Israel demands correction from Sanders,It only killed 532 Palestinian kids in summer 2014!

[montelatici]

The Israelis control Gaza as the British controlled Derry. The British sent in troops (at great risk) to capture IRA combatants, they did not bomb apartment buildings housing families killing hundreds of women and children at a pop. That is how civilized societies handle these types of situations. I am always surprised how some consider Palestinian children more disposable than other children.

No children are disposable - whether they are the child targets of Hamas terrorists or children bombed on a beach during an offensive. Once you start dehumanizing one another, children cease to be children. That's why I wonder if Odium could look a child in the eye and kill him.

What do you think of Odium's remarks on genocide?

Odium is odious.

 

[Boston1]

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

The same UN reports cite crimes by Hamas - are they to be likewise disregarded?

One of the articles discuss high court rulings on the use of human shields.

Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields

The Israeli high court yesterday ruled that the army's long-standing practice of using Palestinian civilians as human shields in combat is illegal under international law. It said the military's claim to have amended the procedure to allow civilians to "volunteer" to work with the army was still unacceptable because it was unlikely anyone would freely do so.

"You cannot exploit the civilian population for the army's military needs, and you cannot force them to collaborate," said the Israeli chief justice, Aharon Barak. "Based on this principle, we rule it illegal to use civilians as human shields."


The case was brought more than three years ago by human rights organisations that said the army routinely forced Palestinian civilians into dangerous situations as a means to protect soldiers. Some of the most common methods were to force Palestinians into buildings to see if they were booby-trapped, or to enter the hideouts of wanted men and tell them to surrender. Soldiers also forced civilians to stand in front of them when on patrol.


At least one human shield was killed, and others have been wounded. Nidal Daraghmeh, a 19-year-old Palestinian student, was shot dead after troops forced him to knock on the door of a wanted Hamas fugitive and shooting broke out.


Seven Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups told the court the use of civilians in any capacity in military operations breached the Geneva conventions.
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I have a Bernie Sanders Pumpkin Pie reciepe somewhere....

I think Bernie would condemn the use of human sheilds by both Israel and by Hamas. That's the kind of guy I think he is. Decent. Not something that can be said of many politicians.

I think Bernie would as well, which is why he's got my vote.

But I swear if Bernie does not win the nod I'm writing a letter to the DNC and voting Trump just to teach them a lesson for fudging the delegates. Every poll has him ahead in the popular vote.

Bernie won something like 56% to 44% Wyoming but the delegates ( not super delegates mind you ) went 7 and 11 for Clinton.

I call BS

 

[member]

When accused of killing 1,000´s of Palestinian children, Israel reacted by saying that´s a Lie we only killed 532. they still said it with a straight face

"Palestinian children..."

The first thing that comes to mind with them is:

As they grow up, I hope they're not brainwashed. Brainwashed into being deranged terrorist nutjobs....(you know, hoping they don't follow in the hoofsteps of their fathers, uncles, and the rest of everybody else around town)....

.

 

[montelatici]

I hope that they won't be brainwashed.

 

[Boston1]

Whatcha got there Monty ole Been ?

And does it have anything to do with Bernie ?

 

[Hollie]

I hope that they won't be brainwashed.

Oh now, Monty. This is another cut and paste you dump multiple times into multiple threads.

Have you heard of "context"? No?

Well, the two images are of completely different context.

Have you heard of fraud? Yes?

Well, attempting to compare the two images in terms of some twisted Monty-fabricated moral equivalence is fraud.

But then, someone has to be a Monty.

 

[member]

It's wrong to condone the outright slaughter of anyone group of people, especially children. That's why you supporters of Israel are such a disgusting bunch. You support and justify the slaughter of hundreds of children at a time using high tech weapons we Americans pay for.

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Same ole song.....



what right do "World known terrorists from "Palestine" (yeah them) have, to shoot rockets into Israel (peoples backyards) unprovoked ? No right. you know that's what they do on the Palestinian side....shoot rockets and things over, unprovoked to kill people.

If they would only...give it up - you know the TERRORISM and all. What is it about Terrorists that you don't understand ? Where ever they dwell, there's ugliness....are you that fucking dense that you don't get what KIND of people you are dealing with. Don't you understand ? TERRORISTS are the Palestinian people's GOVERNMENTAL body........TERRORISTS have a different thought process goin' on: Death, 24/7 you stupid idiot.

