Israel Rescues Another Hostage

[Lisa558]

DEI is part of the Left's hatred for Israel. Ludicrously, they see all Israelis -- and therefore Jews -- as white. Gazans are brown.

So, the white people are automatically evil, and the brown people are oppressed. Yes, they really do "think" that simplistically.

That, and the almost genetic hatred for Jews built into Leftist ideology.

And I am a Constitution-supporting conservative.

The strange thing is that thr Palestinians and the Israelis are the pretty much the same color - sort of what we used to call olive-toned. I just think the left consider the more successful people (who would be the Jews) to be white, and less successful people (who would be the Muslims) brownish.

 

[daveman]

Yup. I have no clue if you’re Jewish - or just a decent gentile! - but I can tell you that as a Jew, I am getting the leftist hate from both ends: because I’m a ******, and because I’m a Jew.

Raised indifferently Southern Baptist. I consider myself a non-denominational Christian now.

I stand with Israel and her fight for survival.

Can’t even wear my Jewish Star in public for fear of getting assaulted.

And that's a damn shame. Too few Americans believe in what America stands for -- or at least, used to stand for. They're busy trying to burn the whole thing to the ground.

 

[daveman]

The strange thing is that thr Palestinians and the Israelis are the pretty much the same color - sort of what we used to call olive-toned. I just think the left consider the more successful people (who would be the Jews) to be white, and less successful people (who would be the Muslims) brownish.

That is it exactly. The Left has always been patronizing towards non-whites. "Those poor black people, they're simply not good enough and smart enough to succeed on their own without our [white] help!"

Israelis are good enough and smart enough to succeed, so they're automatically white.

It must be horrible to go through life so utterly unable to think.

 

[Lisa558]

That is it exactly. The Left has always been patronizing towards non-whites. "Those poor black people, they're simply not good enough and smart enough to succeed on their own without our [white] help!"

Israelis are good enough and smart enough to succeed, so they're automatically white.

It must be horrible to go through life so utterly unable to think.

The Left don’t even think that blacks are smart enough to get an ID card.

 

[daveman]

The Left don’t even think that blacks are smart enough to get an ID card.

Indeed. Have you seen this video?

Ami Horowitz: Do Voter ID Laws Suppress the Black Vote?​

The white liberals say exactly what you'd expect. The black people are all like "WTF?"

 

[Matted Joybeard]

Every citizen (Jewish and Arab) of the Province of Gaza would have the same rights under the law. Citizens of the Province of Gaza would be distinct from citizens of Israel (dual citizenship permitted). Israel ensures and manages infrastructure, health care, education, internal and external security. Every citizen votes and has a say in the government of the Province of Gaza (within parameters of security as set by Israel). Gaza gets prosperity. Israel gets peace. In 50 years, the citizens of Gaza decide (by referendum) whether they would prefer to be fully incorporated into Israel or whether they would prefer independence.

This really isn't saying anything about particular rights and reads like a more literal occupation which Palestinians continue to rebel against. Apart from Gazan's hangups with internationally recognized Israel proper, is there any evidence that they wish to be Israeli citizens?

 

[toomuchtime_]

This really isn't saying anything about particular rights and reads like a more literal occupation which Palestinians continue to rebel against. Apart from Gazan's hangups with internationally recognized Israel proper, is there any evidence that they wish to be Israeli citizens?

No, their goal is to destroy Israel, and as long as that remains the core value around which Palestinian culture is organized, Israel will have to maintain security control over the Palestinians in the territories.

 

[Shusha]

This really isn't saying anything about particular rights

The citizens of the Province of Gaza would have all the rights that are normative of citizens in other countries and subject to their own wishes in some sort of governmental system. I don't know what else you could ask for here.

... and reads like a more literal occupation which Palestinians continue to rebel against.
Apart from Gazan's hangups with internationally recognized Israel proper, is there any evidence that they wish to be Israeli citizens?

The evidence that they want to be citizens of Israel would be the referendum. They will have all the choice. That is the point of a referendum. They get to CHOOSE between becoming part of Israel or becoming an independent, sovereign State.

 

[Slyhunter]

The citizens of the Province of Gaza would have all the rights that are normative of citizens in other countries and subject to their own wishes in some sort of governmental system. I don't know what else you could ask for here.

