Israel fire's on UN Shelter killing 15

[Ropey]

Where are the Hamas claims of outrage while thousands of Syria's Arabs have been killed? How come Egypt and the other Arabs don't seem concerned about those deaths?

Golda Meir said it best, "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us".

 

[docmauser1]

The Palestinians are the most hated Arabs in the Middle East. By this time even Egypt will not let them cross the border on their way to their country.

Their country is where they are at right now, moron.

Oh, then why do they want Israel too?

 

[Daniyel]

IDF Spokesmen said its Hamas rockets that hit the UN Shelter.
I Know you are not blessed with great imagination when it comes to real facts so for that I posted another video of what 4 airstrike shells can cause to a facility.
Hamas claimed Israeli Tanks(artillery?) bombarded the facility.
So let me ask you this, What benefit could come to Israel to spend millions on missiles just to shoot them on UN Shelter specially when the entire world is watching, dozens of journalists raiding Gaza, and the UN accepted the Palestinian nomination to investigate IDF for war crimes?
-Enlighten us-


@fanger
@i.p.freely

You jump through hoops and lie your ass off just to avoid any responsibility for the shit things you do. You're a coward!

You bombed a UN school full of children. You're worse than a terrorist. At least terrorists claim responsibility for their atrocities, you're too ***** to even do that.

lekh tiz'da'yen

You are dodging from answering my question, I also have the right to lay my case, and you just ignore it..So you speak Hebrew or just the cussing you usually throw on IDF soldiers so you could capture "random brutality from the IDF"?

 

[Billo_Really]

You are dodging from answering my question, I also have the right to lay my case, and you just ignore it..So you speak Hebrew or just the cussing you usually throw on IDF soldiers so you could capture "random brutality from the IDF"?

I haven't ignored anything! What have I not answered? I specifically answered each of your questions and by claiming I didn't, shows you have an agenda you're determined to stick to. Saying I'm "dodging" your questions, after I've given you the specific posts of mine that answered them, is ludicrous.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to answer why you called me a "liar"?

 

[Billo_Really]

Where are the Hamas claims of outrage while thousands of Syria's Arabs have been killed? How come Egypt and the other Arabs don't seem concerned about those deaths?

Golda Meir said it best, "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us".

Why is Israel supporting those groups that are affiliated with al Qaeda, are terrorists by every definition of the word and one group (ISIL), has even claimed responsibility for the killing of the 3 teens?

Why does Israel provide comfort and aid to them?

 

[Daniyel]

You jump through hoops and lie your ass off just to avoid any responsibility for the shit things you do. You're a coward!
You bombed a UN school full of children. You're worse than a terrorist. At least terrorists claim responsibility for their atrocities, you're too ***** to even do that.
lekh tiz'da'yen

I haven't ignored anything! What have I not answered? I specifically answered each of your questions and by claiming I didn't, shows you have an agenda you're determined to stick to. Saying I'm "dodging" your questions, after I've given you the specific posts of mine that answered them, is ludicrous.
BTW, I'm still waiting for you to answer why you called me a "liar"?[/QUOTE]

Dodged the question about Hebrew.
Dodged the question about what good would come by bombing UN shelter/school/facility.
Lie 1 - Israel bombed UN school full of children.
Lie 2 - Israel has no regard to human life.
Lie 3 - Israel never take responsibility.
Additionally you insult and demonize Israel in every chance you have, enough? I got more.
[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]

 

[Kondor3]

Daniyel...

Your assessment of your 'opposite' appears to be headed in the correct direction.

However, it is best if you develop and finalize your opinion independently.

This sequence about shelling a UN school building is as good a place as any to complete that process.

Good hunting.

You jump through hoops and lie your ass off just to avoid any responsibility for the shit things you do. You're a coward!
You bombed a UN school full of children. You're worse than a terrorist. At least terrorists claim responsibility for their atrocities, you're too ***** to even do that.
lekh tiz'da'yen

I haven't ignored anything! What have I not answered? I specifically answered each of your questions and by claiming I didn't, shows you have an agenda you're determined to stick to. Saying I'm "dodging" your questions, after I've given you the specific posts of mine that answered them, is ludicrous.
BTW, I'm still waiting for you to answer why you called me a "liar"?

