‘Israel will not live to see another 15 years’ says Iran’s Supreme Leader

[sealybobo]

Iran is so bad, we bomb the shit out of them. Kill their leaders.
China is so bad, the bumbling dumbfuck goes over there and kisses his ass. Now he even wants to sell farm land to china.
China has slave labor, reeducation camps, they hack us and steal our technology. They took over american manufacturing etc.
But china is fine. Iran says bad words, and attacks our bases in retaliation to our aggression.

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will."

According to Darkwind, we need to follow through with this.

 

[Hafar1014]

You guys are funny blaming Obama for Trump's bad decisions. And now Iran is playing Trump. Exactly why Obama didn't fall for it or make any stupid decisions like this. Now you need boots on the ground? Didn't you learn anything from the Iraq war? We are horrible at this.

U.S. intelligence agencies and the International Atomic Energy Agency assessed that Iran was not actively developing an actual nuclear weapon.

Obama was made a fool of by Iran Trump blew them up and brought them to the table. Obama couldnt fight the war on terror ISIS expanded on his watch. He was just incompetent.

 

[task0778]

I will say that America is religious fundamentalist crazies who wish to bring the entire planet under their evil control, and that we will use our religion as justification for any atrocity as long as it furthers Allah's hold over the world?

I do not believe that America is being run by religious fundamentalist crazies who wish to bring the entire planet under their control, which I believe is Iran's stated goal. Nor do I believe the current or past administrations committed atrocities and justified them on any religious beliefs. Such is not the case with Iran though, do you really equate what Iran has done and will do with the actions against Iran? Not that Americans haven't committed atrocities, but not because or religious fervor.

At the bottom of all this, IMHO is the issue of an Iranian nuclear bomb detonated somewhere in Israel or maybe even here in the US. Doesn't have to be a missile, it could be in a truck or ship. Do we ignore that threat until it happens somewhere? How do we trust people who won't allow full and complete inspections of any of their facilities? Lying to an infidel isn't immoral to them, in fact it's expected. So, while I do not like what we're doing, what is the alternative? Eventually Iran develops a nuclear device; should we assume they wouldn't use it after all their vitriol about wiping Israel off the map? And BTW, who do you think they will go after next?

 

[Hafar1014]

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will."

According to Darkwind, we need to follow through with this.

What we need is the death of socialism. Start with the democrat party

 

[sealybobo]

You are the propagating propaganda.

Simply because the media ignored the threat, or sided with the Democrats in allowing them to further develop their nuclear program, does not mean jack.

The threat is real, has been real for nearly 15 years. We can all thank Obama for this threat.

Here is why we know you are full of shit

Donald Trump has a well-documented history of criticizing former President Barack Obama’s handling of Iran, frequently calling him a "weak and ineffective negotiator". He routinely used this rhetoric—and the claim that Obama would use a war with Iran to boost his reelection chances—dating back to video messages and statements posted as early as 2011 and 2012.

• The 2015 Iran Deal: Trump strongly opposed the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) negotiated by the Obama administration, dismissing it as one of the "worst deals ever made".

Guess what Trump is trying to get right now? A deal that's as good as Obama's deal was. Only Obama only gave them $1.7 billion. Trump is going to give them much much more so they can rebuild what he bombed. And this war has already cost you $60 billion easy. Trump getting his 10% cut of course.

Think about what Trump was saying in 2016. He was saying he could negotiate with Iran and Obama could not. Of course Obama did negotiate with them and of course, Trump didn't like the deal we got. Nothing Obama ever did was good enough for him yet here we are Trump is trying to get Obama's deal back and claim victory???

Trump is a weak and ineffective negotiator clearly. Threatening to wipe out their entire civilization is not negotiating.

So you see? Trump 10 years ago was saying something completely different. So I don't know where you got this 15 years bullshit from

 

[Darkwind]

You guys are funny blaming Obama for Trump's bad decisions. And now Iran is playing Trump. Exactly why Obama didn't fall for it or make any stupid decisions like this. Now you need boots on the ground? Didn't you learn anything from the Iraq war? We are horrible at this.

U.S. intelligence agencies and the International Atomic Energy Agency assessed that Iran was not actively developing an actual nuclear weapon.

So, you ARE willfully ignorant.

It was Obama who gave them pallets of cash that should have been held in sanctions until they proved to be a good citizen of the world. Instead, he just freed up their income from terror proxy support and put it into continuing their quest for a nuclear weapon. That is what the cash was purchased for. I know you folk like to claim that the agreement with Iran was working, but the very validity of their having 10 nuclear weapons-grade material only a week from reality is absolute proof that it was not.

The very first thing the Iranians said right after the war started, while sitting at the negotiation table, was,"We have the equivalent of 11 bombs, and it is OUR RIGHT to enrich. They are NOT honest actors, nor are they trustworthy.

The UN also holds a great deal of blame here. They either cowered or, more likely, were complicit with Iran and never enforced the inspections needed to ensure Iran was abiding.

