Israel destroys el-Wafa hospital as staff evacuates all patients
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Yes, the occupation of Gaza and other territories by Islamic terrorists has been a 37 year long problem.
So, you're now backtracking on your nonsensical "occupation" lie.
Good for you and May Allah bless you for that one bit of honesty you were forced to admit.
You are wrong! The occupation can only occur once it's been Occupied FROM someone, not just illegal aliens.
Indeependent
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Its not the fact, its the Nazis perspective of Billo so proud of when relating to Israel.
Billo you justify terrorists, I wouldn't call you a terrorist because that law doesn't apply in Gaza but I guess you know what I'm talking about.
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Ibentoken
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RoccoR
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Billo_Really, et al,
Hold on a minute.
This is so confusing. Am I to understand that HAMAS and the Gazians claim to be defending themselves? That is nonsense. HAMAS is the aggressor. It is their official position and has not changed since 1988. It is the Arab Palestinian habit to start a conflict or combat exchange, and when the tide turns against them, to suddenly claim that they were defending themselves against an unprovoked attack by the Israelis. It is no more true today, then it was in 1948 when the Arab League Armies invaded and attempted to eradicate the Israeli then.
Most Respectfully,
R
Hold on a minute.
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This is so confusing. Am I to understand that HAMAS and the Gazians claim to be defending themselves? That is nonsense. HAMAS is the aggressor. It is their official position and has not changed since 1988. It is the Arab Palestinian habit to start a conflict or combat exchange, and when the tide turns against them, to suddenly claim that they were defending themselves against an unprovoked attack by the Israelis. It is no more true today, then it was in 1948 when the Arab League Armies invaded and attempted to eradicate the Israeli then.
Hamas Covenant 1988 said:
- Hamas accepts 1967 borders, but will never recognize Israel, top official says
- Speaking to Palestinian news agency Ma'an, Mahmoud Zahar says recognition of Israel would deprive future Palestinian generations of the possibility to 'liberate' their lands.
- Hamas' official position paper on the destruction of Israel
- 5. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.
- 19. Any position or a political programs or tactical initiatives or must be in line with the Palestinian national principle that we have mentioned....therefore we reject any draft agreements or settlements that diminish those principles, principles affecting Palestinian national rights. There's more, including more about "resistance," but the point is that these principles have been clearly communicated before - the utter rejection of Israel or Jewish rights to any land now and forever and the decision never to abandon terrorism.
- Lapid: If Hamas accepts Israel, our position would change
- "If Hamas accepts the terms of the international community, the situation will change from our point of view," he said. (Finance Minister Yair Lapid reacted to the implication that Hamas would recognize Israel as part of a Fatah-Hamas unity government.)
In an additional interview with Israel Radio on Sunday morning, Lapid expanded on his terms for Hamas naming the three principles set up by the international community: Hamas must recognize Israel, renounce terrorism, and recognize past agreements between the PLO and Israel.
If Hamas accepts these terms, Lapid said, "the organization will no longer be Hamas, and we will have something to talk about, but at the moment we don't see that process happening."
- "If Hamas accepts the terms of the international community, the situation will change from our point of view," he said. (Finance Minister Yair Lapid reacted to the implication that Hamas would recognize Israel as part of a Fatah-Hamas unity government.)
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R
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Hossfly
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So Billo doesn't know anything about the rules of war either. It figures.
Indeependent
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Billo said himself today that war has no winners.
Unless, of course, Israel is the loser.
Israel will once again clean out most of the rats nest of Islamic terrorism that is Gaza. However, unless they deliver an overwhelming and humiliating defeat to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc., the whiny good-for-nothings in Gaza will just bend and scrape before the international community for more welfare dollars. They will eventually re-arm and resume shelling Israel with rockets as they have done for decades.
Israel is actively looking to destroy the Hamas tunnels (built with welfare dollars intended for food and humanitarian measures), which were constructed by Islamic terrorists to allow for murders and kidnapping of Israeli civilians and to hide weapons which were not otherwise being stored in UNWRA schools.
Ibentoken
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Hamas.......Hiding Among Mosques And Schools.
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Apparently, you don't understand English. Hamas fighters were planning to use the hospital to attack IDF forces. Such cowardice can only be attributable to Hamas, not to Israel. You simply cannot grasp the reality that Israel isn't what you think they are, nor is Hamas.
flacaltenn
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Wow.. You just rave on and make shit up.. Those rockets found in the UN facilities were not "HIT" by Israel.. The ******* UN found them when they went to prepare the grounds to take refugees from the fighting..
CHamas HIDING weapons on UN PROPERTY --- is what the "first time" reference was about. Had NOTHING to do with Israel or "bullshit excuses".. You need to get some control of that hate and anger before you melt totally down..
flacaltenn
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Yes --- it said Stop the Fighting -- NOW... "cooked up by the Israelis" my ass.
flacaltenn
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That's getting a bit over-dramatic ain't it Billo? Where do those tunnels go? And what is their primary use? It's to kidnap and kill Israel citizens while they sleep.. When YOUR tunnels come into MY YARD and my stuff starts to go missing --- I'm blowing your damn tunnels all the way back to their damn sources..
Billo_Really
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The tunnels are not for killing Israeli citizens, it's to keep their economy going under the illegal and immoral siege of Gaza. Gazans are completely cut off from the rest of the world. They don't deserve this. Those tunnels are the only way they can get fuel for their generators, medical supplies for their hospitals and food for their citizens.
If Israel ended the blockade, the tunnels would go away.
If I shot at you, you'd have every right to shoot back. But you don't have a right to encircle my property and prevent me from having access to the street. You do not have the right to tell me what I can (and cannot) have on my property. The only thing you have a right to do, is to tell me not to shoot at you, or you'll shoot back. But that's not the case here, because you're the one who's been shooting first.
Israeli missile attacks are more numerous and frequent than the rocket attacks.
Now, before I end this post, I need to tell you that I have done a little more research on whether or not a hospital can be targeted. I stated before that it couldn't be targeted under any conditions. I was wrong. If rockets are fired from the facility, it can be targeted. The qualifier is that it has to present an "imminent" threat to military forces, for it to be a legal target. Even in that case, there must be a certain amount of time to allow the hospital to vacate its patients from the premises.
However, that wasn't the case for the Wafa hospital. Rockets were fired from 100 meters away and Israeli authorities have admitted they knew the hospital had no weapons. Therefore, under the 4th Geneva Convention, it was illegal to target that hospital.
Billo_Really
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A ceasefire is the result of a negotiation between the two combatants.
This one only included one.
Billo_Really
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Quoted Post was in Zone2 violation.
More personal attacks in a zone 2 forum.
More personal attacks in a zone 2 forum.
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