 

[Coyote]

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

The same UN reports cite crimes by Hamas - are they to be likewise disregarded?

One of the articles discuss high court rulings on the use of human shields.

Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields

The Israeli high court yesterday ruled that the army's long-standing practice of using Palestinian civilians as human shields in combat is illegal under international law. It said the military's claim to have amended the procedure to allow civilians to "volunteer" to work with the army was still unacceptable because it was unlikely anyone would freely do so.

"You cannot exploit the civilian population for the army's military needs, and you cannot force them to collaborate," said the Israeli chief justice, Aharon Barak. "Based on this principle, we rule it illegal to use civilians as human shields."


The case was brought more than three years ago by human rights organisations that said the army routinely forced Palestinian civilians into dangerous situations as a means to protect soldiers. Some of the most common methods were to force Palestinians into buildings to see if they were booby-trapped, or to enter the hideouts of wanted men and tell them to surrender. Soldiers also forced civilians to stand in front of them when on patrol.


At least one human shield was killed, and others have been wounded. Nidal Daraghmeh, a 19-year-old Palestinian student, was shot dead after troops forced him to knock on the door of a wanted Hamas fugitive and shooting broke out.


Seven Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups told the court the use of civilians in any capacity in military operations breached the Geneva conventions.
​

I have a Bernie Sanders Pumpkin Pie reciepe somewhere....

I think Bernie would condemn the use of human sheilds by both Israel and by Hamas. That's the kind of guy I think he is. Decent. Not something that can be said of many politicians.

I think Bernie would as well, which is why he's got my vote.

But I swear if Bernie does not win the nod I'm writing a letter to the DNC and voting Trump just to teach them a lesson for fudging the delegates. Every poll has him ahead in the popular vote.

Bernie won something like 56% to 44% Wyoming but the delegates ( not super delegates mind you ) went 7 and 11 for Clinton.

I call BS

Crap...how can we disagree so much and vote for the same person? The whole delegate thing is confusing - it's like a highschool math test.

 

[Boston1]

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

The same UN reports cite crimes by Hamas - are they to be likewise disregarded?

One of the articles discuss high court rulings on the use of human shields.

Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields

The Israeli high court yesterday ruled that the army's long-standing practice of using Palestinian civilians as human shields in combat is illegal under international law. It said the military's claim to have amended the procedure to allow civilians to "volunteer" to work with the army was still unacceptable because it was unlikely anyone would freely do so.

"You cannot exploit the civilian population for the army's military needs, and you cannot force them to collaborate," said the Israeli chief justice, Aharon Barak. "Based on this principle, we rule it illegal to use civilians as human shields."


The case was brought more than three years ago by human rights organisations that said the army routinely forced Palestinian civilians into dangerous situations as a means to protect soldiers. Some of the most common methods were to force Palestinians into buildings to see if they were booby-trapped, or to enter the hideouts of wanted men and tell them to surrender. Soldiers also forced civilians to stand in front of them when on patrol.


At least one human shield was killed, and others have been wounded. Nidal Daraghmeh, a 19-year-old Palestinian student, was shot dead after troops forced him to knock on the door of a wanted Hamas fugitive and shooting broke out.


Seven Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups told the court the use of civilians in any capacity in military operations breached the Geneva conventions.
​

I have a Bernie Sanders Pumpkin Pie reciepe somewhere....

I think Bernie would condemn the use of human sheilds by both Israel and by Hamas. That's the kind of guy I think he is. Decent. Not something that can be said of many politicians.

I think Bernie would as well, which is why he's got my vote.

But I swear if Bernie does not win the nod I'm writing a letter to the DNC and voting Trump just to teach them a lesson for fudging the delegates. Every poll has him ahead in the popular vote.

Bernie won something like 56% to 44% Wyoming but the delegates ( not super delegates mind you ) went 7 and 11 for Clinton.

I call BS

Crap...how can we disagree so much and vote for the same person? The whole delegate thing is confusing - it's like a highschool math test.

I'm not sure we disagree as much as all that. The deal is I don't blame the Israeli's for defending themselves against an obvious aggressor.

