Israel demands correction from Sanders,It only killed 532 Palestinian kids in summer 2014!

[Preacher]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

 

[Preacher]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

And 15,000 French civilians were killed in the Normandy invasion, so what's your point? Other than displaying your stupid ignorance that is.

1 was a war and the other is genocide.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

You need professional help. Just sayin'

 

[Coyote]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

Words utterly fail me.

 

[Coyote]

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

>>In many instances of confrontation between IDF forces and a terror suspect who has barricaded him or herself inside a building, neighbors who are either family from the same clan or friends can peacefully and effectively neutralize the situation, Kasher explained.

Neighbors often have a vested interest in preventing the IDF from destroying the building where the suspect is hiding because they live in the same building; relatives or loved ones also have a desire to save the terrorist’s life, Kasher explained.

“If they volunteer to do so of their own free will they should be allowed to,” said Kasher.<<


The use was banned in 2005

It's questionable whether they can volunteer of their own free will in such situations. They have been used in other situations as well. It was banned, but still happens, for example in this case, where the child was ordered to search bags suspected of holding bombs (2010) IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza

The case was a sham. I know a lot of officers around here and when they search a car or a bum they often have them empty out their own things. Its actually considered being kinda polite about it because if there was a weapon in the bag or vehicle the perp could try and conceal it or use it.

They were probably trying not to offend the little bastard who then cried wolf over it.

And say, Pumpkin, how does this relate to ole Bernie ? was it his duffle or something ?

The case was a conviction. You don't use children like that - it's called making them a human shield and the courts agreed. It's one of many cases. Sorry to disappoint you but the Israeli's share that in common with Hamas.

Ya...it was Bernie's duffle, got reported as lost luggage and ended up in Palestine.

I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a few incidents where civilians were ordered to do something later interpreted as dangerous but this particular incident wasn't it

This all started with a UN ( what a surprise ) report based off classic ultra left wing NGO accusations where ONLY Arab Muslims and ultra left winger NGO members were represented.

The Israeli court manuscripts are not easily found and until they are I'll withhold judgement until all the facts are known. The link is a news article, not the actual case itself.

Quote

An investigation into the incident was launched last July, after a United Nations report on children in armed combat brought the details of the event to the military police's attention.
The indictment also relied on a complaint filed by the Israeli chapter of the Defense for Children organization.
read more: IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza

End Quote

The simple reality is someone told the kid to open his bag so they could take a look and next thing you know every Arab Muslim in Israel is jumping up and down crying foul.

Another false equivalence in that its a far cry from hiding behind a group of kids while firing a shoulder launched rocket at the Israeli's

The courts rarely confict IDF soldiers, so I call B.S. on your claim. The fact that there was a conviction indicates pretty strong evidence. Has it been over turned? If not, then they were using human shields. Or shall we now also pretend Hamas doesn't either?

 

[Shusha]

The courts rarely confict IDF soldiers, so I call B.S. on your claim. The fact that there was a conviction indicates pretty strong evidence.

The fact that it was convicted is also an indication that the soldiers in question were not acting according to procedure, but individually, demonstrating that use of human shields is contrary to Israel's policy. At least in this particular case.

Sadly, I think the whole "neighbor procedure" has become just another way to sell Israel as "evil". Israel can't win in the court of public opinion no matter what they do. I DO believe that it was originally intended to save lives rather than sacrifice civilians or create human shields. Its pretty easy to see how a Gazan would see their house surrounded by IDF soldiers and think, "Hey, hey, wait a minute, who are you looking for? Okay, I'll go get him". What happens then? The target is arrested, and the house and all the people in it are safe. The alternative would be for the soldiers to breach the home with weapons and in the ensuing mess people, including innocents, might be caught in the cross fire and be killed. And the house gets wrecked or even bombed. It seems a reasonable idea to me.

Sadly, I can also see this being exploited. And yes, I can see why it would seem to be using human shields. However, it is interesting that only one volunteer/human shield was killed in all the instances where this was put to use, indicating to me that it was properly employed in a way that for the most part kept the "volunteers" safe.

I think the anti-Israel crowd has unrealistic expectations of what is possible to accomplish in a conflict of war where the combatants are not distinguishable from the civilian population, deliberately so (a war crime, btw) and where combatants hide themselves within and amongst the civilians. It must be exceedingly difficult to conduct such a war.

And yet, Israel has managed to be very restrained under such difficult circumstances and the number of dead in Gaza is shockingly low when comparisons are made to other real conflicts rather than to some impossible ideal that Israel seems to be held to.

 

[Shusha]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

well, anti-Semite white trash, the pals probably shouldn't use their children as human shields

pissant

Another supporter of child murderers. There were no human shields except for those the IDF used, just the usual Zionist propaganda.

