Islamic State: The Terror We Give is the Terror We Get

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"We fire missiles from the sky that incinerate families huddled in their houses. They incinerate a pilot cowering in a cage.

"We torture hostages in our black sites and choke them to death by stuffing rags down their throats.

"They torture hostages in squalid hovels and behead them.

"We organize Shiite death squads to kill Sunnis.

"They organize Sunni death squads to kill Shiites.

"We produce high-budget films such as 'American Sniper' to glorify our war crimes.

"They produce inspirational videos to glorify their twisted version of jihad.

The barbarism we condemn is the barbarism we commit.

"The line that separates us from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is technological, not moral.

"We are those we fight."

Chris Hedges The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get -Truthdig

"We are those we fight," and soon that fight will reach our homeland.

Do you feel safer today than you did in March 2003?
 

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Interesting take, sooooo, what you're (via the article) claiming is we are responsible for all acts of terrorism, that those acts are only a response to what we do and there are no other causative factors........ no other origins......
I'm sure you'll find some other delusional people to believe this, try the conspiracy theory section, they wear tinfoil hats also. :thup:
 
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Interesting take, sooooo, what you're (via the article) claiming is we are responsible for all acts of terrorism, that those acts are only a response to what we do and there are no other causative factors........ no other origins......
I'm sure you'll find some other delusional people to believe this, try the conspiracy theory section, they wear tinfoil hats also. :thup:
Terror serves the interest of war mongers on all sides as you prove with virtually every post. Maybe tinfoil is the least of your problems?
 

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Interesting take, sooooo, what you're (via the article) claiming is we are responsible for all acts of terrorism, that those acts are only a response to what we do and there are no other causative factors........ no other origins......
I'm sure you'll find some other delusional people to believe this, try the conspiracy theory section, they wear tinfoil hats also. :thup:
Terror serves the interest of war mongers on all sides as you prove with virtually every post. Maybe tinfoil is the least of your problems?
I disagree with your premise as presented and suddenly I'm a war monger........

No folks, ya can't make this shit up!!!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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AKA -- incredibly stupid terrorist supporter posts his 23,696th consecutive piece of drivel towards that end.
"'From violence, only violence is born,' Primo Levi wrote, 'following a pendular action that, as time goes by, rather than dying down, becomes more frenzied.'”
IOW, you're NOT exceptional.
You're brainwashed and proud of it.
Chris Hedges The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get -Truthdig
It becomes more frenzied until one side is exterminated...our goal in to not be that side. Fuck the muzzies.
 

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"'From violence, only violence is born,' Primo Levi wrote, 'following a pendular action that, as time goes by, rather than dying down, becomes more frenzied.'”
IOW, you're NOT exceptional.
You're brainwashed and proud of it.
Chris Hedges The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get -Truthdig
Let's see here -- you are the one who keeps spamming other people's words in your desperate attempt to justify terrorist acts perpetrated because of an ideology born in the 7th century and then re-energized in the early part of the 20th century, and you try to claim I am the one who is brainwashed?

What kind of utter fool would actually believe all the Islamist propaganda crafted that attempts to place the effect as the cause and the cause as the effect, anyway?

BTW -- That was a rhetorical question, you blithering idiot. We already know the answer.
 

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As we all can see Obama's plan to kiss their ass, apologize, preface every statement with Islam is the religion of peace, release many from Gitmo, bow to their leaders, downplay the U.S. Role in the world so as not to be seen as a superpower, shun Israel, need I go on? How is that working? How did these tactics work leading up to WWII? Hiding in our hemisphere is not the answer. One side will prevail. All you self loathing liberals think we can open dialog with these savages. They understand one thing, dominance, an iron fist.


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It becomes more frenzied until one side is exterminated...our goal in to not be that side. Fuck the muzzies.
IS has carved a caliphate the size of Texas from Syria and Iraq. While it lacks the ability to invade and occupy Jordan and Saudi Arabia, its continued existence empowers "Muzzies" living under collapsing economies in those countries to stoke internal upheavals. All of these evils trace back to an illegal war of aggression launched in March 2003. Extinction isn't an option for ending the terror unleashed by the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm sure you believe American Exceptionalism provides an excu$e for more ma$$ murder in the Middle East?
 

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It becomes more frenzied until one side is exterminated...our goal in to not be that side. Fuck the muzzies.
IS has carved a caliphate the size of Texas from Syria and Iraq. While it lacks the ability to invade and occupy Jordan and Saudi Arabia, its continued existence empowers "Muzzies" living under collapsing economies in those countries to stoke internal upheavals. All of these evils trace back to an illegal war of aggression launched in March 2003. Extinction isn't an option for ending the terror unleashed by the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm sure you believe American Exceptionalism provides an excu$e for more ma$$ murder in the Middle East?
When did 911 happen? What happened in 1993? No matter...if we did start something, we need to finish it. Stop whining...you sound like obama.
 

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Interesting take, sooooo, what you're (via the article) claiming is we are responsible for all acts of terrorism, that those acts are only a response to what we do and there are no other causative factors........ no other origins......
I'm sure you'll find some other delusional people to believe this, try the conspiracy theory section, they wear tinfoil hats also. :thup:
You actually believe if we didn't have a foreign policy that meddled in the Saudi Arabia, gave millions in foreign aid to Israel to create an Apartheid State, and funded a clandestine black ops drug running war and the attendant war lords in South East Asia that these problems would have occurred? Are you seriously this misinformed?


