Israel Tortures Palestinian Children; Keeps Them In Outdoor Cages In Winter: Rights Group

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Israel's Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked, explicitly declared stone-throwing to be terrorism, drove the passage of a bill holding stone-throwers liable to up to 20 years in prison.
The law did not specify that it targeted only Palestinian stone-throwers. It didn't have to.

Just one week later, pro-settlement Jews hurled rocks, furniture, and bottles of urine at Israeli soldiers and police at a West Bank settlement, and in response, Benjamin Netanyahu immediately rewarded the Jewish stone-throwers with a pledge to build hundreds of new settlement homes.

What does apartheid mean, in Israeli terms?
Apartheid means fundamentalist clergy spearheading the deepening of segregation, inequality, supremacism, and subjugation.
Apartheid means Likud lawmaker and former Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter calling Sunday for separate, segregated roads and highways for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank.
Apartheid means hundreds of attacks by settlers targeting Palestinian property, livelihoods, and lives, without convictions, charges, or even suspects. Apartheid means uncounted Palestinians jailed without trial, shot dead without trial, shot dead in the back while fleeing and without just cause.
Apartheid means Israeli officials using the army, police, military courts, and draconian administrative detentions, not only to head off terrorism, but to curtail nearly every avenue of non-violent protest available to Palestinians.
read more: It's time to admit it. Israeli policy is what it is: Apartheid - A Special Place in Hell

 

[Dhara]

So, answer my question. Simple enough. A 17 year old "child" who is arrested in the US for committing an act which could potentially seriously injure or kill someone must never be handcuffed. Yes or no?

Bonding children is abuse.

 

[Shusha]

I think plenty of bad stuff goes on with both sides. I just don't ignore Israel's the way you do.

I also see plenty of bad stuff on both sides. I certainly do not ignore Israel's. I rarely have an opportunity to discuss Israel's because I am too busy debunking the lies, fabrications, exaggerations and anti-semitism, such as the bullshit posted on this thread. AND, unlike some, I do not post lies about Palestinians.

 

[Dhara]

I should have said binding a child's hands is abuse.

 

[Dhara]

I think plenty of bad stuff goes on with both sides. I just don't ignore Israel's the way you do.

I also see plenty of bad stuff on both sides. I certainly do not ignore Israel's. I rarely have an opportunity to discuss Israel's because I am too busy debunking the lies, fabrications, exaggerations and anti-semitism, such as the bullshit posted on this thread. AND, unlike some, I do not post lies about Palestinians.

You defend Israel even when it is wrong.

 

[Shusha]

So, answer my question. Simple enough. A 17 year old "child" who is arrested in the US for committing an act which could potentially seriously injure or kill someone must never be handcuffed. Yes or no?

Bonding children is abuse.

Alright then. So, from your point of view, EVERY country which handcuffs someone under the age of 18 tortures children. And it really has nothing to do with Israel, per se.

 

[Shusha]

You defend Israel even when it is wrong.

Please provide example.

 

[Dhara]

You're doing it right now. Every single post you've made has denied the truth that Israeli police and soldiers are mistreating Palestinian children. Let's tie your children up,keep them from going to the bathroom, separate them from their parents, withold water and see how you feel.

 

[Dhara]

Seriously, being hand-tied is torture now? Even our local Mounties, kind and polite as all Canadians are, hand-cuff people when they arrest them. Yes, even the teenagers.

You don't phyysically restrain children. It's abuse.

I suppose beating children, tying them up is funny to you.

 

[Dhara]

So, answer my question. Simple enough. A 17 year old "child" who is arrested in the US for committing an act which could potentially seriously injure or kill someone must never be handcuffed. Yes or no?

Bonding children is abuse.

Alright then. So, from your point of view, EVERY country which handcuffs someone under the age of 18 tortures children. And it really has nothing to do with Israel, per se.

No, I think you excuse Israel.

 

[Dhara]

Geneva Convention.

 

[Shusha]

You're doing it right now. Every single post you've made has denied the truth that Israeli police and soldiers are mistreating Palestinian children. Let's tie your children up,keep them from going to the bathroom, separate them from their parents, withold water and see how you feel.

I have made exactly zero comments on anything except the telling of lies and handcuffing at this point. So your assumptions about me are coloring your perceptions.

I do not happen to think it is wrong to handcuff (or ziptie) people who are arrested for committing dangerous crimes against innocent people. I think it is the safe and appropriate thing to do. It serves to ensure the safety of the LEO's charged with protecting those innocent people. I might make an exception for very, very young children, perhaps under the age of 10. Though, in that case, I would probably be inclined to arrest the parents for teaching their children that attacking innocent people is the appropriate way to solve problems.

 

[Dhara]

On Wednesday 6 January 2016, MPs held a debate on Israel’s military detention and arrest of Palestinian children. The debate, called by Sarah Champion MP, gave a glimpse of the wide array of MP positions on the topic.

Most of the contributions expressed concern over Israel violating the human rights of Palestinian children and the UK government’s failure to hold Israel to account. But a few MPs defended Israel’s violations, suggesting that it is Palestinians who are to blame for the decades long colonial military Occupation under which they are detained. Andy Slaughter MP aptly responded that they “seem to be living in an Alice in Wonderland world”.

