Isn't it time you yanks grew up regarding your gun death epidemic?

[Levant]

Over 2/3 of those are suicides and suicide is a choice not a crime.

I'm surprised at the left; they're lovers of death at the beginning of life and at the end of life

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-aid-in-dying/2020/01/28/c8b980dc-413e-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html

 

[Levant]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

 

[katsteve2012]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

 

[Levant]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

You mean to say that you lied, then? Because defensive, invited, presence is not conquest. Once again... Back to that foundation of military conquest.. If it is our foundation you should be able to find some military conquest in the first 50 years, or hundred years, right? I mean it's our very foundation.

 

[justinacolmena]

fire extinguishers and insurance.
Barry gutted the top brass in the military and replaced them with his stooges.

What's that thing on the wall? Pull the pin and squeeze the handle? They call those things grenades in the military, and when the Civil Air Patrol or the fire brigade shows up for a mental health crisis, they throw flash-bang grenades into the building if they can't gas the patients unconscious first for an involuntary mental health evaluation for fitness for duty and gun rights etc.

That's why the left took out all that life insurance shit with double indemnity for accidental death and all that crap on a political premise of progressive gun control and legal weed.

And now there are Democrat, Socialist, and Communist operatives throughout all ranks in the military left over from the Obama administration --- and they outed all the conservatives and exposed secret double agents like Valerie Plame on that unclassified SAP Oracle database at the OPM under Katherine Archuleta.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

I'd wager a small amount you're a college student.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Banning sporting rifles will do nothing to stop gun violence.
If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.

Well intended but wrong. If they want to stop gun violence, they would put criminals in prison, in miserable conditions, and for long periods of time, until criminals fear prison so much that they don't commit crimes. I'm sure you don't really mean to suggest that the left is right in trying to stop violence through banning handguns.

Well obviously yeah.
Be we know that ain't gonna happen in liberal land.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Leftists want to disarm them NOT to prevent gun deaths but for OTHER sinister motives

That's silly.

Venezuela banned all firearms about 6 or 7 years ago and look where they are now.

Yeah, and then they intentionally tanked their economy by manipulating the world oil market. Makes all the sense in the world.

They knew the shit they were about to pull would likely end up with armed resistance.
Witch of course is the same reason dems want guns banned.

Comparing Democrats to what Chavez did in Venezuela is just plain silly. Enough horseshit.

How can you know that when we still have our guns?
And with the way you freaks acted during the corona spamdemic only enforces my point.
You're all a bunch of wanna be dictators.

You. Are. A. Nut.

You ignored my post about mag size and how most hunting rifles are designed for a limited number of bullets at a time. The one Markel showed above, the top rifle is a 5 + 1. The bottom gun is "dressed up" for warfare. If it's a 5 + 1, I'll be surprised. I couldn't find what it is--an AR maybe? You can buy 30 round mags for an AR, and more if you want.

The second amendment wasnt written for hunting rifles. It was written to protect the right to own guns designed to kill people.

Of course. That is what all guns are for. And like I already said, times change. There is no way in hell the citizens of this country could withstand attack by our government armed with their AR's and hunting rifles. That is the most laughable argument of all. The Founders did not want a standing army because they did not want the central government having control of a military force they could use against the people. Well, guess what? If they wanted to, they sure as hell could now. Even if we had machine guns, it wouldn't matter.

The Second Amendment was written in a different time, long ago, and no longer applies for any of the reasons it was written.

You really shouldn't embarrass yourself by posting ridiculous shit like this.

You have to take into consideration she didnt know that Isopropyl alcohol was flammable and deadly to drink.
Or how there's fire involved in bananas foster.
And to think she's a teacher....

LIAR. I wasn't putting two and two together about fucking rubbing alcohol being highly flammable but the rest is a lie. Keep it honest, HWGA.

You flat out said you didnt know what caused banana flambe to burn.

Your nose is going to get so long you trip over it. Watch out. It was cherries jubilee, anyway, and I'm the one who thought of it.

What.....40 years after the fact when someone made you think?

 

[katsteve2012]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

I'd wager a small amount you're a college student.

You would lose that "small amount". I likely graduated from college before you were even born.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

I'd wager a small amount you're a college student.

You would lose that "small amount". I likely graduated from college before you were even born.

Most unlikely.

 

[DrLove]

But mostly universal BG checks which 90% of Americans and 60% of NRA members support should be a no-brainer.

Background checks for what? To see if they're covered under the "shall not be infringed" clause of the 2nd Amendment?

If you're a convicted felon, you have NO right to own a gun. And straw buyers and private sellers at gun shows (legal in over half our states) have NO right to sell you one. It is MY right to make sure your access is greatly restricted.

90% of US voters concur.

Can a convicted felon then buy one from crooks on the street? Yes, but it makes such access riskier and more difficult.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

"Civilized society". Umm, No.

 

[justinacolmena]

I'd wager a small amount you're a college student.

You would lose that "small amount". I likely graduated from college before you were even born.

Whether people are "college educated" or not, they need to be punished out of their vices of accepting or extorting monetary tips for vice, and further punished into a proper Respect for the the right of the people -- each and every one of us -- to keep and bear Arms, that is, to possess and carry firearms, according to the Second Amendment.