"5) Hamas hides its weapons in homes, mosques and schools and uses human shields.

This is arguably one of Israel’s most insidious claims, because it blames Palestinians for their own death and deprives them of even their victimhood. Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 and in its war against Palestinians in 2008. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches, Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to storemilitary weapons. The two cases where Hamas indeed stored weapons inUNRWA schools, the schools were empty. UNRWA discovered the rockets and publicly condemned the violation of its sanctity.

International human rights organizations that have investigated these claims have determined that they are not true. It attributed the high death toll in Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks. Human Rights Watch notes:

The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.

In fact, only Israeli soldiers have systematically used Palestinians as human shields. Since Israel’s incursion into the West Bank in 2002, it has used Palestinians as human shields by tying young Palestinians onto the hoods of their cars or forcing them to go into a home where a potential militant may be hiding."

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

Hasn't been debunked, in fact the UN and many objective news agencies and reporters have confirmed, that Hamas uses schools, mosques, hospitals, hotels, residential buildings, etc. as shields. Same shit that ISIS and all the other barbaric Islamic jihadists do. But the difference is, Israel knows how to deal with these animals.

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Ga...
Daily Mail
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'.
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields ...
nypost.com/.../un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-a...
New York Post
May 2, 2015 - And in at least one school where weapons were stored, the report ... to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the ...
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ...
www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits.../380149/
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ... that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. ... by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into ...
Hamas Admits To Using Schools And Hospitals In Gaza As ...
nation.foxnews.com/.../hamas-admits-using-schools-and-hosp...
Fox Nation
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas appeared to admit using human shields to fire rockets into Israel for the first time today, but refused to accept responsibility for the ...

And let's not forget about all the children who died in Gaza building the tunnels. Why is it that we don't spend much time talking about them?

 

[jillian]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

well, anti-Semite white trash, the pals probably shouldn't use their children as human shields

pissant

Another supporter of child murderers. There were no human shields except for those the IDF used, just the usual Zionist propaganda.

"5) Hamas hides its weapons in homes, mosques and schools and uses human shields.

This is arguably one of Israel’s most insidious claims, because it blames Palestinians for their own death and deprives them of even their victimhood. Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 and in its war against Palestinians in 2008. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches, Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to storemilitary weapons. The two cases where Hamas indeed stored weapons inUNRWA schools, the schools were empty. UNRWA discovered the rockets and publicly condemned the violation of its sanctity.

International human rights organizations that have investigated these claims have determined that they are not true. It attributed the high death toll in Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks. Human Rights Watch notes:

The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.

In fact, only Israeli soldiers have systematically used Palestinians as human shields. Since Israel’s incursion into the West Bank in 2002, it has used Palestinians as human shields by tying young Palestinians onto the hoods of their cars or forcing them to go into a home where a potential militant may be hiding."

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

Hasn't been debunked, in fact the UN and many objective news agencies and reporters have confirmed, that Hamas uses schools, mosques, hospitals, hotels, residential buildings, etc. as shields. Same shit that ISIS and all the other barbaric Islamic jihadists do. But the difference is, Israel knows how to deal with these animals.

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Ga...
Daily Mail
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'.
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields ...
nypost.com/.../un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-a...
New York Post
May 2, 2015 - And in at least one school where weapons were stored, the report ... to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the ...
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ...
www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits.../380149/
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ... that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. ... by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into ...
Hamas Admits To Using Schools And Hospitals In Gaza As ...
nation.foxnews.com/.../hamas-admits-using-schools-and-hosp...
Fox Nation
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas appeared to admit using human shields to fire rockets into Israel for the first time today, but refused to accept responsibility for the ...

Even when Hamas admits to it themselves, the antisemites continue with their hatred and lies.

that's what makes them sad, pathetic, losers

 

[jillian]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

well, anti-Semite white trash, the pals probably shouldn't use their children as human shields

pissant

Another supporter of child murderers. There were no human shields except for those the IDF used, just the usual Zionist propaganda.

"5) Hamas hides its weapons in homes, mosques and schools and uses human shields.

This is arguably one of Israel’s most insidious claims, because it blames Palestinians for their own death and deprives them of even their victimhood. Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 and in its war against Palestinians in 2008. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches, Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to storemilitary weapons. The two cases where Hamas indeed stored weapons inUNRWA schools, the schools were empty. UNRWA discovered the rockets and publicly condemned the violation of its sanctity.

International human rights organizations that have investigated these claims have determined that they are not true. It attributed the high death toll in Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks. Human Rights Watch notes:

The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.

In fact, only Israeli soldiers have systematically used Palestinians as human shields. Since Israel’s incursion into the West Bank in 2002, it has used Palestinians as human shields by tying young Palestinians onto the hoods of their cars or forcing them to go into a home where a potential militant may be hiding."