You simply don't see the Arab Muslims as being the obvious aggressor

IMHO

YUR WRONG ;--)

 

[Shusha]

Why don't the Israelis stop attacking Gaza?

Nice dodge.

I'll answer. But let's hear your response to my question.

 

[Preacher]

Ah the simple minds of Israel lovers...they even try to justify the SLAUGHTER of children. Yet they want us to feel sorry for the holohoax where supposedly 6 million jews died....I don't feel a damn bit sorry I am just sorry it wasn't EVERY JEW!

You're disgusting. My dad's whole family were wiped out. May you go to Hell.

Sureeeeee they were. He just HAPPENED to escape alive eh? To bad.

 

[aris2chat]

you can see the jetty and smoke where the boys were playing and the man carrying one boy away from it.

Kids were right next to the naval compound not in the main area of the civilian beach.

that mile was only a few feet. Kids should not have been by the bobbed wire and storage buildings of the compound

First you claimed hamas was using kids as human shields
Now you claim kids were in fault playing next to some barbed wires

This was a good demonstration... Thank you...

And your evidence to counter the claims covered by the evidence is what, the words of some islamonazi propagandist. Read the posts again and you will see that hamas is deliberately placing terrorist posts next to where children will play and hotel's housing foreign journalists. The parents of the children should have kept their children well away from the compound, and made noises to the journalists so they would report the crimes against humanity taking place.

You find it so much easier to just fall back on your brainwashing and blame Israel for everything

You find it so much easier to just fall back on your brainwashing and blame Palestinian civilians for everything...

And you are not even aware of it...

Ironic, innit???

Still no evidence to support your claims, but then did I ever expect any.

What is ironic is you never have any answers so have to parrot to get out of the hole

Breaking the Silence › Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories

It is just sad to see Israel to become just like one of them...
But my expectations were too high to begin with, I guess...

Been refuted.
Breaking the Silence: More Rumor & Hearsay

yet again some prefer the disinformation

 

[aris2chat]

Israel demands correction from Sanders: it killed only 532 Palestinian children in summer 2014

Damn you Sanders ya got the number to high they ONLY murdered 532 kids!

well, anti-Semite white trash, the pals probably shouldn't use their children as human shields

pissant

Another supporter of child murderers. There were no human shields except for those the IDF used, just the usual Zionist propaganda.

"5) Hamas hides its weapons in homes, mosques and schools and uses human shields.

This is arguably one of Israel’s most insidious claims, because it blames Palestinians for their own death and deprives them of even their victimhood. Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 and in its war against Palestinians in 2008. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches, Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to storemilitary weapons. The two cases where Hamas indeed stored weapons inUNRWA schools, the schools were empty. UNRWA discovered the rockets and publicly condemned the violation of its sanctity.

International human rights organizations that have investigated these claims have determined that they are not true. It attributed the high death toll in Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks. Human Rights Watch notes:

The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.

In fact, only Israeli soldiers have systematically used Palestinians as human shields. Since Israel’s incursion into the West Bank in 2002, it has used Palestinians as human shields by tying young Palestinians onto the hoods of their cars or forcing them to go into a home where a potential militant may be hiding."

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

Hasn't been debunked, in fact the UN and many objective news agencies and reporters have confirmed, that Hamas uses schools, mosques, hospitals, hotels, residential buildings, etc. as shields. Same shit that ISIS and all the other barbaric Islamic jihadists do. But the difference is, Israel knows how to deal with these animals.

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Ga...
Daily Mail
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'.
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields ...
nypost.com/.../un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-a...
New York Post
May 2, 2015 - And in at least one school where weapons were stored, the report ... to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the ...
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ...
www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits.../380149/
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas ... that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. ... by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into ...
Hamas Admits To Using Schools And Hospitals In Gaza As ...
nation.foxnews.com/.../hamas-admits-using-schools-and-hosp...
Fox Nation
Sep 12, 2014 - Hamas appeared to admit using human shields to fire rockets into Israel for the first time today, but refused to accept responsibility for the ...

 

[aris2chat]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

>>In many instances of confrontation between IDF forces and a terror suspect who has barricaded him or herself inside a building, neighbors who are either family from the same clan or friends can peacefully and effectively neutralize the situation, Kasher explained.

