Israel Seizes Solar Panels Donated to Palestinians, Smashes Electronics

[Eloy]

The Dutch government has lodged a formal protest with Israel after it was revealed that Israeli forces raided the Palestinian village of Jubbet al-Dhib, in southern Bethlehem, and seized scores of solar panels they had donated to try to provide electricity to the villagers.


The site of the demolished solar farm
The overall project was estimated to cost about $400,000, including panels, a diesel micro-generator, and assorted electronics. The panels are estimated to be worth $40,000 alone, and the Netherlands is demanding that Israel return them.

Even if they got the panels back, however, the project is effectively dead, with the Israeli forces that removed the panels also smashing up all the electronics while they were there, to make sure they could never be used again. Israeli officials insist this was appropriate, and that no one had permission to put solar panels in the village in the first place, meaning it gave them implicit permission to destroy the electronics.
Israel Seizes Solar Panels Donated to Palestinians, Smashes Electronics

they dont want palestinians to have electricity
Israeli settlements in the same area are attached to the national security grid, though Israel did not allow the Palestinians such a connection, this means that remote villages have essentially no electricity, with single buildings here or there squeezing a couple hours a day out of diesel generators. The solar program would’ve resolved this long-standing problem, which apparently didn’t sit well with Israel’s Defense Ministry, which rules the occupied West Bank and seemingly goes out of its way to keep the occupied population struggling.

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

 

[fanger]

Nothing. It is not their land.

By treaty, Israel has control over that land. So you don't think this obligates Israel in any way, but you think Israel should refrain from interference with building projections.

By Treaty with whom?

 

[Shusha]

Nothing. It is not their land.

By treaty, Israel has control over that land. So you don't think this obligates Israel in any way, but you think Israel should refrain from interference with building projections.

By Treaty with whom?

Between Israel and "Palestine".

 

[Roudy]

This thread is a big nothing burger. Palestinians decided to slap on some free solar panels without getting permits or observing proper installation specifications. But because they're Palestinians they shouldn't be held to the same standards, laws, and rules as people all over the world are.

 

[Shusha]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh boy. Another one chimes in with bullshit Israeli talking point.

What talking point. Like you, I too can take a side. You want the Jews to die, I just want the Palestinians to leave. Forever.

You ignore real history and regurgitate bullshit Israeli talking points.

Do you have proof for your claim?

Of course not.

In fact, I don't.

Proof? You have a forum with literally hundreds of threads offering you proof and you are so brain dead as to think that I'll believe you'll accept anything as proof?

The Palestinians are parasites who have been offered good deals for peace and chose to ignore them. They can go **** themselves, and their supporters can go **** themselves.

In fact, I don't.

Indeed, then you continue to spout Israeli bullshit.

Indeed, you just spout bullshit.

 

[fanger]

Nothing. It is not their land.

By treaty, Israel has control over that land. So you don't think this obligates Israel in any way, but you think Israel should refrain from interference with building projections.

By Treaty with whom?

Between Israel and "Palestine".

Who signed on behalf of Palestine?

 

[montelatici]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

I wasn't aware that the occupied territories had been annexed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nothing. It is not their land.

By treaty, Israel has control over that land. So you don't think this obligates Israel in any way, but you think Israel should refrain from interference with building projections.

By Treaty with whom?

Between Israel and "Palestine".

Read your rules of belligerent occupation. That treaty is invalid.

 

[fanger]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

The Nation of "israel" has not only been building on others territory, but more to the point destroying

 

[Shusha]

This thread is a big nothing burger. Palestinians decided to slap on some free solar panels without getting permits or observing proper installation specifications. But because they're Palestinians they shouldn't be held to the same standards, laws, and rules as people all over the world are.

We agree on that point.

But what do you think Israel should be doing with these 242 small villages? Do you think Israel has a moral obligation to ensure these Palestinian citizens have clean water, electricity, sewage and garbage removal?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nothing. It is not their land.

By treaty, Israel has control over that land. So you don't think this obligates Israel in any way, but you think Israel should refrain from interference with building projections.

By Treaty with whom?

Between Israel and "Palestine".

Who signed on behalf of Palestine?

An appointed government.

 

[fanger]

This thread is a big nothing burger. Palestinians decided to slap on some free solar panels without getting permits or observing proper installation specifications. But because they're Palestinians they shouldn't be held to the same standards, laws, and rules as people all over the world are.

We agree on that point.

But what do you think Israel should be doing with these 242 small villages? Do you think Israel has a moral obligation to ensure these Palestinian citizens have clean water, electricity, sewage and garbage removal?

Do you think the occupying force,Israel, has a moral obligation not to destroy improvements

 

[Darkwind]

What talking point. Like you, I too can take a side. You want the Jews to die, I just want the Palestinians to leave. Forever.

You ignore real history and regurgitate bullshit Israeli talking points.

Do you have proof for your claim?

Of course not.

In fact, I don't.

Proof? You have a forum with literally hundreds of threads offering you proof and you are so brain dead as to think that I'll believe you'll accept anything as proof?

The Palestinians are parasites who have been offered good deals for peace and chose to ignore them. They can go **** themselves, and their supporters can go **** themselves.

In fact, I don't.

Indeed, then you continue to spout Israeli bullshit.

Indeed, you just spout bullshit.

Wouldn't be a problem if the school was not in Israel.

I'm sure they could set up a 'demolition' free school somewhere in Lebanon.

 

[Eloy]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

The Netherlands does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Sumeria.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You ignore real history and regurgitate bullshit Israeli talking points.

Do you have proof for your claim?

Of course not.

In fact, I don't.

Proof? You have a forum with literally hundreds of threads offering you proof and you are so brain dead as to think that I'll believe you'll accept anything as proof?

The Palestinians are parasites who have been offered good deals for peace and chose to ignore them. They can go **** themselves, and their supporters can go **** themselves.

In fact, I don't.

Indeed, then you continue to spout Israeli bullshit.

Indeed, you just spout bullshit.

Wouldn't be a problem if the school was not in Israel.

I'm sure they could set up a 'demolition' free school somewhere in Lebanon.

Oh boy, more stupid Israeli talking points.

Is that all you have?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

The Netherlands does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Sumeria.

I visited Anne Frank's House in the Netherlands. It's a beautiful and breathtaking country.

 

[Shusha]

Do you think the occupying force,Israel, has a moral obligation not to destroy improvements

I do. I believe I stated that on my first post on this thread.

 

[Darkwind]

In fact, I don't.

Proof? You have a forum with literally hundreds of threads offering you proof and you are so brain dead as to think that I'll believe you'll accept anything as proof?

The Palestinians are parasites who have been offered good deals for peace and chose to ignore them. They can go **** themselves, and their supporters can go **** themselves.

In fact, I don't.

Indeed, then you continue to spout Israeli bullshit.

Indeed, you just spout bullshit.

Wouldn't be a problem if the school was not in Israel.

I'm sure they could set up a 'demolition' free school somewhere in Lebanon.

Oh boy, more stupid Israeli talking points.

Is that all you have?

Taking points from Israel? Maybe you can point out where Israel has promoted what I just said. Though, they should do just that.

Israel would do well to pay part of the cost of relocation. Say, 20 percent? Seems to be a reasonable trade to get rid of the parasites.

 

[Shusha]

It is to be hoped that the Dutch government will bring this case of theft and vandalism to the European Parliament.

Nations don't have a right to build on other nation's sovereign territory. So, the Dutch could not have been stolen from or vandalized. The Dutch government was wrong to interfere on another nation's territory without the host nation's permission.

The Netherlands does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Sumeria.

There is a treaty which gives Israel control over that land.