Israel makes man starve himself almost to death to get justice

[Daniyel]

everyone that is arrested is a suspect until found guilty.

haters gunna hate before think

They were never going to try them. Ask the GITMO freedom fighters what that's like.

Bringing Alan to trial would expose the intelligence agents, there is an evidence this PIJ terrorist that was already convicted for plotting a suicide bombing is planning another suicide attack.
So it's either he starve himself to death or released to be captured later with more blood on his hands.. note the fact he refused to leave Israel for four years..
I say let him die or finish his detention.

Bullshit. Could have easily testified in secrecy or had their ID's kept secret etc. He is innocent and his life and the blood of MILLIONS of innocents is on Israel's hands. Course jews really don't care now do they. If it isn't a jew they could care less.

Innocent for already being convicted? I can't see how a convicted terrorist is innocent.
Additionally why do you think he is being held if not for the fact he is a PIJ terrorist that exposing the sources of his cell won't blow the entire operation?
It's the same with drug dealers, you must take the entire net down without any loose ends.
He is a terrorist period, the only question that your logic refuse to resolve properly is if to release him brain damaged or healthy or not due to the consequences..don't forget he refused to be expelled from Israel earlier, however he is now brain damaged and SC ordered him free.

 

[Lipush]

Palestinian detainee ‘ends 65-day hunger strike’ as suspended by Israeli Supreme Court

Sick bastards. They are gloating over the fact that he is brain damaged and can "do no harm"...how about FINDING SOME EVIDENCE and CHARGING HIM!? Bless this patriot for standing up to the terrorist apartheid state. I hope he can come back from the damage done to him to get justice in his case. Sad sad sad.

He is Islamic Jihad. He does not have any idea what justice even means.

 

[Preacher]

everyone that is arrested is a suspect until found guilty.

haters gunna hate before think

They were never going to try them. Ask the GITMO freedom fighters what that's like.

Bringing Alan to trial would expose the intelligence agents, there is an evidence this PIJ terrorist that was already convicted for plotting a suicide bombing is planning another suicide attack.
So it's either he starve himself to death or released to be captured later with more blood on his hands.. note the fact he refused to leave Israel for four years..
I say let him die or finish his detention.

Bullshit. Could have easily testified in secrecy or had their ID's kept secret etc. He is innocent and his life and the blood of MILLIONS of innocents is on Israel's hands. Course jews really don't care now do they. If it isn't a jew they could care less.

Care to explain how Israel forced him to starve himself almost to death, or is this just another of your sensationalist BLOOD LIBELS and LIES because you hate the Jews so much. DO you realise that your posts could be responsible for a child being murdered as it incites RACIST VIOLENCE against the Jews

Palestinian detainee ‘ends 65-day hunger strike’ as suspended by Israeli Supreme Court

Sick bastards. They are gloating over the fact that he is brain damaged and can "do no harm"...how about FINDING SOME EVIDENCE and CHARGING HIM!? Bless this patriot for standing up to the terrorist apartheid state. I hope he can come back from the damage done to him to get justice in his case. Sad sad sad.

He is Islamic Jihad. He does not have any idea what justice even means.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians,Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

 

[RoccoR]

Odium, et al,

Oh you are so full of it.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians, Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

(COMMENT)

There was a single period deployment [Operation Cast Lead (OCL) at midday on 27 December 2008] of white phosphorus (WP) munitions use. Israel acknowledged using them in a 6 January 2009 strike that killed 43 Palestinians outside an UNRWA school in Jabaliya being used as a shelter. These are the pictures that you see most often. However, in March 2009, Human Rights Watch made unsubstantiated reports of WP use at seven (7) HAMAS targets in northern Gaza (Bayt Lahiya, Siyafa, al-Atatra), Gaza City (including a 15 January strike that destroyed UNRWA’s main food storage depot), and fire missions in Khuza near Khan Yunis. You can tell by the small number of rounds used, these were fired for other than effective destruction (spotting guns --- marking and registration).

Israel’s Illegal Use of White Phosphorus During ‘Operation Cast Lead’
Israeli and international human rights organizations accused Israel of using white phosphorus munitions improperly during Israel’s three-week military offensive against Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza in the winter of 2008-9. Such munitions are not prohibited under international law, but they are not supposed to be used in civilian areas, because white phosphorus is highly flammable and, like napalm, it can burn flesh. Israel maintained that its use of shells containing phosphorus did not violate international law.

NOTE: Isabel Kershner, “Israel: Military to Stop Using Shells Containing Phosphorus,” New York Times, April 26, 2013,​

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) doesn't make a judgement of legality or illegality. If it observes a questionable event, it "discussing this with the party concerned – rather than speaking publicly – in keeping with our standard practices." Peter Herby, Head of the ICRC's Arms Unit: "We have not commented publicly on the legality of the current use of phosphorous weapons by Israel, contrary to what has been attributed to us in recent media reports."

• "In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way." ---- Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.
​

I suppose that the ICRC made a good (Article 2, Protocol III) case with the IDF; and the IDF made a decision to error on the side of caution; terminating the use. The Israel Defense Force Investigative outcomes are clear that there were cases in which the WP was used inappropriately and out of policy. Corrective measures have been taken.

In every war that last for decades (HAMAS declaring Jihad in 1988), there are bound to be incidents that might be viewed as excessive. War is environment prone for events. And we need to be prepared to hear whining from the Arab Palestinian aggressors for yet another 20 years.

As for the rest of this broad brush stroke, Israel was targeting hostile rocket launch sites and other HAMAS activity locations. It is what you do in war. To the extend possible, warnings are given. The Arab Palestinians are eventually going to unmask themselves for the street bully they are --- and the crybaby they play on the world stage. They instigate a conflict and spend the entire time whining to the world about how badly they are being beat.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Preacher]

Trying to justify war crimes. Nuff said.

 

[theliq]

Odium, et al,

Oh you are so full of it.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians, Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

(COMMENT)

There was a single period deployment [Operation Cast Lead (OCL) at midday on 27 December 2008] of white phosphorus (WP) munitions use. Israel acknowledged using them in a 6 January 2009 strike that killed 43 Palestinians outside an UNRWA school in Jabaliya being used as a shelter. These are the pictures that you see most often. However, in March 2009, Human Rights Watch made unsubstantiated reports of WP use at seven (7) HAMAS targets in northern Gaza (Bayt Lahiya, Siyafa, al-Atatra), Gaza City (including a 15 January strike that destroyed UNRWA’s main food storage depot), and fire missions in Khuza near Khan Yunis. You can tell by the small number of rounds used, these were fired for other than effective destruction (spotting guns --- marking and registration).

Israel’s Illegal Use of White Phosphorus During ‘Operation Cast Lead’
Israeli and international human rights organizations accused Israel of using white phosphorus munitions improperly during Israel’s three-week military offensive against Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza in the winter of 2008-9. Such munitions are not prohibited under international law, but they are not supposed to be used in civilian areas, because white phosphorus is highly flammable and, like napalm, it can burn flesh. Israel maintained that its use of shells containing phosphorus did not violate international law.

NOTE: Isabel Kershner, “Israel: Military to Stop Using Shells Containing Phosphorus,” New York Times, April 26, 2013,​

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) doesn't make a judgement of legality or illegality. If it observes a questionable event, it "discussing this with the party concerned – rather than speaking publicly – in keeping with our standard practices." Peter Herby, Head of the ICRC's Arms Unit: "We have not commented publicly on the legality of the current use of phosphorous weapons by Israel, contrary to what has been attributed to us in recent media reports."

• "In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way." ---- Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.
​

I suppose that the ICRC made a good (Article 2, Protocol III) case with the IDF; and the IDF made a decision to error on the side of caution; terminating the use. The Israel Defense Force Investigative outcomes are clear that there were cases in which the WP was used inappropriately and out of policy. Corrective measures have been taken.

In every war that last for decades (HAMAS declaring Jihad in 1988), there are bound to be incidents that might be viewed as excessive. War is environment prone for events. And we need to be prepared to hear whining from the Arab Palestinian aggressors for yet another 20 years.

As for the rest of this broad brush stroke, Israel was targeting hostile rocket launch sites and other HAMAS activity locations. It is what you do in war. To the extend possible, warnings are given. The Arab Palestinians are eventually going to unmask themselves for the street bully they are --- and the crybaby they play on the world stage. They instigate a conflict and spend the entire time whining to the world about how badly they are being beat.

Most Respectfully,
R

Very Poor ONE SIDE COMMENT Rocco.........look if you really want to be taken seriously how about a truthful balance when making a post....your one sided diatribe against the Palestinians and your reluctance to expose Israeli crimes is just not real or realistic......Why do you often defend the INDEFENCIBLE

I like you Rocco,but come on now.......a little balance is due..steve

 

[Two Thumbs]

everyone that is arrested is a suspect until found guilty.

haters gunna hate before think

They were never going to try them. Ask the GITMO freedom fighters what that's like.

Bringing Alan to trial would expose the intelligence agents, there is an evidence this PIJ terrorist that was already convicted for plotting a suicide bombing is planning another suicide attack.
So it's either he starve himself to death or released to be captured later with more blood on his hands.. note the fact he refused to leave Israel for four years..
I say let him die or finish his detention.

Bullshit. Could have easily testified in secrecy or had their ID's kept secret etc. He is innocent and his life and the blood of MILLIONS of innocents is on Israel's hands. Course jews really don't care now do they. If it isn't a jew they could care less.

Care to explain how Israel forced him to starve himself almost to death, or is this just another of your sensationalist BLOOD LIBELS and LIES because you hate the Jews so much. DO you realise that your posts could be responsible for a child being murdered as it incites RACIST VIOLENCE against the Jews

Palestinian detainee ‘ends 65-day hunger strike’ as suspended by Israeli Supreme Court

Sick bastards. They are gloating over the fact that he is brain damaged and can "do no harm"...how about FINDING SOME EVIDENCE and CHARGING HIM!? Bless this patriot for standing up to the terrorist apartheid state. I hope he can come back from the damage done to him to get justice in his case. Sad sad sad.

He is Islamic Jihad. He does not have any idea what justice even means.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians,Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

Are you on crack? Or do you forget that muslims hide behind their women and kids?



war sucks and it sucks more to not be good at it.

 

[Two Thumbs]

oh and

I
Don't
Give
A
****
what the UN says about a ******* thing when they have china on the human rights board

 

[Daniyel]

Pay close attention to the comment of Dr. Basem Naim

 

[Phoenall]

everyone that is arrested is a suspect until found guilty.

haters gunna hate before think

They were never going to try them. Ask the GITMO freedom fighters what that's like.

Bringing Alan to trial would expose the intelligence agents, there is an evidence this PIJ terrorist that was already convicted for plotting a suicide bombing is planning another suicide attack.
So it's either he starve himself to death or released to be captured later with more blood on his hands.. note the fact he refused to leave Israel for four years..
I say let him die or finish his detention.

Bullshit. Could have easily testified in secrecy or had their ID's kept secret etc. He is innocent and his life and the blood of MILLIONS of innocents is on Israel's hands. Course jews really don't care now do they. If it isn't a jew they could care less.

Care to explain how Israel forced him to starve himself almost to death, or is this just another of your sensationalist BLOOD LIBELS and LIES because you hate the Jews so much. DO you realise that your posts could be responsible for a child being murdered as it incites RACIST VIOLENCE against the Jews

Palestinian detainee ‘ends 65-day hunger strike’ as suspended by Israeli Supreme Court

Sick bastards. They are gloating over the fact that he is brain damaged and can "do no harm"...how about FINDING SOME EVIDENCE and CHARGING HIM!? Bless this patriot for standing up to the terrorist apartheid state. I hope he can come back from the damage done to him to get justice in his case. Sad sad sad.

He is Islamic Jihad. He does not have any idea what justice even means.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians,Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

Then where are the results of the court cases and sentences handed down. Or do you mean the anti semitic resolutions brought by the islamonazis that have no power in law and cant find anyone guilty of anything.

Age is no barrier to being a terrorists as shown by the very young child cutting the head of an innocent man because the koran tells him to. remember that W.P. was used correctly and along the lines accepted by IHL until banned, then it was used by hamas in the rockets targeting Israeli children A WAR CRIME. If the schools and hospitals were not used as a cover for rocket launchers then they would not be targeted would they again A WAR CRIME using schools and hospitals for this reason.

 

[Phoenall]

Trying to justify war crimes. Nuff said.

What war crimes are those then, how about a definitive article from an unbiased non partisan source showing them and the actions taken by the ICC/ICJ against Israel ?

 

[Phoenall]

Odium, et al,

Oh you are so full of it.

2 Israel lovers conveniently forgetting the fact how many times Israel has been found guilty for crimes by the UN....Israel that targets kids and old people and women,Israel that used white phosphorous on civilians, Israel that targets schools and hospitals.

(COMMENT)

There was a single period deployment [Operation Cast Lead (OCL) at midday on 27 December 2008] of white phosphorus (WP) munitions use. Israel acknowledged using them in a 6 January 2009 strike that killed 43 Palestinians outside an UNRWA school in Jabaliya being used as a shelter. These are the pictures that you see most often. However, in March 2009, Human Rights Watch made unsubstantiated reports of WP use at seven (7) HAMAS targets in northern Gaza (Bayt Lahiya, Siyafa, al-Atatra), Gaza City (including a 15 January strike that destroyed UNRWA’s main food storage depot), and fire missions in Khuza near Khan Yunis. You can tell by the small number of rounds used, these were fired for other than effective destruction (spotting guns --- marking and registration).

Israel’s Illegal Use of White Phosphorus During ‘Operation Cast Lead’
Israeli and international human rights organizations accused Israel of using white phosphorus munitions improperly during Israel’s three-week military offensive against Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza in the winter of 2008-9. Such munitions are not prohibited under international law, but they are not supposed to be used in civilian areas, because white phosphorus is highly flammable and, like napalm, it can burn flesh. Israel maintained that its use of shells containing phosphorus did not violate international law.

NOTE: Isabel Kershner, “Israel: Military to Stop Using Shells Containing Phosphorus,” New York Times, April 26, 2013,​

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) doesn't make a judgement of legality or illegality. If it observes a questionable event, it "discussing this with the party concerned – rather than speaking publicly – in keeping with our standard practices." Peter Herby, Head of the ICRC's Arms Unit: "We have not commented publicly on the legality of the current use of phosphorous weapons by Israel, contrary to what has been attributed to us in recent media reports."

• "In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way." ---- Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.
​

I suppose that the ICRC made a good (Article 2, Protocol III) case with the IDF; and the IDF made a decision to error on the side of caution; terminating the use. The Israel Defense Force Investigative outcomes are clear that there were cases in which the WP was used inappropriately and out of policy. Corrective measures have been taken.

In every war that last for decades (HAMAS declaring Jihad in 1988), there are bound to be incidents that might be viewed as excessive. War is environment prone for events. And we need to be prepared to hear whining from the Arab Palestinian aggressors for yet another 20 years.

As for the rest of this broad brush stroke, Israel was targeting hostile rocket launch sites and other HAMAS activity locations. It is what you do in war. To the extend possible, warnings are given. The Arab Palestinians are eventually going to unmask themselves for the street bully they are --- and the crybaby they play on the world stage. They instigate a conflict and spend the entire time whining to the world about how badly they are being beat.

Most Respectfully,
R

Very Poor ONE SIDE COMMENT Rocco.........look if you really want to be taken seriously how about a truthful balance when making a post....your one sided diatribe against the Palestinians and your reluctance to expose Israeli crimes is just not real or realistic......Why do you often defend the INDEFENCIBLE

I like you Rocco,but come on now.......a little balance is due..steve

Is this because the reports in the post come down in Israel's favour and show that you are just trying to incite racism, religious intolerance, violence and propaganda against the Jews. The post was balanced as it showed the laws in place at the time of the events and how Israel was within those laws all the time. What crimes were committed and detail them and the laws they were in breach of in full so we can all see how you want to racially abuse the Jews

 

[RoccoR]

theliq, et al,

Balance has to do with weighing the law. As for our friend "Odium's" comment:

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Every nation has the right to defend themselves from the actions of a hostile aggressor that would constitute, under any other circumstances, acts of war.

Chapter VII --- Article 51 UN CHARTER
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,
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It should be noted that:

• The duty of each party (HAMAS included) to the conflict to take all feasible precautions to protect the civilian population and civilian objects under its control against the effects of attacks is set forth in Article 58(c) of Additional Protocol I, to which no reservations have been made. (Customary IHL Rule #22) "Specific examples of how the general obligation to take precautions against the effects of attacks has been implemented include first and foremost the two specific obligations identified in Rules 23 and 24 below."