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

Hasn't been debunked, in fact the UN and many objective news agencies and reporters have confirmed, that Hamas uses schools, mosques, hospitals, hotels, residential buildings, etc. as shields. Same shit that ISIS and all the other barbaric Islamic jihadists do. But the difference is, Israel knows how to deal with these animals.

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Ga...
Daily Mail
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'.
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields ...
nypost.com/.../un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-a...
New York Post
May 2, 2015 - And in at least one school where weapons were stored, the report ... to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the ...
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ...
www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits.../380149/
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ... that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. ... by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into ...
Hamas Admits To Using Schools And Hospitals In Gaza As ...
nation.foxnews.com/.../hamas-admits-using-schools-and-hosp...
Fox Nation
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas appeared to admit using human shields to fire rockets into Israel for the first time today, but refused to accept responsibility for the ...

And let's not forget about all the children who died in Gaza building the tunnels. Why is it that we don't spend much time talking about them?

because it doesn't suit the terrorist-supporters' purpose

 

[Roudy]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

One must ask, with friends like this, do the Palestinians need any enemies?

It isn't a stretch to say that many neo Nazis and White Supremacists and other garden variety antisemites are huuuuge supporters of the "Palestinian cause".

 

[aris2chat]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

One must ask, with friends like this, do the Palestinians need any enemies?

It isn't a stretch to say that many neo Nazis and White Supremacists and other garden variety antisemites are huuuuge supporters of the "Palestinian cause".

Many began in Egypt at the feet of the Nazis after the war.

 

[montelatici]

European Nazis support their ZioNazi brethren. You haven't been keeping up.

"Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch Freedom Party, is one of several far-right figures to have visited Israel and met hard-right ministers there. During one trip, Wilders met the foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, and spoke of Israel as a front line in the fight to counter Islam. "If Jerusalem falls," he warned, "Amsterdam and New York will be next."

This affiliation is great news for Europe's far-right parties, who seek to sanitise their image, and whose history of antisemitism has been a block to gaining mainstream acceptability. The Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a research group, has warned that far-right parties in Europe are on the rise in part because they've opportunistically buried antisemitism in favour of an apparently more palatable stance against Islam and Muslim migrants. How lucky for them that Jewish Israeli politicians are helping them with that."

Far-right Europeans and Israelis: this toxic alliance spells trouble | Rachel Shabi

 

[Roudy]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

You need professional help. Just sayin'

I think the thing is beyond "help".

 

[Roudy]

European Nazis support their ZioNazi brethren. You haven't been keeping up.

"Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch Freedom Party, is one of several far-right figures to have visited Israel and met hard-right ministers there. During one trip, Wilders met the foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, and spoke of Israel as a front line in the fight to counter Islam. "If Jerusalem falls," he warned, "Amsterdam and New York will be next."

This affiliation is great news for Europe's far-right parties, who seek to sanitise their image, and whose history of antisemitism has been a block to gaining mainstream acceptability. The Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a research group, has warned that far-right parties in Europe are on the rise in part because they've opportunistically buried antisemitism in favour of an apparently more palatable stance against Islam and Muslim migrants. How lucky for them that Jewish Israeli politicians are helping them with that."

Far-right Europeans and Israelis: this toxic alliance spells trouble | Rachel Shabi

Geert Wilders isn't a Nazi.

The antisemite is very busy with back up posts for Nazi Odorous. Looks like both are on the same page when it comes to Jews. LOL

 

[Roudy]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

One must ask, with friends like this, do the Palestinians need any enemies?

It isn't a stretch to say that many neo Nazis and White Supremacists and other garden variety antisemites are huuuuge supporters of the "Palestinian cause".

Many began in Egypt at the feet of the Nazis after the war.

Yes, in Egypt and in the Palestinian mandate, specifically when the Palestinian Nazi Mufti decided to continue his beloved Hitler's legacy.

 

[Coyote]

The courts rarely confict IDF soldiers, so I call B.S. on your claim. The fact that there was a conviction indicates pretty strong evidence.

The fact that it was convicted is also an indication that the soldiers in question were not acting according to procedure, but individually, demonstrating that use of human shields is contrary to Israel's policy. At least in this particular case.

Yes, they were not acting lawfully, the courts ruled on it decisively in 2005.

Sadly, I think the whole "neighbor procedure" has become just another way to sell Israel as "evil". Israel can't win in the court of public opinion no matter what they do. I DO believe that it was originally intended to save lives rather than sacrifice civilians or create human shields. Its pretty easy to see how a Gazan would see their house surrounded by IDF soldiers and think, "Hey, hey, wait a minute, who are you looking for? Okay, I'll go get him". What happens then? The target is arrested, and the house and all the people in it are safe. The alternative would be for the soldiers to breach the home with weapons and in the ensuing mess people, including innocents, might be caught in the cross fire and be killed. And the house gets wrecked or even bombed. It seems a reasonable idea to me.

