Israel tells the US to Go Fxxx Itself, again.

[Kalam]

It is pretty moronic of Marc39

You're solidly ahead of Marc39 in the "moron" category, Tinkerbell.

 

[Marc39]

Actually you the one who is lost, I have never disagreed with your statement, I know the history and the politics of Israel. For some stupid reason you fail to grasp that Congress can pass all the laws it wants but laws mean nothing in the face of in-action.

You stated that the embassy was moved from Jerusalem



Which year was the US Embassy "relocated".

I have consistently stated that the USA's embassy should be in the capital of Israel.

In response you keep refering to congress, seriously, you are making no point and sound lost. If you really wish to know and understand the situation in Israel you should start by acknowleding you could learn something by listening to what others have added to the discussion.

Few here add anything. You are not one of them.

Thanks, if you read your comment you are stating I am not one of those who adds nothing to the discussion.

It is pretty moronic of Marc39 to write the same thing four times in different ways while completely ignoring the implications of not having the USA embassy in the capital of Israel.

We get that congress passed a law or resolution, big deal, its the actions and implications of those actions that have a negative effect on our foriegn policy.

Still fixating on Jerusalem, eh? Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Case closed.

 

[mdn2000]

It is pretty moronic of Marc39

You're solidly ahead of Marc39 in the "moron" category, Tinkerbell.

Mister Wikipedia speaks, nice cut and paste, a little "Disney" mixed with self-reflection, clever.

 

[mdn2000]

Few here add anything. You are not one of them.

Thanks, if you read your comment you are stating I am not one of those who adds nothing to the discussion.

It is pretty moronic of Marc39 to write the same thing four times in different ways while completely ignoring the implications of not having the USA embassy in the capital of Israel.

We get that congress passed a law or resolution, big deal, its the actions and implications of those actions that have a negative effect on our foriegn policy.

Still fixating on Jerusalem, eh? Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Case closed.

If you had half a brain you would realize no one is more pro-israel than I, I never said Jerusalem is not the capital, not once, yet you respond as an idiot, maybe you should use some quotations to show what the hell you speak of.

Mac60 does tha cause of Israel no good, basically you make yourself look stupid by trying to have the last word even when supporters provide fact.

For some moronic reason Mac69 cannot grasp the idea that Tel Aviv is where the USA's embassy is and has always been. Mac69 even stated that the embassy was in Jerusalem, Israel does not need "freinds or allies" that do not know simple history.

Maybe as Mac69 cuts and pastes he will come across someone elses thoughts, research, or common sense and have a epiphany, until than we got one more supporter that is nothing more than a "jock support".

Only an idiot argues with fact, fact being as i have to repeat over and over, the USA's embassy is and always has been in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem as Mac69 believes.

 

[CMike]

Actually you the one who is lost, I have never disagreed with your statement, I know the history and the politics of Israel. For some stupid reason you fail to grasp that Congress can pass all the laws it wants but laws mean nothing in the face of in-action.

You stated that the embassy was moved from Jerusalem



Which year was the US Embassy "relocated".

I have consistently stated that the USA's embassy should be in the capital of Israel.

In response you keep refering to congress, seriously, you are making no point and sound lost. If you really wish to know and understand the situation in Israel you should start by acknowleding you could learn something by listening to what others have added to the discussion.

Few here add anything. You are not one of them.

Thanks, if you read your comment you are stating I am not one of those who adds nothing to the discussion.

It is pretty moronic of Marc39 to write the same thing four times in different ways while completely ignoring the implications of not having the USA embassy in the capital of Israel.

We get that congress passed a law or resolution, big deal, its the actions and implications of those actions that have a negative effect on our foriegn policy.

The implication is that american presidents have been pussies for not moving it so they don't antagonize the arabs.

However, Jerusalem is the US recognized capital of Israel.

The Jerusalem Embassy Relocation Act

The Act was adopted on October 23, 1995, by both the Senate (93-5) and the House (374-37).


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Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the "Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995."

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress makes the following findings:

(1)Each sovereign nation, under international law and custom, may designate its own capital.

(2)Since 1950, the city of Jerusalem has been the capital of the State of Israel.

