CDZ Islamification of The West

[Dhara]

This parade/march is the Islamic equivalent of Christmas parade. The birth of the prophet Mohammed vs the birth of Jesus Christ at Christmas.

 

[Dhara]

When Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) announced it was launching a UK franchise, many waited with baited breath to see whether the German-born movement could muster the same show of strength in the UK which had provided its namesake’s notoriety. Specifically, it has been the German Pegida’s ability to draw crowds numbering in the tens of thousands which placed the movement squarely in the spotlight, combined with a new form of far right activism which saw a shift from thuggish gangs to the presence of families and women coming together to oppose the so-called “Islamicisation of Europe”.

British punditry was quick to deride the small show of a few hundred people marching through the rain by Birmingham train station on a cold February morning. There has long been a sense of British exceptionalism when it comes to the far right, particularly when compared with other European countries. The French National Front won record numbers of votes and historic firsts in local and regional elections last year and is set to make the second round of the 2017 presidential election. In Greece, one of Europe’s most violent far-right parties, Golden Dawn, came third in the September’s general election, while even more traditionally resilient to fascism Nordic countries, including Finland and Denmark, have seen the growth of the political representation of far-right parties at the polls.

In Britain, the BNP is a largely redundant party, while efforts by other far-right parties, such as Britain First, have failed to garner much public support. Meanwhile UKIP’s Nigel Farage has played on the very same register which has seen the far-right rise to prominence elsewhere, notably a fear of immigrants and a disdain for the EU.
- See more at: Pegida UK: Mainstreaming the far right with mums and prams

 

[DarkFury]

OP

Are you a PEGIDA member?

A country ANY country has the RIGHT to limit immigration as set by the people OF that country. Unless you live there you have no say nor a right to such.

 

[Dhara]

OP

Are you a PEGIDA member?

A country ANY country has the RIGHT to limit immigration as set by the people OF that country. Unless you live there you have no say nor a right to such.

ANTI-ISLAM ORGANIZATION PEGIDA IS EXPORTING HATE ACROSS EUROPE

Leading the charge in Britain is Tommy Robinson, founder and former leader of notorious far-right street group the English Defence League (EDL). Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon , is now heading up PEGIDA’s fledgling U.K. group. Sitting in a pub on the outskirts of Luton, a town northwest of London, he tells Newsweek he has been misunderstood. “I’m not far-right. I’m just opposed to Islam. I believe it’s backward and it’s fascist,” Robinson, 33, says. “The current refugee crisis is nothing to do with refugees. It’s a Muslim invasion of Europe.”

Robinson has a lot of work to do to repair his reputation. From the group’s founding in 2009 to 2013, Robinson and the EDL staged semiregular demonstrations in several British towns and cities. The EDL leadership always said it was running a peaceful, democratic protest movement opposed only to Islamic ideology. But whatever its stated intentions, angry crowds, often drunk, would turn up at the group’s marches and cause havoc. Videos posted by the Guardian in 2010 showed young men attacking police at an EDL rally in the town of Stoke-on-Trent. One video showed supporters elsewhere shouting racist abuse about people of South Asian origin. EDL protests, which sometimes drew as many as 2,000 supporters, were often marked by violent clashes with anti-fascist groups.
http://www.newsweek.com/anti-islam-organization-pegida-exporting-hate-across-europe-426805

 

[Coyote]

"... He forbade killing and any form of terrorism or oppression, and gave equal rights to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.”


Lol.
Btw, does anyone see any women?

And it's Blackburn, not London, folks.

It's kind of like the difference between Christ and his followers today. A disconnect.

 

[saveliberty]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

 

[Dale Smith]

When Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) announced it was launching a UK franchise, many waited with baited breath to see whether the German-born movement could muster the same show of strength in the UK which had provided its namesake’s notoriety. Specifically, it has been the German Pegida’s ability to draw crowds numbering in the tens of thousands which placed the movement squarely in the spotlight, combined with a new form of far right activism which saw a shift from thuggish gangs to the presence of families and women coming together to oppose the so-called “Islamicisation of Europe”.

British punditry was quick to deride the small show of a few hundred people marching through the rain by Birmingham train station on a cold February morning. There has long been a sense of British exceptionalism when it comes to the far right, particularly when compared with other European countries. The French National Front won record numbers of votes and historic firsts in local and regional elections last year and is set to make the second round of the 2017 presidential election. In Greece, one of Europe’s most violent far-right parties, Golden Dawn, came third in the September’s general election, while even more traditionally resilient to fascism Nordic countries, including Finland and Denmark, have seen the growth of the political representation of far-right parties at the polls.