Dodged the question about Hebrew.
Dodged the question about what good would come by bombing UN shelter/school/facility.
Lie 1 - Israel bombed UN school full of children.
Lie 2 - Israel has no regard to human life.
Lie 3 - Israel never take responsibility.
Additionally you insult and demonize Israel in every chance you have, enough? I got more.
[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION][/QUOTE]

 

[Billo_Really]

Dodged the question about Hebrew.

No, I don't speak Hebrew.

Dodged the question about what good would come by bombing UN shelter/school/facility.

I'm not answering your dumbass conjecture.

Lie 1 - Israel bombed UN school full of children.

That's not a lie.

Lie 2 - Israel has no regard to human life.

You constantly make excuses for murdering innocent women and children, it's pretty obvious you don't.

Lie 3 - Israel never take responsibility.

You always blame someone else for the shit you do. That's irresponsible.

Additionally you insult and demonize Israel in every chance you have, enough? I got more.
[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]

That's not true. When they do something right, I give them credit for it.

Let's get one thing straight, I have no intention of kissing any Israeli ass.............EVER!

If you don't like what I say about Israel, tough shitzky! Stop living in a bubble where everyone thinks your all that and a bucket of chicken.

 

[docmauser1]

That's not true. When they do something right, I give them credit for it. Let's get one thing straight, I have no intention of kissing any Israeli ass.............EVER! If you don't like what I say about Israel, tough shitzky! Stop living in a bubble where everyone thinks your all that and a bucket of chicken.

Lies.

 

[fanger]

IDF Spokesmen said its Hamas rockets that hit the UN Shelter.
I Know you are not blessed with great imagination when it comes to real facts so for that I posted another video of what 4 airstrike shells can cause to a facility.
Hamas claimed Israeli Tanks(artillery?) bombarded the facility.
So let me ask you this, What benefit could come to Israel to spend millions on missiles just to shoot them on UN Shelter specially when the entire world is watching, dozens of journalists raiding Gaza, and the UN accepted the Palestinian nomination to investigate IDF for war crimes?
-Enlighten us-


@fanger
@i.p.freely

more than 15 women, children and United Nations staff were killed and around 200 injured when a UN shelter for those fleeing the Israeli bombing was hit.

The Israel Defence Forces insisted it had given the occupants of the shelter time to leave before shelling the area. But the UN flatly contradicted that, saying it had made repeated attempts to negotiate a window during which people could safely leave the area but none was granted. It said it had given the IDF precise co-ordinates of the location of the school.

West Bank rage at Gaza bloodshed as protests erupt over UN school attack | World news | theguardian.com

 

[Kondor3]

... West Bank rage at Gaza bloodshed as protests erupt over UN school attack | World news | theguardian.com

The Palestinians can certainly have war on two fronts if they really and truly want it.

The sheer idiocy of the Palestinians beggars description.

 

[RoccoR]

[MENTION=26838]Ropey[/MENTION], et al,

Maybe.

pbel, et al,

Combat effectiveness and collateral damage (inadvertent casualties) are not a reason for complaint; especially by the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) aggressor.

Some dummies can't add, especially if demented...32 Israelis to six hundred civilians maybe 30 fighters equals a ratio of 18.2 to 1...

(COMMENT)

The strategy used by the HoAP to incite and instigate military action is one thing. But then for the HoAP complaint that they are losing the engagement as if the defensive response on the part of the Israelis was somehow unfair, is ridiculous. Don't start a fight unless you have a reasonable expectation of success. And don't run home and cry like a bunch of little girls when you get trounced.

And for heavens sake, stop acting like a bunch of sissies and hiding behind the civilian population. You make the rest of the Muslim World look like cowards. I'm quite certain that Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn (AKA: Salidin), who took Jerusalem From The Christians during the European Crusaders in the Levant, would be rolling over in his grave at how the HoAP demonstrate al-furusiyyah al-arabiya (Arabian chivalry).

Most Respectfully,
R

The thought process that defined the view that Palestinian casualties could lead to an erosion of international support for Israel's right to defend itself from the Hamas rocket attacks is crazy.

(COMMENT)

Yes I agree --- it is crazy.

The EU strongly condemns the indiscriminate firing of rockets into Israel by Hamas and militant groups in the Gaza Strip, directly harming civilians. These are criminal and unjustifiable acts. The EU calls on Hamas to immediately put an end to these acts and to renounce violence. All terrorist groups in Gaza must disarm. The EU strongly condemns calls on the civilian population of Gaza to provide themselves as human shields.