(3)The city of Jerusalem is the seat of Israel's President, Parliament, and Supreme Court, and the site of numerous government ministries and social and cultural institutions.
(4)The city of Jerusalem is the spiritual center of Judaism, and is also considered a holy city by the members of other religious faiths.

(5)From 1948-1967, Jerusalem was a divided city and Israeli citizens of all faiths as well as Jewish citizens of all states were denied access to holy sites in the area controlled by Jordan.

(6)In 1967, the city of Jerusalem was reunited during the conflict known as the Six Day War.

(7)Since 1967, Jerusalem has been a united city administered by Israel,and persons of all religious faiths have been guaranteed full access to holy sites within the city.

(8)This year marks the 28th consecutive year that Jerusalem has been administered as a unified city in which the rights of all faiths have been respected and protected.

(9)In 1990, the Congress unanimously adopted Senate Concurrent Resolution 106, which declares that the Congress "strongly believes that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic and religious group are protected".

(10)In 1992, the United States Senate and House of Representatives unanimously adopted Senate Concurrent Resolution 113 of the One Hundred Second Congress to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem, and reaffirming congressional sentiment that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city.
(11)The September 13, 1993, Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements lays out a timetable for the resolution of "final status" issues, including Jerusalem.

(12)The Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area was signed May 4,1994, beginning the five-year transitional period laid out in the Declaration of Principles.

(13)In March of 1995, 93 members of the United States Senate signed a letter to Secretary of State Warren Christopher encouraging "planning to begin now" for relocation of the United States Embassy to the city of Jerusalem.

(14)In June of 1993, 257 members of the United States House of Representatives signed a letter to the Secretary of State Warren Christopher stating that the relocation of the United States Embassy to Jerusalem "should take place no later than....1999".

(15)The United States maintains its embassy in the functioning capital of every country exceptin the case of our democratic friend and strategic ally, the State of Israel.

(16)The United States conducts official meetings and other business in the city of Jerusalem in de facto recognition of its status as the capital of Israel.

(17)In 1996, the State of Israel will celebrate the 3,000th anniversary of the Jewish presence in Jerusalem since King David's entry.

SEC. 3. TIMETABLE.

(a)Statement of the Policy of the United States.—

(1)Jerusalem should remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic and religious group are protected;

(2)Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel; and

(3)the United States Embassy in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May 31, 1999.
(b)Opening Determination.—Not more than 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the Department of State for fiscal year 1999 for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" may be obligated until the Secretary of State determines and reports to Congress that the United States Embassy in Jerusalem has officially opened.

SEC. 4. FISCAL YEARS 1996 AND 1997 FUNDING.

(a)Fiscal Year 1996.--Of the funds authorized to be appropriated for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" for the Department of State in fiscal year 1996, not less than $25,000,000 should be made available until expended only for construction and other costs associated with the establishment of the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

(b)Fiscal Year 1997.—Of the funds authorized to be appropriated for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" for the Department of State in fiscal year 1997, not less than $75,000,000 should be made available until expended only for construction and other costs associated with the establishment of the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

SEC. 5. REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION.

Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate detailing the Department of State's plan to implement this Act. Such report shall include—

(1)estimated dates of completion for each phase of the establishment of the United States Embassy, including site identification, land acquisition, architectural, engineering and construction surveys, site preparation, and construction; and

(2)an estimate of the funding necessary to implement this Act, including all costs associated with establishing the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

SEC. 6. SEMI-ANNUAL REPORTS.

At the time of the submission of the President's fiscal year 1997 budget request, and every six months thereafter, the Secretary of State shall report to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate on the progress made toward opening the United States Embassy in Jerusalem.

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

SEC. 8. DEFINITION.

As used in this Act, the term "United States Embassy" means the offices of the United States diplomatic mission and the residence of the United States chief of mission.

 

[al Haq]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

 

[The Rabbi]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Yes.
Please list other countries whose declared capital cities are not recognized by the international community. Very quickly we see the incredible double standard Israel is held to.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Yes.
Please list other countries whose declared capital cities are not recognized by the international community. Very quickly we see the incredible double standard Israel is held to.

Please list other countries whose capital cities are not within defined borders.

 

[al Haq]

You buried the lead.



Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Yes.
Please list other countries whose declared capital cities are not recognized by the international community. Very quickly we see the incredible double standard Israel is held to.

No double standard. It's not Israel's capital.

 

[CMike]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Incorrect. US president haven't had the balls to move the embassy and upset the arabs, which is very unfortunate, however, as the declaration states jerusalem is recognized by the US as Israel's capital.

Section 3 b deals with the actual move of the embassy.

It doesn't say that the president may suspend any other part of it.

 

[Marc39]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Jerusalem is recognized by the US as the capital of Israel. Most importantly, history recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Jerusalem is mentioned 700 times in the Old Testament.
Jerusalem is mentioned zero times in the Quran.

Leave the Jews alone and face Mecca, Islamo.

 

[CMike]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlIJOAZ1pak]YouTube - Ofra Haza Yerushalaim Shel Zahav (Jerusalem of Gold) subbed[/ame]

 

[CMike]

Netanyau should have reminded biden and hillary what their boss said.

Obama tells AIPAC Jerusalem must remain capital of Israel. - Lynn Sweet

Obama "And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided"

Mike, i'm afraid Obama said that during the run for president. apparently, now that the jews have voted for him, the jews can go to hell.

He is so two-faced.

 

[al Haq]

Jerusalem is recognized by the US as the capital of Israel.

The U.S. does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. The Jerusalem Embassy Relocation Act mentioned in this thread remains suspended under presidential waiver. Official U.S. policy clearly states that Jerusalem's final status must be resolved through negotiations.

Most importantly, history recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Jerusalem is mentioned 700 times in the Old Testament.
Jerusalem is mentioned zero times in the Quran.

Leave the Jews alone and face Mecca, Islamo.

Irrelevant. Jerusalem is not inside Israel's internationally-recognized borders, and Israel has no legal right to claim the city as part of its territory. You might as well claim the moon is your capital.

 

[al Haq]

You buried the lead.

Jerusalem Embassy Act

...

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

...

Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Incorrect. US president haven't had the balls to move the embassy and upset the arabs, which is very unfortunate, however, as the declaration states jerusalem is recognized by the US as Israel's capital.

Section 3 b deals with the actual move of the embassy.

It doesn't say that the president may suspend any other part of it.

According to the U.S. Constitution, only the President has the authority to recognize foreign sovereignty over territory.

Certainly Congress has adopted several resolutions calling for U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. However, they have no binding effect on official foreign policy - they are essentially recommendations to the President.

Right after Congress passed this particular motion in 1995, the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel advised the White House and Congress that the provisions of the bill invade exclusive presidential authority over foreign affairs, and are thus unconstitutional.

And it remains suspended under Presidential waiver.

 

[Winston Smith]

What about that long border with Jordan?

Barak's final offer stipulated that "the palestinian border would run along the river jordan".

The Allenby Bridge was never mentioned specifically, mainly because the, at least not officially. The whole Summit revolved around 3 main axes: right of return, jerusalem, and the west bank territories. arafat refused barak's offer before the details could be hashed out.

Unless you can post something to the contrary, the Jordan Valley was to be under Israeli control. Israel was to control imports, exports, and travel in the Palestinian buntastan.

I don't have to post anything. you're the one making accusations, the burden of proof is on you. it's all in Indyk's book. all you have to do is read it (which i'm sure you won't).

 

[P F Tinmore]

Barak's final offer stipulated that "the palestinian border would run along the river jordan".

The Allenby Bridge was never mentioned specifically, mainly because the, at least not officially. The whole Summit revolved around 3 main axes: right of return, jerusalem, and the west bank territories. arafat refused barak's offer before the details could be hashed out.

Unless you can post something to the contrary, the Jordan Valley was to be under Israeli control. Israel was to control imports, exports, and travel in the Palestinian buntastan.

I don't have to post anything. you're the one making accusations, the burden of proof is on you. it's all in Indyk's book. all you have to do is read it (which i'm sure you won't).

I don't care how much some people will bend the truth. Israel is NOT going the let the Palestinians control their own border period. If you know anything about Israel you will agree with me.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You buried the lead.



