ISIS/Mossad: Dialysis?

[Abishai100]

ISIS and Mossad are two well-known organizations devoted more or less to the 'defense' of nationalistic if controversial political ideas/ideals.

However, ISIS is considered more or less to be illegal to the Western world, while Mossad is considered to be more or less legal.

Is this differentiation clear?

Does 'vigilantism romanticism' complicate this discussion?


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ISIS: We vindicate those killed by Western bias.
MOSSAD: We are funded by defenders.
ISIS: One can not defend an ideal if one is biased.
MOSSAD: No one is free from bias; defense is based on education.
ISIS: We are educated.
MOSSAD: Your tactics reveal you are crude.
ISIS: Guerrilla warfare is not always 'refined.'
MOSSAD: Refinement comes from diligence.
ISIS: How can one be diligent while being a 'pet'?
MOSSAD: Religious groups deserve a peaceful public forum.
ISIS: Sometimes 'favors' have to be wrought from governments.
MOSSAD: There's a difference between vigilantism and romanticism.

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[Dogmaphobe]

I see no comparison between the two and find the one being proposed as entirely fallacious.

Their behavior is not similar, their goals are not similar, their ideology is not similar, and their purpose is not similar.

 

[GLASNOST]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

 

[320 Years of History]

"ISIS/Mossad: Dialysis?"

What has "dialysis" to do with Mossad or ISIS?

Does 'vigilantism romanticism' complicate this discussion?

No, not really. The title complicates the discussion more than anything else.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

Mossad is the apparatus of a Nation state, so any rational comparison would be to M.I.6, the C.I.A. or other similar agencies.

The op is attempting to compare apples to oranges, here, for some unknown reason.

 

[GLASNOST]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

Mossad is the apparatus of a Nation state, so any rational comparison would be to M.I.6, the C.I.A. or other similar agencies.

The op is attempting to compare apples to oranges, here, for some unknown reason.

Well, I assume hes saying that MOSSAD and ISIS are both terrorist organizations, whether they be apparatuses of nation states or classified as terrorist groups by another nation state, or not. How would you classify the PLO or HAMAS?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

Mossad is the apparatus of a Nation state, so any rational comparison would be to M.I.6, the C.I.A. or other similar agencies.

The op is attempting to compare apples to oranges, here, for some unknown reason.

Well, I assume hes saying that MOSSAD and ISIS are both terrorist organizations, whether they be apparatuses of nation states or classified as terrorist groups by another nation state, or not. How would you classify the PLO or HAMAS?

Calling Mossad a terrorist group is stupid.

As to your question, Fatah is no longer a terrorist organization, but Hamas is.

 

[GLASNOST]

Calling Mossad a terrorist group is stupid.

As to your question, Fatah is no longer a terrorist organization, but Hamas is.

FIRST: No, it is not stupid. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it.

SECOND: Mossad has committed acts of terrorism, mostly in the form of Black Flag operations.

THIRD: Fatah is, Fatah isn't .... Hamas is, Hamas isn't. You've provided the proof yourself that an organization can be called Terrorists by some, but not by others.

 

[GLASNOST]

Furthermore, Hamas is the governing authority of the Gaza Strip, thus it is the apparatus of a Nation state.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Calling Mossad a terrorist group is stupid.

As to your question, Fatah is no longer a terrorist organization, but Hamas is.

FIRST: No, it is not stupid. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it.

SECOND: Mossad has committed acts of terrorism, mostly in the form of Black Flag operations.

THIRD: Fatah is, Fatah isn't .... Hamas is, Hamas isn't. You've provided the proof yourself that an organization can be called Terrorists by some, but not by others.

The word "terrorism" has an actual meaning. You are obviously too ignorant to know such a meaning so you toss it around willy nilly whenever convenient.

You need to get away from the antisemitic hate sites and learn a little something, instead.

 

[GLASNOST]

The word "terrorism" has an actual meaning.

It has several meanings depending upon who you ask. Israel calls anyone who makes public protest against Israel (verbally or otherwise) a terrorist. The United Snakes will incorporate the term terrorist to include any organisation that criticizes the US and/or Israel ... and whenever that's not possible the US will call it (or you) a terrorist supporter/sympathizer. You're not very smart, are you.

You need to get away from the antisemitic hate sites and learn a little something, instead.

You need to get away from the Islamophobic hate sites and learn a little something about people, the world, and life. I have travelled the world, including Israel and several Moslem countries. You haven't a tenth of the experience as I ..... so I guess you're fucked.