Sorry, but you are willfully ignorant in the name of hatred of Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

I do not believe that America is being run by religious fundamentalist crazies who wish to bring the entire planet under their control, which I believe is Iran's stated goal. Nor do I believe the current or past administrations committed atrocities and justified them on any religious beliefs. Such is not the case with Iran though, do you really equate what Iran has done and will do with the actions against Iran? Not that Americans haven't committed atrocities, but not because or religious fervor.

At the bottom of all this, IMHO is the issue of an Iranian nuclear bomb detonated somewhere in Israel or maybe even here in the US. Doesn't have to be a missile, it could be in a truck or ship. Do we ignore that threat until it happens somewhere? How do we trust people who won't allow full and complete inspections of any of their facilities? Lying to an infidel isn't immoral to them, in fact it's expected. So, while I do not like what we're doing, what is the alternative? Eventually Iran develops a nuclear device; should we assume they wouldn't use it after all their vitriol about wiping Israel off the map? And BTW, who do you think they will go after next?

Is it Iran's stated goal? See, this is why I don't think Americans are any different than their Iranian or North Korean counterparts. You are being censored. Lied to. Propaganda!!! I think I'd like to hear the Iranian's side of it.

They want to bring the entire planet under their control? Who doesn't?

 

[TNHarley]

I do not believe that America is being run by religious fundamentalist crazies who wish to bring the entire planet under their control, which I believe is Iran's stated goal. Nor do I believe the current or past administrations committed atrocities and justified them on any religious beliefs. Such is not the case with Iran though, do you really equate what Iran has done and will do with the actions against Iran? Not that Americans haven't committed atrocities, but not because or religious fervor.

At the bottom of all this, IMHO is the issue of an Iranian nuclear bomb detonated somewhere in Israel or maybe even here in the US. Doesn't have to be a missile, it could be in a truck or ship. Do we ignore that threat until it happens somewhere? How do we trust people who won't allow full and complete inspections of any of their facilities? Lying to an infidel isn't immoral to them, in fact it's expected. So, while I do not like what we're doing, what is the alternative? Eventually Iran develops a nuclear device; should we assume they wouldn't use it after all their vitriol about wiping Israel off the map? And BTW, who do you think they will go after next?

MSN

Tulsi Gabbard Contradicts Trump on Key Claims About Iran War

The U.S. Director of the National Intelligence contradicted one of Trump's key justifications for going to war against Iran.

time.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Didn't Iran just raid a flotilla in international waters that was carrying food and medicine and gang rape some of the unarmed women?

 

[sealybobo]

MSN

Tulsi Gabbard Contradicts Trump on Key Claims About Iran War

The U.S. Director of the National Intelligence contradicted one of Trump's key justifications for going to war against Iran.

time.com

Isn't it funny that we hear Iran said this and Iran said that but they never show us Iran saying anything. They could be totally lying to us for all we know. And based on this administrations pension for lying, and the Bush regime doing it this exact same way, it sort of seems like this is just another lie too. One that I'm not willing to get behind no matter how unpatriotic they say I'm being.

If we are truly free in this country we should not be afraid to speak up. 1st amendment rights. F being patriotic. It's not the Iranian leaders I'm worried about it's our current administration that the entire world needs to worry about.

 

[Mac-7]

And the Democrats are increasingly becoming the Party to let Iran destroy Israel. That is why I am so grateful that Trump is president now, and can only pray that Vance/Rubio beats whatever anti-American leftist the Dems put up.

Iran cannot destroy Israel

They can come close and blow up the world trying to open the door for Satan’s representative, aka the 12th Imam

But what they will get instead is the Messiah returning to save Israel and claim His kingdom

 

[Darkwind]

Here is why we know you are full of shit

Donald Trump has a well-documented history of criticizing former President Barack Obama’s handling of Iran, frequently calling him a "weak and ineffective negotiator". He routinely used this rhetoric—and the claim that Obama would use a war with Iran to boost his reelection chances—dating back to video messages and statements posted as early as 2011 and 2012.

• The 2015 Iran Deal: Trump strongly opposed the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) negotiated by the Obama administration, dismissing it as one of the "worst deals ever made".

Guess what Trump is trying to get right now? A deal that's as good as Obama's deal was. Only Obama only gave them $1.7 billion. Trump is going to give them much much more so they can rebuild what he bombed. And this war has already cost you $60 billion easy. Trump getting his 10% cut of course.

Think about what Trump was saying in 2016. He was saying he could negotiate with Iran and Obama could not. Of course Obama did negotiate with them and of course, Trump didn't like the deal we got. Nothing Obama ever did was good enough for him yet here we are Trump is trying to get Obama's deal back and claim victory???

Trump is a weak and ineffective negotiator clearly. Threatening to wipe out their entire civilization is not negotiating.

So you see? Trump 10 years ago was saying something completely different. So I don't know where you got this 15 years bullshit from

Iran having a nuke is an independent concept from your TDS.

They almost had one, that is a verifiable fact, and by their own admission.

They would not have been anywhere near a nuke if the UN inspectors were doing their job or not in bed with the Mullahs. That too is a fact.

We've seen the outcome of freeing up billions of dollars for terrorism. Just ask the people who died back in '23 when Hamas started their war on civilians. Prior to that attack, Israel had not been in Gaza for over a decade. Hamas, Jizzboallah, and the PA all get their weapons and the money for their weapons. Money that came from the freed-up cash that Obama gave them.