Every U.S. President since this bill was passed - from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barak Obama - has chosen to exercise the authority of the presidential waiver, repeating that authority every six months.

So Jerusalem is in fact not recognized by the U.S. as the capital of Israel.

No countries have their embassies in Jerusalem - the few that did for a short time have moved them back to Tel Aviv.

Incorrect. US president haven't had the balls to move the embassy and upset the arabs, which is very unfortunate, however, as the declaration states jerusalem is recognized by the US as Israel's capital.

Section 3 b deals with the actual move of the embassy.

It doesn't say that the president may suspend any other part of it.

According to the U.S. Constitution, only the President has the authority to recognize foreign sovereignty over territory.

Certainly Congress has adopted several resolutions calling for U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. However, they have no binding effect on official foreign policy - they are essentially recommendations to the President.

Right after Congress passed this particular motion in 1995, the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel advised the White House and Congress that the provisions of the bill invade exclusive presidential authority over foreign affairs, and are thus unconstitutional.

And it remains suspended under Presidential waiver.

You are mistaken. The relocation act remains valid law which is why Clinton, Bush, and now Obama must invoke the waiver clause every six months in order to prevent the State Department's funding for all US embassies from being reduced by 50% because of the delay in moving the embassy to Jerusalem. The act sought to force the President to move the embassy to Jerusalem by reducing the funding for all US embassies by 50% if it was not done by May 31, 1999 unless the President invoked national security concerns as the reason for delaying the move, so every six month, Presidents Clinton Bush and Obama have claimed national security interests as the reason for the delay. Furthermore, both the State Department and the CIA factbook, both under WH control, name Jerusalem as he capital of Israel.

So by its semi annual invocation of national security interests as the reason for delaying the move of the embassy to Jerusalem, the WH acknowledges the validity of the relocation act, and the act leaves no doubt that Congress considers an undivided Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, and the fact that the administration allows the State Department and the CIA to list Jerusalem as the capital of Israel means the WH tacitly recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel even as it demurs from moving the embassy to Jerusalem for national security (or other) reasons.

 

[Winston Smith]

Unless you can post something to the contrary, the Jordan Valley was to be under Israeli control. Israel was to control imports, exports, and travel in the Palestinian buntastan.

I don't have to post anything. you're the one making accusations, the burden of proof is on you. it's all in Indyk's book. all you have to do is read it (which i'm sure you won't).

I don't care how much some people will bend the truth. Israel is NOT going the let the Palestinians control their own border period. If you know anything about Israel you will agree with me.

First, I DEFINITELY know more about israel than you. Second what you've just said amounts to: i don't care how many people who have actually been involved in the negotiations tell me israel was willing to give the palestinians what they want. the are all liars. only I know the truth. talk to hand

 

[al Haq]

You are mistaken. The relocation act remains valid law which is why Clinton, Bush, and now Obama must invoke the waiver clause every six months in order to prevent the State Department's funding for all US embassies from being reduced by 50% because of the delay in moving the embassy to Jerusalem. The act sought to force the President to move the embassy to Jerusalem by reducing the funding for all US embassies by 50% if it was not done by May 31, 1999 unless the President invoked national security concerns as the reason for delaying the move, so every six month, Presidents Clinton Bush and Obama have claimed national security interests as the reason for the delay. Furthermore, both the State Department and the CIA factbook, both under WH control, name Jerusalem as he capital of Israel.

So by its semi annual invocation of national security interests as the reason for delaying the move of the embassy to Jerusalem, the WH acknowledges the validity of the relocation act, and the act leaves no doubt that Congress considers an undivided Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, and the fact that the administration allows the State Department and the CIA to list Jerusalem as the capital of Israel means the WH tacitly recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel even as it demurs from moving the embassy to Jerusalem for national security (or other) reasons.

Still not a part of official U.S. foreign policy. That's why the same thing was re-proposed just last year - this time without the security waiver - in an attempt to force it through:

H.R. 3412: Jerusalem Embassy and Recognition Act of 2009
Read The Bill: H.R. 3412 - GovTrack.us

No vote on it yet.

Official U.S. policy remains the same as it has been since 1967: Jerusalem is occupied territory, and its status is yet to be determined through negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians.