Israel launches airstrikes against Iran.

In theory they can go through one of the Sunni states that doesn’t like Iran. This ain’t the 1960s anymore. They could launch from Saudi Arabia ….

Israel is not surrounded by enemies


It’s also true that there are really despicable people in both Iran and Israel. You see multiple things are true at the same time. Iran is far more authoritarian and anti-democratic compared to Israel.

Israel is not as democratic as the USA though.


Btw absolutely no American troops fighting this war. I can’t imagine that ever working. Americans don’t have the stomach for it ….
Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states have all condemned Israel's attack on Iran and Saudi Arabia is still technically at war with Israel, so there is no practical avenue for moving Israeli troops and their massive amounts of equipment to Iran. Even if there were, there is no practical reason for Israel to suffer the enormous cost in blood and treasure such an action would require.

Israel is a liberal democracy just as the US is.

Israel has never asked the US to risk the lives of its soldiers.
 
Stupid to you, perhaps. But there are plenty of strategic and tactical opportunities presenting themselves, given how vulnerable Iran is.

The Israeli defense forces are called defense forces for a reason they stay in their country and that immediate area they don't send armies 2,000 miles away to conquer other countries......the Iranian people want regime change

 
The Israeli defense forces are called defense forces for a reason they stay in their country and that immediate area they don't send armies 2,000 miles away to conquer other countries......the Iranian people want regime change


They have already been used to invade Gaza. They know how to invade foreign territory.

The best way to change a regime is to drastically weaken it or destroy it. Killing the Aytollah wouldn't need a full-scale invasion, just a Bin Laden-style raid.
 
Why?

Only one country has used Nukes in history against people.

That country used them against two civilian populations in a country that was already defeated and desperately looking for terms to surrender.

Here's the thing.

Saddam gave up his Nukes, and we murdered him anyway.
Khadafy gave up his Nukes, and we murdered him anyway.
Kim Jong-Il refused to give up his nukes, and world kissed his and his son's ass.

Seems to me that Iran would be well-advised to get them some nukes ASAP.

Saddam never had nukes.

Gaddafi never had nukes.

You're a ******* idiot. And learn how to spell names "Khadafy", what a ******* moron.
 
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I mean, the nuclear reactors aren't going to neutralize themselves...
Extracting plutonium from spent fuel rods is a much more complex process than enriching uranium and presently Iran does not have the ability to do this.
 
They have already been used to invade Gaza. They know how to invade foreign territory.

The best way to change a regime is to drastically weaken it or destroy it. Killing the Aytollah wouldn't need a full-scale invasion, just a Bin Laden-style raid.
Gaza is technically part of Israel what are you talking about? Iran is 2,000 miles away.... United States is still the only country in the world that can send armies thousands of miles around the world to liberate other counties
 
Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states have all condemned Israel's attack on Iran and Saudi Arabia is still technically at war with Israel, so there is no practical avenue for moving Israeli troops and their massive amounts of equipment to Iran. Even if there were, there is no practical reason for Israel to suffer the enormous cost in blood and treasure such an action would require.

Israel is a liberal democracy just as the US is.

Israel has never asked the US to risk the lives of its soldiers.

I don't know why these liberal stupid fuckers keep saying "We shouldn't be fighting alongside Israel."

NAME ONE MOTHERFUCKING WAR WHERE US SOLDIERS FOUGHT ALONGSIDE ISRAELI SOLDIERS. OH YEA, ******* NEVER.
 
Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states have all condemned Israel's attack on Iran and Saudi Arabia is still technically at war with Israel, so there is no practical avenue for moving Israeli troops and their massive amounts of equipment to Iran. Even if there were, there is no practical reason for Israel to suffer the enormous cost in blood and treasure such an action would require.

Israel is a liberal democracy just as the US is.

Israel has never asked the US to risk the lives of its soldiers.
I could certainly see a scenario where Israeli troops are stationed in Saudi Arabia. This is not the 1960s hell not even the 1990s anymore. It’s a much different world. We are living in a world where even for the Middle East it is so much different than it was even 20 years ago. The reforms in Saudi Arabia are extraordinary.

Trump was championed and welcomed in Saudi Arabia. How about that.

Again I was being fair recognizing that Iran is more authoritarian compared to Israel. Israel is a Jewish theocracy combined with a form of democracy. It’s immigration laws are just about entirely different compared to America’s. Any Jew in the world can immigrate to Israel. It’s kind of a unique situation.

Inter faith marriages are not allowed to be performed in Israel. That’s also something that makes it different from America. Interfaith couples have to leave Israel to have their marriage performed in a different country. They can then come back to Israel …that’s the same thing in Saudi Arabia where there’s interfaith couples.
 
I could certainly see a scenario where Israeli troops are stationed in Saudi Arabia. This is not the 1960s hell not even the 1990s anymore. It’s a much different world. We are living in a world where even for the Middle East it is so much different than it was even 20 years ago. The reforms in Saudi Arabia are extraordinary.

Trump was championed and welcomed in Saudi Arabia. How about that.

Again I was being fair recognizing that Iran is more authoritarian compared to Israel. Israel is a Jewish theocracy combined with a form of democracy. It’s immigration laws are just about entirely different compared to America’s. Any Jew in the world can immigrate to Israel. It’s kind of a unique situation.

Inter faith marriages are not allowed to be performed in Israel. That’s also something that makes it different from America. Interfaith couples have to leave Israel to have their marriage performed in a different country. They can then come back to Israel …that’s the same thing in Saudi Arabia where there’s interfaith couples.
Perhaps you don't understand that Saudi Arabia and all the Gulf states have condemned the Israeli attack on Iran. If you had, you would have understood how absurd it is to suggest Israeli troops could be stationed in Saudi Arabia.

If you understood what the word, theocracy, means, you would have understood how absurd it is to call Israel a to call Israel a Jewish Theocracy.

While it is true that nearly every Jew in the world can immigrate to Israel, it is also true that Israel has immigration laws very similar to the US for everyone not luck enough to be Jewish.

The state only recognizes marriages that are performed with the rules of the participants religious community, so if a Muslim and Christian decide to marry, if the marriage takes place in Israel, the state will not recognize it, but if that marriage is performed outside of Israel, the state will recognize it. This goes for everyone, not just Jews.

Finally, if you had any idea what the term, liberal democracy meant, you would realize none of what you have posted contradicts Israel being a liberal democracy just as the US and the western European nations are.
 
Curious, if they can get the Mossad there, can they not get regular troops there too?

Israel has a massive Airforce but its army is not big enough to invade a huge nation like iran. Tens of thousands of jews would die too
 
Gaza is technically part of Israel what are you talking about? Iran is 2,000 miles away.... United States is still the only country in the world that can send armies thousands of miles around the world to liberate other counties
By decapitating the IRGC, Israel has clearly indicated that regime change is a secondary goal to getting Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions. You're drastically underestimating their ability to project power into the region.
 
And look how well that worked out for them? Most of that territory they had to give back.

The reality is, their sneak attack will probably rally most of the Islamic world around Iran.
Boy are you wrong. The entire Arab world is against Iran.
 
Perhaps you don't understand that Saudi Arabia and all the Gulf states have condemned the Israeli attack on Iran. If you had, you would have understood how absurd it is to suggest Israeli troops could be stationed in Saudi Arabia.

If you understood what the word, theocracy, means, you would have understood how absurd it is to call Israel a to call Israel a Jewish Theocracy.

While it is true that nearly every Jew in the world can immigrate to Israel, it is also true that Israel has immigration laws very similar to the US for everyone not luck enough to be Jewish.

The state only recognizes marriages that are performed with the rules of the participants religious community, so if a Muslim and Christian decide to marry, if the marriage takes place in Israel, the state will not recognize it, but if that marriage is performed outside of Israel, the state will recognize it. This goes for everyone, not just Jews.

Finally, if you had any idea what the term, liberal democracy meant, you would realize none of what you have posted contradicts Israel being a liberal democracy just as the US and the western European nations are.
Ok oh lol this escalated quickly. All of these pointless personal attacks.