You are obviously too ignorant to know such a meaning so you toss it around willy nilly whenever convenient.

And you are obviously an ass with an agenda but without an understanding of Middle East affairs. This was a discussion until you lost control of your hate, rampant ignorance, and inferior complex. What are you going to do now, Bonzo?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Damn, I miss the days when Swedes were known for being pragmatic, reasonable and measured instead of blathering idiots just ranting about anything that comes off the top of their stupid, little heads.

 

[Lastamender]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

Mossad is the apparatus of a Nation state, so any rational comparison would be to M.I.6, the C.I.A. or other similar agencies.

The op is attempting to compare apples to oranges, here, for some unknown reason.

When it comes to Islamists that is all you are left with. Nothing compares to a religion that has standing orders to fight kill and terrorize until they dominate the world.

 

[Lastamender]

The word "terrorism" has an actual meaning.

It has several meanings depending upon who you ask. Israel calls anyone who makes public protest against Israel (verbally or otherwise) a terrorist. The United Snakes will incorporate the term terrorist to include any organisation that criticizes the US and/or Israel ... and whenever that's not possible the US will call it (or you) a terrorist supporter/sympathizer. You're not very smart, are you.

You need to get away from the antisemitic hate sites and learn a little something, instead.

You need to get away from the Islamophobic hate sites and learn a little something about people, the world, and life. I have travelled the world, including Israel and several Moslem countries. You haven't a tenth of the experience as I ..... so I guess you're fucked.

You are obviously too ignorant to know such a meaning so you toss it around willy nilly whenever convenient.

And you are obviously an ass with an agenda but without an understanding of Middle East affairs. This was a discussion until you lost control of your hate, rampant ignorance, and inferior complex. What are you going to do now, Bonzo?

You need to stop using the word "Islamophobic" fear of Islam is very real, and even more so in the ME.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I think the main difference between them is that Mossad hasn't yet figured out how to remove the cap from the camera lens.

Mossad is the apparatus of a Nation state, so any rational comparison would be to M.I.6, the C.I.A. or other similar agencies.

The op is attempting to compare apples to oranges, here, for some unknown reason.

When it comes to Islamists that is all you are left with. Nothing compares to a religion that has standing orders to fight kill and terrorize until they dominate the world.

A hundred years ago, the term "Mohammadism" was more in style, and IMO, that provides a better insight to what this is all about. I mean, here you had a ruthless warlord whose very business involved invading people's lands, killing the men, taking what was theirs, raping the women and taking them as sex slaves. The creation of this "religion" was simply the warlord's way of investing in himself a sense of ultimate power as the so-called prophet of god. It was geared towards keeping his murderous warriors tightly bound to him as unquestioning instruments of his agenda.

The only thing that prevented this particular warlord from disappearing into the dust bin of history is the creed he created that was carried forth by his unquestioning followers who continues his murderous rampage after his death.

 

[GLASNOST]

You need to stop using the word "Islamophobic" fear of Islam is very real, and even more so in the ME.

When you consider that I was accused of aspiring to antisemitic hate, pointing out that he is an Islamaphobe seems appropriate. Don't you think so too?

 

[Lastamender]

You need to stop using the word "Islamophobic" fear of Islam is very real, and even more so in the ME.

When you consider that I was accused of aspiring to antisemitic hate, pointing out that he is an Islamaphobe seems appropriate. Don't you think so too?

Calling someone an Islamophobe makes no sense. The word is invalid. It was created to intimidate critics of Islam. Jew hated is real and is proven by history. Islamophobia can make no such claim. Fear of Islam has been real since the religions inception.

 

[GLASNOST]

Calling someone an Islamophobe makes no sense.......

Did it make sense to call me a supporter of antisemitism?

The word is invalid. It was created to intimidate critics of Islam. Jew hated is real and is proven by history. Islamophobia can make no such claim. Fear of Islam has been real since the religions inception.

You don't really think you are qualified to give me a lesson on the subject.

 

[Lastamender]

Calling someone an Islamophobe makes no sense.......

Did it make sense to call me a supporter of antisemitism?

The word is invalid. It was created to intimidate critics of Islam. Jew hated is real and is proven by history. Islamophobia can make no such claim. Fear of Islam has been real since the religions inception.

You don't really think you are qualified to give me a lesson on the subject.

I don't see why not.

 

[GLASNOST]

When you consider that I was accused of aspiring to antisemitic hate, pointing out that he is an Islamaphobe seems appropriate. Don't you think so too ?

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Did it make sense to call me a supporter of antisemitism ?

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