SOURCE: 12091/14 (OR. en) PROVISIONAL VERSION PRESSE 421 PR CO 41

This Decision shall enter into force on the date of its publication in the Official Journal of the European Union.

Done at Brussels, 10 February 2014.

(1) Council Common Position 2001/931/CFSP of 27 December 2001 on the application of specific measures to combat terrorism (OJ L 344, 28.12.2001, p. 93).
(2) Council Decision 2013/395/CFSP of 25 July 2013 updating and amending the list of persons, groups and entities subject to Articles 2, 3 and 4 of Common Position 2001/931/CFSP on the application of specific measures to combat terrorism, and repealing Decision 2012/765/CFSP (OJ L 201, 26.7.2013, p. 57).

ANNEX

List of persons, groups and entities referred to in Article 1

2. GROUPS AND ENTITIES

1. ‘Abu Nidal Organisation’ – ‘ANO’ (a.k.a. ‘Fatah Revolutionary Council’, a.k.a. ‘Arab Revolutionary Brigades’, a.k.a. ‘Black September’, a.k.a. ‘Revolutionary Organisation of Socialist Muslims&#8217.
2. ‘Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade’.
3. ‘Al-Aqsa e.V.’.
9. ‘Hamas’, including ‘Hamas-Izz al-Din al-Qassem’.
10.‘Hizballah Military Wing’ (a.k.a. ‘Hezbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbullah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hezballah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hisbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbu’llah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizb Allah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Jihad Council’ (and all units reporting to it, including the External Security Organisation)).
19. ‘Palestinian Islamic Jihad’ – ‘PIJ’.
20. ‘Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine’ – ‘PFLP’.
21. ‘Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command’ (a.k.a. ‘PFLP – General Command&#8217.​

SOURCE: COUNCIL DECISION 2014/72/CFSP of 10 February 2014

There is accuracy in what you say, but it is a matter of perspective. The EU (as an example) recognizes that only so much tolerance can be expected. They understand that, without regard to their interpretation of international law, the rocket fire has been "criminal and unjustified;" and that the terrorist groups (outlined above) need to be neutralized (disarmed). They also indicated that they are not fooled by the obvious voluntary participation of the Gazian citizens as human shields for the terrorists; a type of conspiracy - for media attention as victims (which they are not). I noticed in the Thread "Israel has worldwide support," that a number of people are pushing the thought that Israel is losing support. But that is to be expected in the conflict of ideas and perception. However, more thoughtful heads will prevail. Israel is not perfect in everything is does; but then which country is?

This may yet backfire in the face of the Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[irosie91]

My take on the bombing of the "school" turned "refuge"----is that there is not sufficient
information to know what actually happened. Why guess?

 

[fanger]

The Israel Defence Forces insisted it had given the occupants of the shelter time to leave before shelling the area.

West Bank rage at Gaza bloodshed as protests erupt over UN school attack | World news | theguardian.com

 

[I.P.Freely]

[MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION] still posting videos

Uploaded on Jan 1, 2009

IDF Spokesmen said its Hamas rockets that hit the UN Shelter.
I Know you are not blessed with great imagination when it comes to real facts so for that I posted another video of what 4 airstrike shells can cause to a facility.
Hamas claimed Israeli Tanks(artillery?) bombarded the facility.
So let me ask you this, What benefit could come to Israel to spend millions on missiles just to shoot them on UN Shelter specially when the entire world is watching, dozens of journalists raiding Gaza, and the UN accepted the Palestinian nomination to investigate IDF for war crimes?
-Enlighten us-


[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]
@i.p.freely

[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION] [MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], in the light of what the UN weapons expert said after visiting the school, would you like to re-examine your stance? or whould you like to wait for the IDF findings

Ps are Hamas rockets that accurate when malfunctioning that four were direct hits on the upper floor of a small school and one landed in the playground in front of the school?

 

[Daniyel]

[MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION] still posting videos

IDF Spokesmen said its Hamas rockets that hit the UN Shelter.
I Know you are not blessed with great imagination when it comes to real facts so for that I posted another video of what 4 airstrike shells can cause to a facility.
Hamas claimed Israeli Tanks(artillery?) bombarded the facility.
So let me ask you this, What benefit could come to Israel to spend millions on missiles just to shoot them on UN Shelter specially when the entire world is watching, dozens of journalists raiding Gaza, and the UN accepted the Palestinian nomination to investigate IDF for war crimes?
-Enlighten us-


[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]

[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION] [MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], in the light of what the UN weapons expert said after visiting the school, would you like to re-examine your stance? or whould you like to wait for the IDF findings

Ps are Hamas rockets that accurate when malfunctioning that four were direct hits on the upper floor of a small school and one landed in the playground in front of the school?