This case was not a "good neighbor" one though.

Sadly, I can also see this being exploited. And yes, I can see why it would seem to be using human shields. However, it is interesting that only one volunteer/human shield was killed in all the instances where this was put to use, indicating to me that it was properly employed in a way that for the most part kept the "volunteers" safe.

Isn't one one too many? Especially if children are being asked?

I think the anti-Israel crowd has unrealistic expectations of what is possible to accomplish in a conflict of war where the combatants are not distinguishable from the civilian population, deliberately so (a war crime, btw) and where combatants hide themselves within and amongst the civilians. It must be exceedingly difficult to conduct such a war.

And yet, Israel has managed to be very restrained under such difficult circumstances and the number of dead in Gaza is shockingly low when comparisons are made to other real conflicts rather than to some impossible ideal that Israel seems to be held to.

I think that using human shields is simply wrong and children should never be asked to volunteer for it.

 

[aris2chat]

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

One must ask, with friends like this, do the Palestinians need any enemies?

It isn't a stretch to say that many neo Nazis and White Supremacists and other garden variety antisemites are huuuuge supporters of the "Palestinian cause".

Many began in Egypt at the feet of the Nazis after the war.

Yes, in Egypt and in the Palestinian mandate, specifically when the Palestinian Nazi Mufti decided to continue his beloved Hitler's legacy.

not just the mufti but Skorzeny set up the Werwulf in Egypt to carry on the "plan"

 

[Preacher]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

Words utterly fail me.

Is that a first time?

 

[Boston1]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

Would you be able to look a child in the eye and killl him Odium?

Bump.

Would you be able to Odium?

Missed that sorry. A jew yes. Hell any nonwhite yes. I see them as the enemy of my children and a threat to their lives and our races life. Its quite simple when you see things in that context.

An avowed racist, how primitive.

Well you'd fit right in with some of our Arab Muslims around here.

I'm guessing you couldn't care less about the subject matter and just intend on blithering on with the Nazi views ?

Something about Sanders getting the kill ratio numbers wrong

 

[Boston1]

>>In many instances of confrontation between IDF forces and a terror suspect who has barricaded him or herself inside a building, neighbors who are either family from the same clan or friends can peacefully and effectively neutralize the situation, Kasher explained.

Neighbors often have a vested interest in preventing the IDF from destroying the building where the suspect is hiding because they live in the same building; relatives or loved ones also have a desire to save the terrorist’s life, Kasher explained.

“If they volunteer to do so of their own free will they should be allowed to,” said Kasher.<<


The use was banned in 2005

It's questionable whether they can volunteer of their own free will in such situations. They have been used in other situations as well. It was banned, but still happens, for example in this case, where the child was ordered to search bags suspected of holding bombs (2010) IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza

The case was a sham. I know a lot of officers around here and when they search a car or a bum they often have them empty out their own things. Its actually considered being kinda polite about it because if there was a weapon in the bag or vehicle the perp could try and conceal it or use it.

They were probably trying not to offend the little bastard who then cried wolf over it.

And say, Pumpkin, how does this relate to ole Bernie ? was it his duffle or something ?

The case was a conviction. You don't use children like that - it's called making them a human shield and the courts agreed. It's one of many cases. Sorry to disappoint you but the Israeli's share that in common with Hamas.

Ya...it was Bernie's duffle, got reported as lost luggage and ended up in Palestine.

I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a few incidents where civilians were ordered to do something later interpreted as dangerous but this particular incident wasn't it

This all started with a UN ( what a surprise ) report based off classic ultra left wing NGO accusations where ONLY Arab Muslims and ultra left winger NGO members were represented.

The Israeli court manuscripts are not easily found and until they are I'll withhold judgement until all the facts are known. The link is a news article, not the actual case itself.

Quote

An investigation into the incident was launched last July, after a United Nations report on children in armed combat brought the details of the event to the military police's attention.
The indictment also relied on a complaint filed by the Israeli chapter of the Defense for Children organization.
read more: IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza

End Quote

The simple reality is someone told the kid to open his bag so they could take a look and next thing you know every Arab Muslim in Israel is jumping up and down crying foul.

Another false equivalence in that its a far cry from hiding behind a group of kids while firing a shoulder launched rocket at the Israeli's

The courts rarely confict IDF soldiers, so I call B.S. on your claim. The fact that there was a conviction indicates pretty strong evidence. Has it been over turned? If not, then they were using human shields. Or shall we now also pretend Hamas doesn't either?

Again I'd have to read the court record before I'd be willing to say either way. My take thus far would be that it was ultra bias UN and ultra left wing NGOs that pressured the court.

Just look at whats going on with the soldier who shot the terrorist reaching for a detonator.