Warm words not working

Sarah Champion MP recounted the horrible conditions faced by Palestinian children in Israeli military detention, stating that “93% of children continue to be restrained with plastic ties, many painfully so, and around 80% of children continue to be blindfolded or hooded, a practice that UK and UNICEF reports said should be absolutely prohibited.”
MPs debate Palestinian child prisoners

 

[Dhara]

You're doing it right now. Every single post you've made has denied the truth that Israeli police and soldiers are mistreating Palestinian children. Let's tie your children up,keep them from going to the bathroom, separate them from their parents, withold water and see how you feel.

I have made exactly zero comments on anything except the telling of lies and handcuffing at this point. So your assumptions about me are coloring your perceptions.

I do not happen to think it is wrong to handcuff (or ziptie) people who are arrested for committing dangerous crimes against innocent people. I think it is the safe and appropriate thing to do. It serves to ensure the safety of the LEO's charged with protecting those innocent people. I might make an exception for very, very young children, perhaps under the age of 10. Though, in that case, I would probably be inclined to arrest the parents for teaching their children that attacking innocent people is the appropriate way to solve problems.

I see. Well, handcuffing children and leaving them bruised is abuse. Nice way to justify it

 

[Dhara]

Hurting children is a way to teach them non-violence, LOL.

 

[Dhara]

Israel currently holds around 6,800 Palestinians as political prisoners, among them 470 children. This is the highest number of children held in detention for years, and has increased over 200% since September 2015.

Most of the cases of arrest of children are for stone throwing, a minor action especially considering that when stone throwing does occur, it is against one of the most powerful armies in the world committing violent incursions into towns and villages. The maximum sentence for stone throwing is 20 years in prison. Meanwhile, Israeli soldiers and civilians who commit violence against Palestinians are rarely even arrested, and almost always let off with minimal sentences.

Children are also targeted with the intention of recruiting them to become informants, and the use of physical or psychological violence in the process of arrest and interrogation is a part of that process.

MPs debate Palestinian child prisoners

 

[Dhara]

Palestinian children in the West Bank including East Jerusalem live under occupation. Outside of Jerusalem, this means under Israeli military laws and no matter what the transgression, Palestinians appear in a military court. Israeli settlers, all 550,000 of them living in the same geography have all the benefits and protections of Israel’s legal system, which for children, rivals any state in the world.

What should the international community be doing to actually protect its own legal system, because a systematic war crime has continued for nearly half a century?

Chris Doyle
Not so for Palestinian children. At every stage in the arrest, interrogation, judicial and prison processes, they typically suffer maltreatment. According to Gerard Horton, a lawyer with Military Court Watch, since the latest escalation in violence, “more children seem to be subject to physical abuse.” Night raids of Palestinian villages and refugee camps have gone up as has the violence. According to the latest official Israeli prison service figures, there are 407 Palestinian children in prison – a rise of 138% since September when it was 170. (There are 5936 Palestinians held as security figures). These, as Horton points out, are just the official figures and do not include all those who have rounded up and held for hours or even overnight. These figures are the largest since March 2009 following riots in the aftermath of Operation Cast Lead.

The rest of the process is farcical, culminating in a kangaroo court process. Around 60% of children still are asked to sign documentation even confessions in Hebrew which they nearly always do not speak.

 

[Dhara]

In practice before the military court system, there are no special interrogation procedures for children detained by the Israeli military, nor are there provisions for an attorney or even a family member to be present when a child is questioned. The majority of children report being subjected to ill-treatment and having forced confessions extracted from them during interrogations. Forms of ill-treatment used by the Israeli soldiers during a child’s arrest and interrogation usually include slapping, beating, kicking and violent pushing. Palestinian children are also routinely verbally abused. Despite recommendations by the UN Committee against Torture in May 2009 that the interrogations should be video recorded, no provisions to this effect have yet been enacted. Many Palestinian children even serve time in the same Israeli prisons and detention facilities as adults. Military Order 1644, issued on 29 July 2009, established a separate military court for Palestinian children and ended 42 years of trying children as young as 12 years of age in the same courts as adults. However, the order fails to correct many of the fair trial deficiencies in the military courts relating to children (including insufficient provisions regarding qualifications for the judges, no added protections during interrogations, and discretionary language granting the prosecutor broad authority to suspend protections for children), which indicate that Military Order 1644 will do little to improve the protection of Palestinian children before the Israeli military legal system. While the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a “child” as “every human being below the age of eighteen years”,according to Israeli military order 132, Palestinian children age 16 and older were previously tried and sentenced by Israeli military courts as adults. By comparison, juvenile legislation defines Israeli children as age 18 or younger. What’s more, a Palestinian child’s sentence is decided on the basis of the child’s age at the time of sentencing, and not at the time when the alleged offense was committed. Thus, a child who is accused of committing an offense when he or she is 15 will therefore be punished as an adult if he or she has a birthday while awaiting sentencing. - See more at: Children

 

[Dhara]

Shusha,

Almost all your posting content is pro-Israeli. Let's get real here

 

[Shusha]

Shusha,

Almost all your posting content is pro-Israeli. Let's get real here

Of course it is. Its also almost all pro-Palestinian.