Neighbors often have a vested interest in preventing the IDF from destroying the building where the suspect is hiding because they live in the same building; relatives or loved ones also have a desire to save the terrorist’s life, Kasher explained.

“If they volunteer to do so of their own free will they should be allowed to,” said Kasher.<<


The use was banned in 2005

 

[Humanity]

Why don't you look it up and get it from the horses mouth

I did!

Better the horses mouth than the horses arse!!!

Looks like you failed again Phoney!

Link?

Why don't you look it up and get it from the horses mouth

What do you want a link for exactly Roodboy?

Proof that Phoney fails again? Just read his posts!!!

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Ah the simple minds of Israel lovers...they even try to justify the SLAUGHTER of children. Yet they want us to feel sorry for the holohoax where supposedly 6 million jews died....I don't feel a damn bit sorry I am just sorry it wasn't EVERY JEW!

You're disgusting. My dad's whole family were wiped out. May you go to Hell.

Sureeeeee they were. He just HAPPENED to escape alive eh? To bad.

Yes, of course they were. His two sisters, a brother-in-law and a niece were hidden by a Righteous Gentile for awhile. The Gentile said that the little girl used to ask, "Why can't I go outside like the cats do?" Eventually they were discovered and killed. The little girl was smashed against a tree. One of my 2 aunts committed suicide rather than being raped.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Meanwhile, my dad's parents and little brother were sent to a nearby death camp where they all died. My dad was only 17 at the time. He was able to hide and then escape to Russia where he became a soldier and fought the Nazis (like you are). He would choke up whenever he spoke of his family. As for you, you will burn in Hell for all Eternity with your friend Hitler.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

PS
Coyotes are not vermin, they are an important part in the ecosystem. When I owned the ranch I used to leave the coyotes alone. I just built better chicken coups. The horses didn't care one but and in foaling season I never had any problems. I did bring the little ones in, but I never lost one.

My neighbors on the other hand, fought tooth and nail with the coyotes and left their fences in disrepair. I'll give you one guess as to who had predation losses and who didn't. ;--)

The concept of vermin is way outdated. Everything is an essential part of the whole.

Internet coyotes can be pests tho...just ask around

I do love coyotes. A few weeks ago, they were singing out in the fields. What a wild and wicked and enchanting chorus they made

I better bring this back around to the topic though....hmmm

I oppose coyote genocide!

I spend summers away from my business guiding in Yellowstone. I'll be out 14 weeks this year in the back country.

But don't worry, I have a satellite connection ;--)

I'm sure Monty has supported the Hamas view over and over, which is an avowed genocidal view

I have never supported Hamas, nor the murder of children of any religion. You, on the other hand, support and justify the murder of children as long as they are not Jewish.

And yet, you had nothing to say about someone who called for the murder of all Jews, and attacked a Jew who objected to those comments because she had lost family members in the Holocaust. If you aren't an antisemite I don't know what is. Funny part is they are so mentally ill they don't even realize what they are.

I am male.

 

[Boston1]

Why don't you look it up and get it from the horses mouth

I did!

Better the horses mouth than the horses arse!!!

Looks like you failed again Phoney!

Link?

Why don't you look it up and get it from the horses mouth

What do you want a link for exactly Roodboy?

Proof that Phoney fails again? Just read his posts!!!

Looks like Inhumanity is back

And still can't post on topic.

What a surprise.

Say, you wouldn't happen to know anything about the topic would you ? The fact that Sanders admitted he didn't know the numbers and just kinda fired from the hip ? That Israel offered the real numbers which were actually pretty good all things considered

The problem is that while some of us are pretty good shots. ( I'm damn handy with a riffle there flag boy ) some might just miss and hit those smug little bastards hanging out next to the terrorist. Either way the shot would be justified as there's an armed enemy combatant threatening civilian lives.

This is exactly why Israel needs to toughen up and employ the geneva conventions. Throw out the UNRWA, round up the hostiles and throw the bums out.

 

[montelatici]

Still reveling in murdering children, aren't you Boston. By the way, what is "smug" about those kids you want to murder? Disgusting little murderous punk that you are.