Israel strikes Iran, against Trump's wishes

Just a quick question. If Iran can't even honor a ceasefire agreement, how can anybody think that Trump can get them to negotiate to end the war?

You are seeing the difference between giving them every opportunity and making them wish they had taken that opportunity when they had the chance.
 
You are seeing the difference between giving them every opportunity and making them wish they had taken that opportunity when they had the chance.


So in other words it's a is the glass half empty or half full kind of thing?
 
That's one way to put it.

It certainly shows us who is for and against the U.S. efforts while our troops are over there and literally in harm's way.



So you're saying that Trump never actually believed that he could get Iran to negotiate and that he was setting them up because he KNEW that they couldn't?
 
I am very upset that Trump promised no more wars and the first thing he does is start one with that idiot Netanyahu.

He shouldn't have done it.... he was guided by the ....by the ...nose by that psychopath .... who made Trump and Americans fight his wars!

Makes me sick! :mad-61:
Iran is the modern day Nazi Germany .. you don't want the world having an Iran with Nukes ..

Arguments for the Label (Fascist & Islamofascist)
  • Totalitarian Control: Proponents of the term, including notable figures like the late Christopher Hitchens, argue that the Iranian regime employs totalitarian mechanisms, mass mobilization, and paramilitary enforcement (such as the Basij) to absorb the individual into the state under strict religious orthodoxy.
  • Shared Ideological Traits: Scholars and analysts point to shared traits between theocratic Iran and historical fascism, including aggressive anti-Semitism, rejection of classical liberalism, extreme militarism, and the subjugation of society to a singular, overarching ideology.
 
So you're saying that Trump never actually believed that he could get Iran to negotiate and that he was setting them up because he KNEW that they couldn't?
Trump knows politically that he has to give Iran the opportunity.

Even if he knows on some level that their islamofascist brainwashing will never let them take it.
 
Trump knows politically that he has to give Iran the opportunity.

Even if he knows on some level that their islamofascist brainwashing will never let them take it.



Sounds like 4D chess to me and that I underestimated him again then.
 
Sounds like 4D chess to me and that I underestimated him again then.

I wish I could be one of his advisors because I don't think it has to be 4D chess at this point.

This isn't even a hostage negotiation level of a challenge.
 
I wish I could be one of his advisors because I don't think it has to be 4D chess at this point.

This isn't even a hostage negotiation level of a challenge.



I just meant that it sounds like Trump has always been several moves ahead of everybody else.
 
It's also exactly why I've been losing respect for Trump. He's been turning into such a wuss. After all, what happened to this guy?


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Marc Zell: Trump is outmaneuvering Iran, not stopping Netanyahu.
Marc Zell, Chairman of Republicans Overseas Israel, rejects reports that Trump ordered Netanyahu not to retaliate for the latest Iranian missile launches.
Israel National News
Published: Jun 8, 2026, 1:11 AM (GMT+3)

Missile from Yemen intercepted.
IAF strikes regime targets in Iran.
IDF strikes approximately 15 targets in Iran, including an airport and a drone warehouse. The IRGC confirms the strike. Concurrently, a missile launched from Yemen toward central Israel is intercepted.
Israel National News
Jun 8, 2026, 6:16 AM
 

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