Your apology tour for the UN, Obama, and Iran is proof of your willful ignorance.

Have a nice day.

 

[sealybobo]

Iran having a nuke is an independent concept from your TDS.

They almost had one, that is a verifiable fact, and by their own admission.

They would not have been anywhere near a nuke if the UN inspectors were doing their job or not in bed with the Mullahs. That too is a fact.

We've seen the outcome of freeing up billions of dollars for terrorism. Just ask the people who died back in '23 when Hamas started their war on civilians. Prior to that attack, Israel had not been in Gaza for over a decade. Hamas, Jizzboallah, and the PA all get their weapons and the money for their weapons. Money that came from the freed-up cash that Obama gave them.

Your apology tour for the UN, Obama, and Iran is proof of your willful ignorance.

Have a nice day.

When did Iran almost have a nuclear weapon?

 

[task0778]

MSN

Tulsi Gabbard Contradicts Trump on Key Claims About Iran War

The U.S. Director of the National Intelligence contradicted one of Trump's key justifications for going to war against Iran.

time.com

One wonders what the actual truth is regarding whatever nuclear facilities the Iranians have or had. What was verified and what was based on Israeli intel, if anything. Gabbard does not strike me as a dishonest person, frankly moreso than the president who is sometimes inclined to exaggerate or accept unverified data as truth if it fits his agenda. But to start a war without sufficient proof of need? How are we to know what Trump knew vs what was unverified?

 

[sealybobo]

Iran having a nuke is an independent concept from your TDS.

They almost had one, that is a verifiable fact, and by their own admission.

They would not have been anywhere near a nuke if the UN inspectors were doing their job or not in bed with the Mullahs. That too is a fact.

We've seen the outcome of freeing up billions of dollars for terrorism. Just ask the people who died back in '23 when Hamas started their war on civilians. Prior to that attack, Israel had not been in Gaza for over a decade. Hamas, Jizzboallah, and the PA all get their weapons and the money for their weapons. Money that came from the freed-up cash that Obama gave them.

Your apology tour for the UN, Obama, and Iran is proof of your willful ignorance.

Have a nice day.

How is Trump's deal with Iran going to be any better than Obama's? I oon't think you will like Trump's deal with Iran because it's going to be just like Obama's. Only Trump's deal cost us $100 billion dollars when it's all said and done.

commitments from Iran to never pursue nuclear weapons

Obama already got that from them.

The U.S. would agree to negotiate over lifting sanctions and unfreezing Iranian funds

• Trump has been wavering in recent days between pushing forward with the deal and launching a massive wave of strikes against Iran. As of Saturday evening, he was leaning toward a diplomatic solution.

Actually, you will like Trump's deal even if it's the exact same deal Obama made with them. That's how you are.

 

[Mac-7]

When did Iran almost have a nuclear weapon?

Probably now

 

[Kruska]

You'd have a point had Iran not been saying this for 47 years and neither we nor Israel had invaded nor destroyed their infrastructure.

One doesn't need to invade a country to wreak havoc on it's economy, the USA and Europe have been doing just that for 47 years.

TACO stated that he will annihilate Iran - he is using the same terminology that Arabs and Iranians are using - BIG TALK RHETORIC
That is what Arabs or Muslim countries are known for, since decades.
So TACO is just like an Arab or Muslim, or do you actually believe that TACO would annihilate Iran?

 

[Votto]

I wonder why they have? Could it be because we participated in a coup? Fund their enemies in wars? Shooting down airliners?
Have you ever noticed every threat they have made against us was about retaliation?
Wonder why you dont hear them screaming "death to france" or "death to italy"
Maybe because they didnt get involved in irans business?
What would we be saying if everything was reversed?
"only america can do that!"

Look at what they do to their own people to understand their mentality.

 

[TNHarley]

Look at what they do to their own people to understand their mentality.

If thats the case, what about china? russia? nk? belarus? eritrea?
The fact is, their hostility to us is our own making.
You would feel the same way they do if someone did to us, what we did to them. And continue to do so.

 

[Votto]

This is why a deal can never be made with these people. The regime has to be taken out. There will never be hope of peace in the Middle East as long as these fanatics hold power. They can never be trusted.

Iran’s new supreme leader has declared “Israel will not live to see another 15 years” in a chilling affirmation of the Islamic Republic’s enmity towards the Jewish state.

“Death to Israel” and “Death to America” remain the regime’s slogans, according to the statement from Mojtaba Khamenei aired on Tuesday morning by Iran’s state broadcaster.

The rhetoric echoes the claim a decade by his father Ali Khamenei, the previous Supreme Leader, that Israel would not survive another 25 years.

‘Israel will not live to see another 15 years’ says Iran’s Supreme Leader - The Jewish Chronicle

Threat by Mojtaba Khamenei comes amid hopes of breakthrough in talks between the US and Islamic Republic

www.thejc.com

Iran has zero respect for repercussions for not behaving and have no intention of doing so.

Nothing has changed since the Iranian revolution except for maybe a closer date to apocalypse.