the Oslo Accords are important. The Palestinian National Authority ](PNA) (AKA: The Palestinian Authority)(PA)] was established in 1994 as an outcome of the Oslo peace process as the elected government.

Remember: The abrogation of the Oslo Accords does not change the Seventh Arab Summit Resolution on Palestine, Rabat, Morocco, October 1974. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is by decree, the authoritarian government established by the Arab League.

"2. To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"
​

The Arab Palestinians cannot demonstrate any more competence in government today, then it could back in 1974; or that exercised by the All Palestine Government between (1948-1959); under the flag of the 1916 Arab Revolt. There is no greater example in the world of a government in chaos than the internal disunity and inter-Arab politics --- than that reflected by the Palestinians. While the violence never subsides, the ability to create and perpetuate a self-replicating government on time, and in accordance with the Basic Law, simply has not been exhibited. The Arab Palestinians do not control their fate any more today, then they did in 1948

The conflicting and shifting interests that defined the regional politics of the Middle East in 1948 characterized the existence and failure of the All-Palestine Government. There may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinians, but Egypt’s and Transjordan’s relationships with the All-Palestine Government are a better indication of their own interests. While Egypt and other Arab League states supported the idea of a Palestinian state, their decision to support the All-Palestine Government was motivated more by blocking Transjordan’s claims to represent the Palestinians than by a fundamental desire to realize Palestinian national aspirations. King Faruq of Egypt did not need Gaza as much as King Abdallah of Transjordan needed the West Bank for political gain, and this difference informed the two countries’ contrasting approaches to the question of a Palestinian government. Historian Avi Shlaim writes, “Ostensibly the embryo for an independent Palestinian state, the new government, from the moment of its inception, was thus reduced to the unhappy role of a shuttlecock in the ongoing power struggle between Cairo and Amman.”
SOURCE: Inter-Arab Rivalry and the All-Palestine Government of 1948 - Institute for Palestinian Studies
​

Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

(COMMENT)

The Arab-Palestinian create chaos, political disturbances and conduct terrorist in much the same way as drug kingpins and warlords; and for the very same reason (the maintenance of power). Just as there may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinian people in 1948, in 1967, and right through today; Egypt’s and Jordan’s relationships today with the PA and HAMAS are still demonstrative of their own interests. The Arab League regional concern is that the radicalized Islamic terrorist profile exhibited by the Arab Palestinians is constrained and stopped from spreading.

Objectively, the continuous conflict is to pressure Israel into making concessions with HAMAS such that over time, Israel will give-up more and more while the HAMAS compromises nothing.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you are a hoot.

Palestine is the poster child of illegal external interference.

What a shame that the Arabs-Moslems occupying the disputed territories are so ineffectual and incompetent that they're wholly unable to manage their affairs.

Hey, maybe If the UN established a dedicated welfare agency for their exclusive abuse and mismanagement, the Arabs-Moslems could find a way to finance an entire Islamic terrorist infrastructure network.

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, what agreements within the Oslo Accords are important. The Palestinian National Authority ](PNA) (AKA: The Palestinian Authority)(PA)] was established in 1994 as an outcome of the Oslo peace process as the elected government.

Remember: The abrogation of the Oslo Accords does not change the Seventh Arab Summit Resolution on Palestine, Rabat, Morocco, October 1974. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is by decree, the authoritarian government established by the Arab League.

"2. To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"
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The Arab Palestinians cannot demonstrate any more competence in government today, then it could back in 1974; or that exercised by the All Palestine Government between (1948-1959); under the flag of the 1916 Arab Revolt. There is no greater example in the world of a government in chaos than the internal disunity and inter-Arab politics --- than that reflected by the Palestinians. While the violence never subsides, the ability to create and perpetuate a self-replicating government on time, and in accordance with the Basic Law, simply has not been exhibited. The Arab Palestinians do not control their fate any more today, then they did in 1948

The conflicting and shifting interests that defined the regional politics of the Middle East in 1948 characterized the existence and failure of the All-Palestine Government. There may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinians, but Egypt’s and Transjordan’s relationships with the All-Palestine Government are a better indication of their own interests. While Egypt and other Arab League states supported the idea of a Palestinian state, their decision to support the All-Palestine Government was motivated more by blocking Transjordan’s claims to represent the Palestinians than by a fundamental desire to realize Palestinian national aspirations. King Faruq of Egypt did not need Gaza as much as King Abdallah of Transjordan needed the West Bank for political gain, and this difference informed the two countries’ contrasting approaches to the question of a Palestinian government. Historian Avi Shlaim writes, “Ostensibly the embryo for an independent Palestinian state, the new government, from the moment of its inception, was thus reduced to the unhappy role of a shuttlecock in the ongoing power struggle between Cairo and Amman.”
SOURCE: Inter-Arab Rivalry and the All-Palestine Government of 1948 - Institute for Palestinian Studies
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Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

(COMMENT)

The Arab-Palestinian create chaos, political disturbances and conduct terrorist in much the same way as drug kingpins and warlords; and for the very same reason (the maintenance of power). Just as there may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinian people in 1948, in 1967, and right through today; Egypt’s and Jordan’s relationships today with the PA and HAMAS are still demonstrative of their own interests. The Arab League regional concern is that the radicalized Islamic terrorist profile exhibited by the Arab Palestinians is constrained and stopped from spreading.