∆ Customary IHL Rule #23. Location of Military Objectives outside Densely Populated Areas
∆ Customary IHL Rule #24. Removal of Civilians and Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Objectives
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Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. [(Customary IHL Rule #97) ICC Statute, Article 8(2)(b)(xxiii) (ibid., § 2255)] In the case of HAMAS, they specifically moved the launch sites of rockets and mortars, as well as their high value personalities and targets into densely populated areas.

Very Poor ONE SIDE COMMENT Rocco.........look if you really want to be taken seriously how about a truthful balance when making a post....your one sided diatribe against the Palestinians and your reluctance to expose Israeli crimes is just not real or realistic......Why do you often defend the INDEFENCIBLE

I like you Rocco,but come on now.......a little balance is due..steve

(COMMENT)

With regards all the various claims made by the pro-Palestinian Movements, and I take them all seriously, they boil down to this:

• The pro-Palestinian camp basically charge that Israel violated Article 8 (2) (b) (iv) of the Rome Statutes; a War Crime of excessive incidental death, injury, or damage. This claim, makes the charge that:

∆ Israel launched an attack [2014 Israel–Gaza conflict, AKA: Operation Protective Edge (OPE) commencing 8 July 2014 in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip]

ø The threat tunneling posed.
ø The threat that Rocket and Mortar posed.
ø The kidnapping and murder of civilians.
​

∆ The attack was such that it would cause incidental death or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment and that such death, injury or damage would be of such an extent as to be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated.

ø Restoring security to Israeli civilians living under HAMAS rocket fire.
ø Dismantling the Hamas tunnel network used to infiltrate Israel.
​

∆ The State of Israel knew that the attack would cause incidental death or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment and that such death, injury or damage would be of such an extent as to be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated.

ø To the extent that individual attacks and fire missions were called upon to respond or destroy enemy operations, it was not clearly excessive. In fact, an argument could be made that the suppression by fires may have been of sufficient intensity
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∆ The conduct took place in the context of and was associated with an international armed conflict.

ø Now this is interesting. If you use the logic of HAMAS (and that of our friend "P F Tinmore"), it is not an "international conflict" and that all military action was confined to the 1922 demarcations of the territory to which the Mandate applied. If this is the case, then there is a quest if there are any "War Crimes" to be considered. This is stipulated both by Covenant and by HAMAS political policy.
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∆ The State of Israel was aware of factual circumstances that established the existence of an armed conflict.

ø HAMAS launched 450 Rockets into the State of Israel between January and July 2014.
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On 12 February 2015, The Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC would be conducting preliminary examinations independent and impartial investigations relating to the situation in Palestine.

There is no crime of "colonization" in the international criminal code, and certainly not listed as a "war crime." The Crime of Apartheid is not a "War Crime" but an Article 7 (1) (j) Crime Against Humanity, and is very interesting. It does not actually stipulate where the barrier is that creates the environment for apartheid. Again, it should be remembered that HAMAS (and that of our friend "P F Tinmore"), it is not an "international conflict" and that all military action was confined to the 1922 demarcations of the territory to which the Mandate applied. Be that as it may, in order for it to be "apartheid," it has to be proven that:

∆ The conduct was committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups.

ø What institutionalized regime of systematic oppression? What security containment measures that are instituted are based on the past history of Arab Palestinian criminal behaviors.
ø What domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups. Israel is much more highly diverse in its culture that the State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza Strip considered individually or collectively). No matter what "racial group" the Arab Palestinians invent, the general population of Israel has that component within it.
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∆ That the State of Israel intended to maintain such regime by that conduct.

ø Yes, what is this regime that Israel is trying to maintain?
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∆ The conduct was committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population.

ø There is no widespread or systematic attack on the part of Israel; especially against the Arab Palestinian population of Gaza. The Arab Palestinians are enjoined to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel. (Chapter I --- Article 2(4) - UN Charter)
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∆ That the State of Israel knew that the conduct was part of or intended the conduct to be part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population.

ø No attacks were directed a the civilian population. Unfortunate as it is, the large number of civilian casualties were a result of either HAMAS ignoring Rules 22, 23, 24, and 97, or the Arab Palestinians ignoring Israeli warnings.
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Most Respectfully,
R​