In Britain, the BNP is a largely redundant party, while efforts by other far-right parties, such as Britain First, have failed to garner much public support. Meanwhile UKIP’s Nigel Farage has played on the very same register which has seen the far-right rise to prominence elsewhere, notably a fear of immigrants and a disdain for the EU.
- See more at: Pegida UK: Mainstreaming the far right with mums and prams

Dhara, there are certain cultures that do not mix and when one becomes more dominant than the other because of ideologies and how they conflict? It doesn't work and it will never work. Would it be wise to introduce grizzly bears into the wilds of Africa? Would that make any sense at all? I have seen the youtube videos of radical muslims that have been shipped into European countries and they are being allowed to take over. There are certain parts of London that the cops will not even go into because they get attacked by these middle eastern muslims. Not every culture can mix and merge and to think so is pollyanna thinking and it's not gonna end well for all concerned.

 

[Coyote]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

 

[Dhara]

Thanks Dale,

My point is this. Since the UK allows Muslims to live in it's borders they ought to be treated the same as any other citizens.

They are already there. What's your solution?

Dhara

 

[Coyote]

When Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) announced it was launching a UK franchise, many waited with baited breath to see whether the German-born movement could muster the same show of strength in the UK which had provided its namesake’s notoriety. Specifically, it has been the German Pegida’s ability to draw crowds numbering in the tens of thousands which placed the movement squarely in the spotlight, combined with a new form of far right activism which saw a shift from thuggish gangs to the presence of families and women coming together to oppose the so-called “Islamicisation of Europe”.

British punditry was quick to deride the small show of a few hundred people marching through the rain by Birmingham train station on a cold February morning. There has long been a sense of British exceptionalism when it comes to the far right, particularly when compared with other European countries. The French National Front won record numbers of votes and historic firsts in local and regional elections last year and is set to make the second round of the 2017 presidential election. In Greece, one of Europe’s most violent far-right parties, Golden Dawn, came third in the September’s general election, while even more traditionally resilient to fascism Nordic countries, including Finland and Denmark, have seen the growth of the political representation of far-right parties at the polls.

In Britain, the BNP is a largely redundant party, while efforts by other far-right parties, such as Britain First, have failed to garner much public support. Meanwhile UKIP’s Nigel Farage has played on the very same register which has seen the far-right rise to prominence elsewhere, notably a fear of immigrants and a disdain for the EU.
- See more at: Pegida UK: Mainstreaming the far right with mums and prams

Dhara, there are certain cultures that do not mix and when one becomes more dominant than the other because of ideologies and how they conflict? It doesn't work and it will never work. Would it be wise to introduce grizzly bears into the wilds of Africa? Would that make any sense at all? I have seen the youtube videos of radical muslims that have been shipped into European countries and they are being allowed to take over. There are certain parts of London that the cops will not even go into because they get attacked by these middle eastern muslims. Not every culture can mix and merge and to think so is pollyanna thinking and it's not gonna end well for all concerned.

Videos are a snapshot in time...with no context. Are they representative of a larger trend or - just a sensationalist scene that goes viral?

The idea of "no go zones" in London is one of those not so accurate claims that has gone viral.

 

[Dhara]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

Exactly. The OP argument is the same argument use in the anti-gay movementt. LGBT are a threat to the UK and should not be allowed equal rights.

 

[DarkFury]

OP

Are you a PEGIDA member?

A country ANY country has the RIGHT to limit immigration as set by the people OF that country. Unless you live there you have no say nor a right to such.

ANTI-ISLAM ORGANIZATION PEGIDA IS EXPORTING HATE ACROSS EUROPE

Leading the charge in Britain is Tommy Robinson, founder and former leader of notorious far-right street group the English Defence League (EDL). Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon , is now heading up PEGIDA’s fledgling U.K. group. Sitting in a pub on the outskirts of Luton, a town northwest of London, he tells Newsweek he has been misunderstood. “I’m not far-right. I’m just opposed to Islam. I believe it’s backward and it’s fascist,” Robinson, 33, says. “The current refugee crisis is nothing to do with refugees. It’s a Muslim invasion of Europe.”

Robinson has a lot of work to do to repair his reputation. From the group’s founding in 2009 to 2013, Robinson and the EDL staged semiregular demonstrations in several British towns and cities. The EDL leadership always said it was running a peaceful, democratic protest movement opposed only to Islamic ideology. But whatever its stated intentions, angry crowds, often drunk, would turn up at the group’s marches and cause havoc. Videos posted by the Guardian in 2010 showed young men attacking police at an EDL rally in the town of Stoke-on-Trent. One video showed supporters elsewhere shouting racist abuse about people of South Asian origin. EDL protests, which sometimes drew as many as 2,000 supporters, were often marked by violent clashes with anti-fascist groups.
http://www.newsweek.com/anti-islam-organization-pegida-exporting-hate-across-europe-426805

The hate is growing across Europe for many good solid reasons.
1, The Paris attacks
2, The Brussels attacks
3, The rapes in Germany

You cannot place ignorant 7th century savages in the modern world and expect it to work. These people are so ignorant that Germans have had to put up signs mot to crap in the showers or piss in the streets.

The average IQ for a Somali is in the mid 70s, that is BARELY above a retard. The average IQ for a German citizen is 103. So just based on genetics you are demanding the lowering of German IQ to about the mid 80s and you expect them to be happy about that?