Report: UNRWA Confirms Misfired Hamas Rocket Hit Gaza School Yesterday | therightplanet.com

I Also heard 1/6 of the rockets fired hits Gaza, I'm not sure how true this report is, but as I said the Hamas/Pals are not among the brightest life forms on earth, anyway every vet can tell you that the chance to find a dud in each magazine is about 2/3 out of 30 (5.56) and you forgot the long road the ammunition of Hamas goes goes to be smuggled somehow into Gaza, which only increase the chance..
I'm a weapon expert myself, thank you.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

 

[I.P.Freely]

IDF Spokesmen said its Hamas rockets that hit the UN Shelter.
I Know you are not blessed with great imagination when it comes to real facts so for that I posted another video of what 4 airstrike shells can cause to a facility.
Hamas claimed Israeli Tanks(artillery?) bombarded the facility.
So let me ask you this, What benefit could come to Israel to spend millions on missiles just to shoot them on UN Shelter specially when the entire world is watching, dozens of journalists raiding Gaza, and the UN accepted the Palestinian nomination to investigate IDF for war crimes?
-Enlighten us-


[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]

[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION] [MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], in the light of what the UN weapons expert said after visiting the school, would you like to re-examine your stance? or whould you like to wait for the IDF findings

Ps are Hamas rockets that accurate when malfunctioning that four were direct hits on the upper floor of a small school and one landed in the playground in front of the school?

Report: UNRWA Confirms Misfired Hamas Rocket Hit Gaza School Yesterday | therightplanet.com

I Also heard 1/6 of the rockets fired hits Gaza, I'm not sure how true this report is, but as I said the Hamas/Pals are not among the brightest life forms on earth, anyway every vet can tell you that the chance to find a dud in each magazine is about 2/3 out of 30 (5.56) and you forgot the long road the ammunition of Hamas goes goes to be smuggled somehow into Gaza, which only increase the chance..
I'm a weapon expert myself, thank you.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

thats strange because yesterday according to the Guardian a UNWRA investigation team sent to the school,it berated the IDF for opening fire in the area of the school. This forced them to stop their investigations. They were upset because the IDF had been informed of the investigation.
They also stated the area around the school had been subjected to heavy shelling just before the school was hit. This claim was confirmed by the IDF. A UN weapons expert also said it would be a miracle if 5 Hamas rockets were to land in the same place in a matter of minutes. The UN said We again call for an immediate investigation.

Where is the your original UNWRA statement to be found?

 

[Daniyel]

[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION] [MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], in the light of what the UN weapons expert said after visiting the school, would you like to re-examine your stance? or whould you like to wait for the IDF findings

Ps are Hamas rockets that accurate when malfunctioning that four were direct hits on the upper floor of a small school and one landed in the playground in front of the school?

Report: UNRWA Confirms Misfired Hamas Rocket Hit Gaza School Yesterday | therightplanet.com

I Also heard 1/6 of the rockets fired hits Gaza, I'm not sure how true this report is, but as I said the Hamas/Pals are not among the brightest life forms on earth, anyway every vet can tell you that the chance to find a dud in each magazine is about 2/3 out of 30 (5.56) and you forgot the long road the ammunition of Hamas goes goes to be smuggled somehow into Gaza, which only increase the chance..
I'm a weapon expert myself, thank you.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

thats strange because yesterday according to the Guardian a UNWRA investigation team sent to the school,it berated the IDF for opening fire in the area of the school. This forced them to stop their investigations. They were upset because the IDF had been informed of the investigation.
They also stated the area around the school had been subjected to heavy shelling just before the school was hit. This claim was confirmed by the IDF. A UN weapons expert also said it would be a miracle if 5 Hamas rockets were to land in the same place in a matter of minutes. The UN said We again call for an immediate investigation.

Where is the your original UNWRA statement to be found?

The IDF spokesman remarked, and UNRWA confirmed, that misfired Hamas rockets fell and exploded in the area of the Beit Hanoun school.

No official statement so far but give it some time, it will be up on the media soon.

Anyway its more likely that 1 of Hamas rockets just hit and caused secondary explosions where rockets were stored, as we both know Hamas uses UNRWA shelters to store rockets. Hamas responsible.
Second scenario is also possible where a rocket launcher of Hamas just hit the building attempting to fire IDF, since they usually fire in barrage of 4-6 rockets it is also possible scenario, Hamas responsible.
Last scenario and less possible is that Israeli artillery (accurate and precise, as you know) hit 5 times on UNRWA which is definitely impossible situation since the angel means the projectiles would've create a massive hole in the ground - which they didn't..
In the second case of 1 projectile hit the stored weapons in UNRWA shelter and caused secondary explosions, the one to blame is Hamas for storing them, and IDF for firing knowingly civilians around, also note IDF did gave them time to evacuate..and also note this is possibly a misfired projectile as well.
I don't see where you going with this, but since we have no clear report so far, lets go by the odds, you tell me.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools | UNRWA

 

[I.P.Freely]

Report: UNRWA Confirms Misfired Hamas Rocket Hit Gaza School Yesterday | therightplanet.com

I Also heard 1/6 of the rockets fired hits Gaza, I'm not sure how true this report is, but as I said the Hamas/Pals are not among the brightest life forms on earth, anyway every vet can tell you that the chance to find a dud in each magazine is about 2/3 out of 30 (5.56) and you forgot the long road the ammunition of Hamas goes goes to be smuggled somehow into Gaza, which only increase the chance..
I'm a weapon expert myself, thank you.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
[MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

thats strange because yesterday according to the Guardian a UNWRA investigation team sent to the school,it berated the IDF for opening fire in the area of the school. This forced them to stop their investigations. They were upset because the IDF had been informed of the investigation.
They also stated the area around the school had been subjected to heavy shelling just before the school was hit. This claim was confirmed by the IDF. A UN weapons expert also said it would be a miracle if 5 Hamas rockets were to land in the same place in a matter of minutes. The UN said We again call for an immediate investigation.

Where is the your original UNWRA statement to be found?

The IDF spokesman remarked, and UNRWA confirmed, that misfired Hamas rockets fell and exploded in the area of the Beit Hanoun school.

No official statement so far but give it some time, it will be up on the media soon.

Anyway its more likely that 1 of Hamas rockets just hit and caused secondary explosions where rockets were stored, as we both know Hamas uses UNRWA shelters to store rockets. Hamas responsible.
Second scenario is also possible where a rocket launcher of Hamas just hit the building attempting to fire IDF, since they usually fire in barrage of 4-6 rockets it is also possible scenario, Hamas responsible.
Last scenario and less possible is that Israeli artillery (accurate and precise, as you know) hit 5 times on UNRWA which is definitely impossible situation since the angel means the projectiles would've create a massive hole in the ground - which they didn't..
In the second case of 1 projectile hit the stored weapons in UNRWA shelter and caused secondary explosions, the one to blame is Hamas for storing them, and IDF for firing knowingly civilians around, also note IDF did gave them time to evacuate..and also note this is possibly a misfired projectile as well.
I don't see where you going with this, but since we have no clear report so far, lets go by the odds, you tell me.
[MENTION=48922]I.P.Freely[/MENTION]
UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools | UNRWA

I am happy to wait for the official response.

 

[Billo_Really]

No official statement so far but give it some time, it will be up on the media soon.

Anyway its more likely that 1 of Hamas rockets just hit and caused secondary explosions where rockets were stored, as we both know Hamas uses UNRWA shelters to store rockets. Hamas responsible.
Second scenario is also possible where a rocket launcher of Hamas just hit the building attempting to fire IDF, since they usually fire in barrage of 4-6 rockets it is also possible scenario, Hamas responsible.
Last scenario and less possible is that Israeli artillery (accurate and precise, as you know) hit 5 times on UNRWA which is definitely impossible situation since the angel means the projectiles would've create a massive hole in the ground - which they didn't..
In the second case of 1 projectile hit the stored weapons in UNRWA shelter and caused secondary explosions, the one to blame is Hamas for storing them, and IDF for firing knowingly civilians around, also note IDF did gave them time to evacuate..and also note this is possibly a misfired projectile as well.
I don't see where you going with this, but since we have no clear report so far, lets go by the odds, you tell me.

I'll tell you, you're a fuckin' liar!

Post the link or apologize to this board for wasting its bandwidth.