israel started the six day war

[fanger]

“In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”
Begin Just War in Religion and Politics

 

[Hollie]

“In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”
Begin Just War in Religion and Politics

Israel had earlier stated that any closing of the Strait of Tiran would be considered an act of war.

So, yet another Arab-Islamist provocation and yet another humiliating defeat. I suppose the prayer leader at your madrassah still holds a grudge. You should both have a falafel and a group cry.



Arab-Israeli War of 1967

Arab-Israeli War of 1967
On the morning of June 5, 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egyptian forces in response to Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran. By June 11, the conflict had come to include Jordan and Syria. As a result of this conflict, Israel gained control over the Sinai peninsula, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. Israeli claims on these territories, and the question of the Palestinians stranded there, posed a long term challenge to Middle East diplomacy.

 

[fanger]

In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it."

On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. "The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory."

On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin's predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma'ariv as follows: "We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility."

In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: "There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting."

In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel's General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: "The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war."

In a radio debate Peled also said: "Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel." He added that "Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war."

In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: "There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon - as the memoirs of President Johnson proved - believed in this danger."

On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: "All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our 'defence' against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel's existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army. . . .
The Lies About the 1967 War Are Still More Powerful Than the Truth

have some hummus with your humble pie

 

[Hollie]

In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it."

On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. "The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory."

On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin's predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma'ariv as follows: "We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility."

In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: "There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting."

In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel's General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: "The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war."

In a radio debate Peled also said: "Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel." He added that "Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war."

In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: "There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon - as the memoirs of President Johnson proved - believed in this danger."

On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: "All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our 'defence' against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel's existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army. . . .
The Lies About the 1967 War Are Still More Powerful Than the Truth

have some hummus with your humble pie

Try a verifiable source as opposed to someone’s personal blog.

Now, about that falafel.

 

[teddyearp]

Hey, falafel is good stuff!

But seriously. Where does a thread like this, the rehashing of the Liberty, and all the other same old rehashing of bad deeds in history by both sides get us?

No closer to a peaceful solution. Which is exactly what most pro-palestinians want, right fanger?
You do not want a peaceful solution, just the destruction of the Jews and Israel. Well, I guess you're OK with the Jews in Siberia though hehe.

 

[fanger]

Hey, falafel is good stuff!

But seriously. Where does a thread like this, the rehashing of the Liberty, and all the other same old rehashing of bad deeds in history by both sides get us?

No closer to a peaceful solution. Which is exactly what most pro-palestinians want, right fanger?
You do not want a peaceful solution, just the destruction of the Jews and Israel. Well, I guess you're OK with the Jews in Siberia though hehe.

most pro-palestinians want equal rights and justice

 

[teddyearp]

Translation: the total destruction of the state of Israel.

 

[Roudy]

Analysis Israel Deceived the World in 1967,
Israel pretended to be the victim during the Six-Day War, and succeeded in deceiving the world.


Dayan wrote in his memoirs of his deliberations on June 4 with the former IDF chiefs of Staff Yigael Yadin and Zvi Tsur, along with Military Intelligence head Aharon Yariv, as to which lie to choose: Big or small, active or passive.

Defense Minister Moshe Dayan and Prime Minister Golda Meir in July 1969. AFP
A big lie meant a concocted scenario in which the Egyptians would be the ones who fired the first shot, opened with an aerial and ground attack “in which we returned fire, and that is how the war began,” wrote Dayan. He opposed that plan, because “every lie will be found out in the end and could have serious consequences.” This fiction could “waste the moral and just setting of our actions,”

read more: Israel deceived the world in 1967, and paid the price for it in 1973

the truth is there

Leftie fake history.

 

[Roudy]

egypt closed the canal to Israel
egypt moved it's army to the border with Israel

>>
THE COLD WAR’S LONGEST COVER-UP:
HOW AND WHY THE USSR INSTIGATED THE 1967 WAR
By Isabella Ginor

The Soviet warning to Egypt about supposed Israeli troop concentrations on the Syrian border in May 1967 has long been considered a blunder that precipitated a war which the USSR neither desired nor expected. New evidence from Soviet and other Warsaw Pact documents, as well as memoirs of contemporary actors, contradicts this accepted theory. The author demonstrates that this warning was deliberate disinformation, part of a plan approved at the highest level of Soviet leadership to elicit Egyptian action that would provoke an Israeli strike. Soviet military intervention against the “aggressor” was intended to follow and was prepared well in advance.<<

Nobody ever mentions how deeply in bed Arafat and the Soviets were.