Objectively, the continuous conflict is to pressure Israel into making concessions with HAMAS such that over time, Israel will give-up more and more while the HAMAS compromises nothing.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you are a hoot.

Palestine is the poster child of illegal external interference.

What a shame that the Arabs-Moslems occupying the disputed territories are so ineffectual and incompetent that they're wholly unable to manage their affairs.

Hey, maybe If the UN established a dedicated welfare agency for their exclusive abuse and mismanagement, the Arabs-Moslems could find a way to finance an entire Islamic terrorist infrastructure network.

Indeed, the US installed Abbas and his oligarch friends would jump on that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nutandyahoo still banging on about his terrorist propaganda campaign.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, what agreements within the Oslo Accords are important. The Palestinian National Authority ](PNA) (AKA: The Palestinian Authority)(PA)] was established in 1994 as an outcome of the Oslo peace process as the elected government.

Remember: The abrogation of the Oslo Accords does not change the Seventh Arab Summit Resolution on Palestine, Rabat, Morocco, October 1974. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is by decree, the authoritarian government established by the Arab League.

"2. To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"
​

The Arab Palestinians cannot demonstrate any more competence in government today, then it could back in 1974; or that exercised by the All Palestine Government between (1948-1959); under the flag of the 1916 Arab Revolt. There is no greater example in the world of a government in chaos than the internal disunity and inter-Arab politics --- than that reflected by the Palestinians. While the violence never subsides, the ability to create and perpetuate a self-replicating government on time, and in accordance with the Basic Law, simply has not been exhibited. The Arab Palestinians do not control their fate any more today, then they did in 1948

The conflicting and shifting interests that defined the regional politics of the Middle East in 1948 characterized the existence and failure of the All-Palestine Government. There may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinians, but Egypt’s and Transjordan’s relationships with the All-Palestine Government are a better indication of their own interests. While Egypt and other Arab League states supported the idea of a Palestinian state, their decision to support the All-Palestine Government was motivated more by blocking Transjordan’s claims to represent the Palestinians than by a fundamental desire to realize Palestinian national aspirations. King Faruq of Egypt did not need Gaza as much as King Abdallah of Transjordan needed the West Bank for political gain, and this difference informed the two countries’ contrasting approaches to the question of a Palestinian government. Historian Avi Shlaim writes, “Ostensibly the embryo for an independent Palestinian state, the new government, from the moment of its inception, was thus reduced to the unhappy role of a shuttlecock in the ongoing power struggle between Cairo and Amman.”
SOURCE: Inter-Arab Rivalry and the All-Palestine Government of 1948 - Institute for Palestinian Studies
​

Maybe the PA should fold its tent. They just get in the way of any progress.

(COMMENT)

The Arab-Palestinian create chaos, political disturbances and conduct terrorist in much the same way as drug kingpins and warlords; and for the very same reason (the maintenance of power). Just as there may have been some genuine concern for the fate of the Palestinian people in 1948, in 1967, and right through today; Egypt’s and Jordan’s relationships today with the PA and HAMAS are still demonstrative of their own interests. The Arab League regional concern is that the radicalized Islamic terrorist profile exhibited by the Arab Palestinians is constrained and stopped from spreading.

Objectively, the continuous conflict is to pressure Israel into making concessions with HAMAS such that over time, Israel will give-up more and more while the HAMAS compromises nothing.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you are a hoot.

Palestine is the poster child of illegal external interference.

What a shame that the Arabs-Moslems occupying the disputed territories are so ineffectual and incompetent that they're wholly unable to manage their affairs.

Hey, maybe If the UN established a dedicated welfare agency for their exclusive abuse and mismanagement, the Arabs-Moslems could find a way to finance an entire Islamic terrorist infrastructure network.

Indeed, the US installed Abbas and his oligarch friends would jump on that.

Indeed, you make all the usual excuses for Islamic terrorist Pal'istanians.

Indeed, "I blame the Great Satan" is but one of the excuses for supporting Islamic terrorism as furthered by the Death Cultists occupying the disputed territories.

 

[Hollie]

Nutandyahoo still banging on about his terrorist propaganda campaign.

Indeed, "I blame the Joooos" is a convenient excuse for 1,400 years of Islamic terrorism.