Theocracy that is precisely what is going on with the Jewish radicals in Israel preventing the interfaith marriage ceremony in the country. “The rules” well that is just supremacists like supremacist Jews. It is their own opinion on Judaism They’re not God. And the government in Israel for whatever reason goes along with the supremacist, instead of saying, no too bad we will allow the interfaith marriage to be recognized in Israel. But they don’t do it. So it’s their own fault.

That is beyond despicable. And it is not something that a civilized government would allow.

Throughout history, various US administrations have criticized Israeli actions. Saudi Arabia has done this too. Now the key point was undeniable and factually true that this is no longer the 1960s. It’s not even the 1990s. The Middle East is a much different place. Not the Middle East of back in the day. Point is there could still be a scenario where is Israeli Troops are in Saudi Arabia.

Oh ya and Saudi Arabia has a lot of great things going for it. It’s on par with Israel. All of the middle class strength. No left-wing fanaticism no men going into women’s bathrooms in Saudi Arabia ..,,some cases it’s better than Israel. Yay I certainly don’t buy into that massive Zionist propaganda line that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East or the bullshit belief that Israel is a democracy and a sea of dictatorship. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Nothing you’re saying this, but this is of course with plenty of pros have said. And it also takes away from Donald Trump. It’s an insult to Donald Trump who was welcomed as a hero by Saudi Arabia.


I’ll say whatever I want about Israel or Iran I’ve criticized both. And I don’t expect to be insulted in return.

I’m gonna say this again I recognize that Iran is more authoritarian compared to Israel. I therefore cannot be accused of being some lackey for “radical Islam” or some nonsense like…. that which I can guarantee you as I’ve already seen is what a few of the fanatical pro Zionists believe about me. People I have on ignore thankfully.

I do not see Israel as being on the same level of the United States when it comes to liberalism or democracy. …if you want to respond with harsh language and claim I don’t know what I’m talking about or I don’t have any idea what this or that means…. Go ahead doesnt matter. Just try and be able to converse properly …I don’t believe in treating people like that regardless of their opinion. You can say whatever you want about Islam or Catholicism or Saudi Arabia or anything (I’m a Catholic). I wouldn’t in return start saying things like “if you had any idea”
 
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How about “ the great one“ Mark Levin. A radical Zionist overweight slob who wants to insult Donald Trump, and claim that Qatar is the source of all the problems right after Qatar welcomes Trump in a really nice ceremony.

Levin should go join the IDF….he won’t he’ll just keep ranting and raving about how great Israel is while eating more ice cream ….no doubt he supports young American Christian men going off to fight in some Middle East war that has nothing to do with them.
 
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If the Iranian People are going to rise up and expel the Mullahs, now's the time.
 
(June 13, 2025 / JNS)
Israel’s strikes against Iran on Friday morning were a “calculated and necessary action” that was “carried out in response to an escalating existential threat,” Danny Danon, Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, told reporters in New York at the global body’s headquarters.

The Islamic Republic has a long history of funding and training terror proxies across the Middle East, but the direct threat from the regime “took a dramatic turn,” Danon said. “Iran advanced significantly toward nuclear weapons capabilities.
Danon pointed to a secret program, which Israeli intelligence uncovered, that showed dangerous Iranian progress toward a nuclear bomb. It also revealed plans for a surprise attack on Israel in coordination with Iran’s proxies, with an invasion “from all sides, with thousands of terrorists and thousands of projectiles” going beyond an Oct. 7-style attack and incorporating “a nuclear strike,” the envoy said.

Israel “could not, and would not, wait for that moment to arrive,” he said.

 
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He noted “an absence of meaningful international consequences” to Iran’s “repeated violations” and its “continued deception” amid a recent International Atomic Energy Agency report showing that Tehran’s nuclear program was outside the parameters of its international commitments. The report also showed that Iran obscures the details of its nuclear program.

Danon chided António Guterres, the U.N. secretary-general, who issued a statement earlier on Friday expressing “concern” over Israel’s operation.

“I must ask: Where was the secretary-general when Iran spent years arming itself while vowing to wipe Israel off the map?” Danon said. “Where was his voice when Iran rained hundreds of missiles and drones on our civilians?”
 
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