The refugees lack education and basic social skills plus morals and ethics. THAT is why they are savages. NO Euro country OR America is accountable for their mass retardation. Islam is.

 

[saveliberty]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

It will happen, it has every other place this has been tried. It is happening here in the US, less than 25 miles from where I am sitting right now. We see it growing, eventually it will boil over and the feds will have to respond.

 

[Dhara]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

What is of more concern is the backlash movement that counters their fear mongering "Islamitization" claim.

It's fascism. Don't these folks realize terrorists win when the UK becomes unrecognizable as a democracy if certain ethnicities and religions are banned?

 

[Dale Smith]

When Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) announced it was launching a UK franchise, many waited with baited breath to see whether the German-born movement could muster the same show of strength in the UK which had provided its namesake’s notoriety. Specifically, it has been the German Pegida’s ability to draw crowds numbering in the tens of thousands which placed the movement squarely in the spotlight, combined with a new form of far right activism which saw a shift from thuggish gangs to the presence of families and women coming together to oppose the so-called “Islamicisation of Europe”.

British punditry was quick to deride the small show of a few hundred people marching through the rain by Birmingham train station on a cold February morning. There has long been a sense of British exceptionalism when it comes to the far right, particularly when compared with other European countries. The French National Front won record numbers of votes and historic firsts in local and regional elections last year and is set to make the second round of the 2017 presidential election. In Greece, one of Europe’s most violent far-right parties, Golden Dawn, came third in the September’s general election, while even more traditionally resilient to fascism Nordic countries, including Finland and Denmark, have seen the growth of the political representation of far-right parties at the polls.

In Britain, the BNP is a largely redundant party, while efforts by other far-right parties, such as Britain First, have failed to garner much public support. Meanwhile UKIP’s Nigel Farage has played on the very same register which has seen the far-right rise to prominence elsewhere, notably a fear of immigrants and a disdain for the EU.
- See more at: Pegida UK: Mainstreaming the far right with mums and prams

Dhara, there are certain cultures that do not mix and when one becomes more dominant than the other because of ideologies and how they conflict? It doesn't work and it will never work. Would it be wise to introduce grizzly bears into the wilds of Africa? Would that make any sense at all? I have seen the youtube videos of radical muslims that have been shipped into European countries and they are being allowed to take over. There are certain parts of London that the cops will not even go into because they get attacked by these middle eastern muslims. Not every culture can mix and merge and to think so is pollyanna thinking and it's not gonna end well for all concerned.

Videos are a snapshot in time...with no context. Are they representative of a larger trend or - just a sensationalist scene that goes viral?

The idea of "no go zones" in London is one of those not so accurate claims that has gone viral.

Yeaaaah, keep thinking that if it makes you sleep better at night. There are hundreds of youtube videos showing these "guests" being less than gracious.

 

[Dhara]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

It will happen, it has every other place this has been tried. It is happening here in the US, less than 25 miles form where I am sitting right now. We see it growing, eventually it will boil over and the feds will have to respond.

What will boil over? Fascism?

 

[saveliberty]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

What is of more concern is the backlash movement that counters their fear mongering "Islamitization" claim.

It's fascism. Don't these folks realize terrorists win when the UK becomes unrecognizable as a democracy if certain ethnicities and religions are banned?

You don't choose the lesser of two evils. Rejecting one problem does not mean I support the other problem.

 

[Dhara]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

What is of more concern is the backlash movement that counters their fear mongering "Islamitization" claim.

It's fascism. Don't these folks realize terrorists win when the UK becomes unrecognizable as a democracy if certain ethnicities and religions are banned?

You don't choose the lesser of two evils. Rejecting one problem does not mean I support the other problem.

You reject freedom of religion in the US? You think Islam should be banned?

 

[Coyote]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

What is of more concern is the backlash movement that counters their fear mongering "Islamitization" claim.

It's fascism. Don't these folks realize terrorists win when the UK becomes unrecognizable as a democracy if certain ethnicities and religions are banned?

You don't choose the lesser of two evils. Rejecting one problem does not mean I support the other problem.

I don't view Islam itself as an evil. It's what it's followers do with it that causes problems - and the Muslims are as varied as any other religion.

 

[saveliberty]

Islamification means equality goes out the window. Seems like there were gays killed and hung out as reminders of how that would be tolerated by ISIS. If it were simply a matter of celebrating a birth and religion it would be one thing. This comes with a whole set of anti western civilization aspects. Sorry Dhara, you are going to have to choose Islam or LBGT on this one, not both.

Islamification - by that definition is not occurring - it's all fear-mongering and xenophobia. You do not have to choose Islam or LBGT, you can chose both as long as they obey the laws of the land, which are based on western values. Christians have to do it, even if they don't like it

It will happen, it has every other place this has been tried. It is happening here in the US, less than 25 miles form where I am sitting right now. We see it growing, eventually it will boil over and the feds will have to respond.

What will boil over? Fascism?

Subjugation of women, LBGT elimination, relocation of Christians and all that goes with "extremist" Islam.