Gun control is vice, and just as for alcoholism we need to call upon a higher power to punish our government into compliance with our Constitution, until they have yielded up the power to destroy and ruin our lives with their arbitrary rules and corrupt court proceedings in vicious red-light districts of vice, prostitution, alcoholism, and "legal" marijuana.

 

[katsteve2012]

Facts don't lie, but you're talking about a country that was built on a foundation of military conquest, war and a love affair with firearms.

Military conquest? Yeah, we were the bad guys and the Japanese and the Germans (twice) were the good guys. As were the Soviet Union, the GDR.

Just which military conquests are you referring to?

Where did I assign the status of "good guys or bad guys"?

Acting as the "world's police", requires a larger military than average.

What other country in the world has had more of a military presence in foreign countries than America?

You mean to say that you lied, then? Because defensive, invited, presence is not conquest. Once again... Back to that foundation of military conquest.. If it is our foundation you should be able to find some military conquest in the first 50 years, or hundred years, right? I mean it's our very foundation.

No. YOU are saying that I lied.

What is a military conquest?

"Conquest is the act of military subjugation of an enemy by force of arms"

Subjugation is to "bring under control".

 

[OldLady]

None of the things you seem to object to make a gun any more dangerous.

They make the gun more efficient and easy to use so more people can be shot more efficiently, more quickly.

 

[progressive hunter]

None of the things you seem to object to make a gun any more dangerous.

They make the gun more efficient and easy to use so more people can be shot more efficiently, more quickly.

aint it great,,,

only commie pricks need fear them,,,

 

[DrLove]

Gun related deaths per 100,000 population.

USA 12.21
UK 0.23

France 2.83
Canada 2.00
Sweden 1.6
Italy 1.31
Germany 1.17
Australia 0.9
Japan 0.6
Spain 0.31

With a population of 333546000 in the USA. That works out at 40,000 gun deaths per annum.

Coronavirus deaths in comparison work out at 98,000,- true that is more than twice as many, but gun deaths happen every year. Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

Too late on a total gun ban. That horse left the barn years ago. STILL, 100% mental, criminal background checks and possible reinstatement of the assault-style weapon ban is a possibility - Junior $hrub pretty much blew it on that one.

Nobody is gonna grab the AR-15s and such, but buyback programs have been fairly successful in some cities here, and in other countries like Australia. Clip/ Mag capacity limits are also a possibility that should be examined.

But mostly universal BG checks which 90% of Americans and 60% of NRA members support should be a no-brainer.

We've already got background checks. That's not going to do anything.

Nonsense IMHO OL. MANY mass murderers obtained their guns from straw buyers or sell directly to felons in states that allow private sellers to do so at gun shows without a BG check. Despite the denials from barrel strokers, it's a fact. Half the states still allow this moonbattery. Additionally, you can go to armslist.com and do the same thing to this day.

Okay. I still don't think it's the biggest solution to our problem, and I'm certainly not going to be pacified by it. Has the Navy even begun reporting their violent convictions to the database yet? Do we have the data from all the states? I see it as a panacea. It's not enough.

I don't disagree. Yes, our database (including military felony convictions) must be nationalized.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Gun related deaths per 100,000 population.

USA 12.21
UK 0.23

France 2.83
Canada 2.00
Sweden 1.6
Italy 1.31
Germany 1.17
Australia 0.9
Japan 0.6
Spain 0.31

With a population of 333546000 in the USA. That works out at 40,000 gun deaths per annum.

Coronavirus deaths in comparison work out at 98,000,- true that is more than twice as many, but gun deaths happen every year. Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

A typically misleading claim you make, you failed to post the link, you failed to notice the words gun RELATED deaths, which obviously means Suicides are part of that number, thus make a misleading claim. You clearly didn't read the FBI Crime stats for America at all, which means your claims is probably from some gun hating fringe group.

You left out other metrics completely, such as rate of fire arm ownership, the rate of drug use in nations and so on.

Your dishonest attempt is noted.

 

[Markle]

If you're a convicted felon, you have NO right to own a gun. And straw buyers and private sellers at gun shows (legal in over half our states) have NO right to sell you one. It is MY right to make sure your access is greatly restricted.

90% of US voters concur.

Can a convicted felon then buy one from crooks on the street? Yes, but it makes such access riskier and more difficult.

You must have forgotten to include your reliable source and working link to the poll, survey, or whatever you used to support your statement that, "90% of US voters concur" that it is your RIGHT to make sure that my access to a weapon is greatly restricted.

If someone buys and sells guns at a gun show, they must do background checks.

 

[Levant]

But mostly universal BG checks which 90% of Americans and 60% of NRA members support should be a no-brainer.

Background checks for what? To see if they're covered under the "shall not be infringed" clause of the 2nd Amendment?

If you're a convicted felon, you have NO right to own a gun. And straw buyers and private sellers at gun shows (legal in over half our states) have NO right to sell you one. It is MY right to make sure your access is greatly restricted.

90% of US voters concur.

Can a convicted felon then buy one from crooks on the street? Yes, but it makes such access riskier and more difficult.

Can you point to that in the Constitution? For 149 years, it was well understood that government had no such authority as to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. Then it was slipped in in 1938 for violent felons and then, 179 years post-ratification, for the rest of felons. Then later for some misdemeanors, and coming soon, for more misdemeanors - but it's unconstitutional.

What felons buying guns on the street really does is create a black market for stolen guns on the street. It does nothing to stop them from getting guns.

And you have no right to stop another person from exercising their rights.