The evidence that they want to be citizens of Israel would be the referendum. They will have all the choice. That is the point of a referendum. They get to CHOOSE between becoming part of Israel or becoming an independent, sovereign State.

They want to be citizens of Israel so they can use their Democracy to remove the Zionist state.

 

[Shusha]

They want to be citizens of Israel so they can use their Democracy to remove the Zionist state.

Sure. It is a risk. And if, in 50 years, their goal remains to destroy Israel rather than to continue prosperity, they get to wait a little longer for the referendum.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Slyhunter]

Sure. It is a risk. And if, in 50 years, their goal remains to destroy Israel rather than to continue prosperity, they get to wait a little longer for the referendum.

They want to do it everywhere they go. I got fired from my job for stating the below on a news site on my personal computer at home.

Peaceful Muslims want the same thing that extreme Muslims want, a worldwide Caliphate. The only difference is they use peaceful means to do so. They immigrate to your country, breed like Cockroaches, then use your Democracy to vote for Muslim rule.

They don't want anyone to know.

 

[Lisa558]

No, their goal is to destroy Israel, and as long as that remains the core value around which Palestinian culture is organized, Israel will have to maintain security control over the Palestinians in the territories.

Yes, and it could well take two generations. The current young generation of Islamic terrorists and their supportive and relatives - now in their 20s and 30s - will have had to have died off, and those not yet born will be educated in Israel-controlled schools. They in turn will grow up, and THEIR children will be similarly educated. By then, the Jew-hate the earlier generations have been brought up with will have died off, and the GAZANS born in 2030 will be grateful Israeli citizens in 2060, living good lives.

I regret I won’t live long enough to see the final result, but I look forward to seeing the progress. But first - ALL HAMAS MUST BE KILLED.

 

[Lisa558]

They want to do it everywhere they go. I got fired from my job for stating the below on a news site on my personal computer at home.

Peaceful Muslims want the same thing that extreme Muslims want, a worldwide Caliphate. The only difference is they use peaceful means to do so. They immigrate to your country, breed like Cockroaches, then use your Democracy to vote for Muslim rule.

They don't want anyone to know.

I think we should outlaw sex for Muslims. That would solve it.

(Hard to enforce, though.)

 

[Slyhunter]

I think we should outlaw sex for Muslims. That would solve it.

(Hard to enforce, though.)

They're not all bad, I am sure, it's likely. Bit those who practice their faith as it was originally written are the problem. I have a similar problem with Christians trying to legislate their faith, outlawing porn and stuff. It scares me if the Republicans get too much control of our 3 branches. But the Democrats scares me more. Trump is not a real Republican, but he had to pick a party to win.

 

[Lisa558]

They're not all bad, I am sure, it's likely. Bit those who practice their faith as it was originally written are the problem. I have a similar problem with Christians trying to legislate their faith, outlawing porn and stuff. It scares me if the Republicans get too much control of our 3 branches. But the Democrats scares me more. Trump is not a real Republican, but he had to pick a party to win.

Trump’s policies are excellent, no matter how you label him.

And I like that he is going to put Elon in charge of government waste and redundancy. The way government employees abuse the system while they rake in six-figure salaries needs to be stopped. I live just outside DC, and it’s ridiculous. They go on vacation without taking leave, from ski trips to Vermont to international cruises, and because they log on to do a couple of hours of work each day, they call it “work.”

 

[Slyhunter]

Trump’s policies are excellent, no matter how you label him.

And I like that he is going to put Elon in charge of government waste and redundancy. The way government employees abuse the system while they rake in six-figure salaries needs to be stopped. I live just outside DC, and it’s ridiculous. They go on vacation without taking leave, from ski trips to Vermont to international cruises, and because they log on to do a couple of hours of work each day, they call it “work.”

Yeah, he is exactly what our government needs. Not because he knows everything or has the best character, but because he knows how to delegate and bring in those that do.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah, he is exactly what our government needs. Not because he knows everything or has the best character, but because he knows how to delegate and bring in those that do.

You should live in DC and see what I see! I can’t even get a chair in the shade at the pool (I’m retired) because the government “workers” are hogging them from 11 am - 3 pm. Then they go back in their house to do a couple of hours a work.

One even admitted to me that she works about 10 hours a week! And I know from her GS and step that she earns around $150,000.

 

[daveman]

That's prolly why the Jew-hating Hamas fanbois here don't want to go enlist in Hamas.