 

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It becomes more frenzied until one side is exterminated...our goal in to not be that side. Fuck the muzzies.
IS has carved a caliphate the size of Texas from Syria and Iraq. While it lacks the ability to invade and occupy Jordan and Saudi Arabia, its continued existence empowers "Muzzies" living under collapsing economies in those countries to stoke internal upheavals. All of these evils trace back to an illegal war of aggression launched in March 2003. Extinction isn't an option for ending the terror unleashed by the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm sure you believe American Exceptionalism provides an excu$e for more ma$$ murder in the Middle East?
Now this is extremely telling........ It's your contention that history (specifically for the region under discussion) didn't start until 2003.........? That there aren't other factors (to primarily include internal tribal relations) that are more causative.........? Okie-dokie........
 
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As we all can see Obama's plan to kiss their ass, apologize, preface every statement with Islam is the religion of peace, release many from Gitmo, bow to their leaders, downplay the U.S. Role in the world so as not to be seen as a superpower, shun Israel, need I go on? How is that working?
It's working as planned for those who get rich from oil wars:
"In (Wesley) Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran."

Can you spot the pattern?
"Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World??
Wesley Clark - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 

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Interesting take, sooooo, what you're (via the article) claiming is we are responsible for all acts of terrorism, that those acts are only a response to what we do and there are no other causative factors........ no other origins......
I'm sure you'll find some other delusional people to believe this, try the conspiracy theory section, they wear tinfoil hats also. :thup:
You actually believe if we didn't have a foreign policy that meddled in the Saudi Arabia, gave millions in foreign aid to Israel to create an Apartheid State, and funded a clandestine black ops drug running war and the attendant war lords in South East Asia that these problems would have occurred? Are you seriously this misinformed?


Oh great, another myopic moron who failed HS history and never actually studied the cultures of the area but still feels informed enough to comment on the subject......... Your tin foil hat is slipping sideways, ya need to straighten it out.
 

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It becomes more frenzied until one side is exterminated...our goal in to not be that side. Fuck the muzzies.
IS has carved a caliphate the size of Texas from Syria and Iraq. While it lacks the ability to invade and occupy Jordan and Saudi Arabia, its continued existence empowers "Muzzies" living under collapsing economies in those countries to stoke internal upheavals. All of these evils trace back to an illegal war of aggression launched in March 2003. Extinction isn't an option for ending the terror unleashed by the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm sure you believe American Exceptionalism provides an excu$e for more ma$$ murder in the Middle East?
Now this is extremely telling........ It's your contention that history (specifically for the region under discussion) didn't start until 2003.........? That there aren't other factors (to primarily include internal tribal relations) that are more causative.........? Okie-dokie........

The entire premise of these morons is akin to them telling us that thunder creates lightening.

They are too stupid to understand cause and effect, and so simplify the world down to a level that matches their ability to understand it. In that world, we are the source of all the world's ills, and so they will support anything that stands against us. They are merely projecting their own considerable inadequacies upon their entire culture, of course, as it is easier for them to wallow in this pitiful degree of sympathizing with Islamist terrorists than it is to actually take any steps to improve themselves in any way.
 

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The means never justifies the end. The means just are exactly what they are. In this case, no matter what the intention American leadership has, they are unleashing unspeakable horror around the world.
 

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"We fire missiles from the sky that incinerate families huddled in their houses. They incinerate a pilot cowering in a cage.

"We torture hostages in our black sites and choke them to death by stuffing rags down their throats.

"They torture hostages in squalid hovels and behead them.

"We organize Shiite death squads to kill Sunnis.

"They organize Sunni death squads to kill Shiites.

"We produce high-budget films such as 'American Sniper' to glorify our war crimes.

"They produce inspirational videos to glorify their twisted version of jihad.

The barbarism we condemn is the barbarism we commit.

"The line that separates us from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is technological, not moral.

"We are those we fight."

Chris Hedges The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get -Truthdig

"We are those we fight," and soon that fight will reach our homeland.

Do you feel safer today than you did in March 2003?
Obama and his drone strikes are only making more terrorists
 

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It's working as planned for those who get rich from oil wars:
"In (Wesley) Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran."

Can you spot the pattern?
"Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World??
Wesley Clark - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I can definitely spot the pattern here.

Little Georgie has never experienced so much as a single original thought in his young life so resorts to endless cut and pastes that reflect upon his sympathy for Islamists. Deep down, he feels that he is worthless excuse for a human being and that pisses him off to no end, so he wraps up all his resentment, bitterness and self-hatred into one, giant invective against the entirety of the culture in which he lives.

It's really quite pitiful to witness.
 
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Now this is extremely telling........ It's your contention that history (specifically for the region under discussion) didn't start until 2003.........? That there aren't other factors (to primarily include internal tribal relations) that are more causative.
US meddling in the internal tribal relations of oil producing states in the Middle East began long before 2003:
"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

"'Persian oil ... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.[7]'"
If you're aware of any causative factors relating to the instability of the Middle East since the end of WWII that trump US imperial interests, feel free to list them.
United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 

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