Is Trump really a successful businessman

[Mac1958]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

 

[Correll]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

i've hardly heard anyone referencing that. that was the type of thing that was relevant, when he had no actual record to examine.


now, we have his first term to discuss. going back to his background, is pretty....odd.

 

[hjmick]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

Haven't you heard? Any time he has tried anything, he was the greatest to ever do it, he has never ever failed at anything, ever. Believe it. And he's the smartest person, ever, his intellect is huge. Just ask him... he'll tell you...

 

[rightwinger]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

Trump made his money on the TRUMP brand. Selling the rights to use the TRUMP name.

The TRUMP name used to signify exclusiveness and high quality. Now it has become a political statement. People will patronize or refuse to patronize due to their feelings about Trump. Ruling out over half the population.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

Fucking libtard! Read his FEC financial statement. It is all there, dumbass!

 

[Mac1958]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

Fucking libtard! Read his FEC financial statement. It is all there, dumbass!

No, it isn't.

 

[JLW]

Trump was saved from financial oblivion by two interventions:

1. Russian oligarch money.

2. Mark Burnett picking Trump for The Apprentice.

To Trump’s credit and the nation’s detriment he leveraged these two factors to the Presidency.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

Fucking libtard! Read his FEC financial statement. It is all there, dumbass!

No, it isn't.

How the fuck do you know? You obviously never read it!

 

[kaz]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

What does your therapist say?

 

[my2¢]

Although I could have done without the last couple of chapters concerning Trump's presidency, I wasn't disappointed in reading Mary Trump's Too Much and Never Enough. My interest in the book fell upon Trump's dad and the business the old man built. The entire rest of the family comes across as without backbone and simply entitled to the old man's money. Especially this niece of Donald's (Mary) who constantly complains about her dad Freddy coming out on the short end of the stick.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

So did his siblings. Are they all worth billions?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

Haven't you heard? Any time he has tried anything, he was the greatest to ever do it, he has never ever failed at anything, ever. Believe it. And he's the smartest person, ever, his intellect is huge. Just ask him... he'll tell you...

Any time he has tried anything, he was the greatest to ever do it

He did beat the most qualified candidate ever the first time he ran for elected office.

 

[Mac1958]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

So did his siblings. Are they all worth billions?

I don't know. Did Daddy give them the same amount of money? Did Daddy give them the same connections and influence? Were they trying to become as personally wealthy as possible, or did they have other priorities?

What a shallow question you ask.

 

[Shelzin]

I don't know. Did Daddy give them the same amount of money? Did Daddy give them the same connections and influence? Were they trying to become as personally wealthy as possible, or did they have other priorities?

What a shallow question you ask.

I agree with your assertion here... We don't know. I think it's likely, but that isn't here nor there to what Trump has done. It doesn't mean anything to the opening OP.

The whole topic is that Trump is a successful business man, not the rest of his family. Taking millions and then multiplying it to billions suggests to me that he is.

Agreed?

 

[Mac1958]

I don't know. Did Daddy give them the same amount of money? Did Daddy give them the same connections and influence? Were they trying to become as personally wealthy as possible, or did they have other priorities?

What a shallow question you ask.

I agree with your assertion here... We don't know. I think it's likely, but that isn't here nor there to what Trump has done. It doesn't mean anything to the opening OP.

The whole topic is that Trump is a successful business man, not the rest of his family. Taking millions and then multiplying it to billions suggests to me that he is.

Agreed?

If that's what he has in fact done. I don't know for sure.

So I think the question posed by the OP is legitimate.

 

[Shelzin]

If that's what he has in fact done. I don't know for sure.

So I think the question posed by the OP is legitimate.

Ok. What business of his has succeeded? None as the OP suggests? One, two? Does the OP or yourself know?

Wouldn't it make sense to find out BEFORE making the statement? Does it matter if his successes outweigh his failures?

Let me be clear on my point... Hate, bigotry, racism and the like makes people stupid.

Working backwards from a conclusion rather than evidence to support one is undermining the argument. It actually HURTS the stance that Trump is a bad business man.

It might be a legitimate question, but neither the OP or yourself has actually addressed if he is one or not. You've just used "orange man bad"

He took millions and made them into billions. But he's a bad business man. How do you reconcile that?

While the OP may or may not be able to create a decent argument on the topic, I KNOW you are capable of it should the evidence be there. That's how you help the OP. Not by agreeing Orange Man Bad, but by actually do the work he can't or won't to support the stance.

If you want to help get Trump out of office you either show evidence to support that he's a bad business man, or you shut the topic down so we don't talk about it. Because this conversation sure as hell ain't hurting Trump at all.

 

[Mac1958]

If that's what he has in fact done. I don't know for sure.

So I think the question posed by the OP is legitimate.

Ok. What business of his has succeeded? None as the OP suggests? One, two? Does the OP or yourself know?

Wouldn't it make sense to find out BEFORE making the statement? Does it matter if his successes outweigh his failures?

Let me be clear on my point... Hate, bigotry, racism and the like makes people stupid.

Working backwards from a conclusion rather than evidence to support one is undermining the argument. It actually HURTS the stance that Trump is a bad business man.

It might be a legitimate question, but neither the OP or yourself has actually addressed if he is one or not. You've just used "orange man bad"

He took millions and made them into billions. But he's a bad business man. How do you reconcile that?

While the OP may or may not be able to create a decent argument on the topic, I KNOW you are capable of it should the evidence be there. That's how you help the OP. Not by agreeing Orange Man Bad, but by actually do the work he can't or won't to support the stance.

If you want to help get Trump out of office you either show evidence to support that he's a bad business man, or you shut the topic down so we don't talk about it. Because this conversation sure as hell ain't hurting Trump at all.

Not being fond of this man doesn't mean that the best I can do is say "Orange Man Bad" or that I have TDS.

I have long since given up trying to discuss him with Trumpsters, because I'm tired of asymmetrical conversations.

 

[Shelzin]

Not being fond of this man doesn't mean that the best I can do is say "Orange Man Bad" or that I have TDS.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. It's why I'm asking you to do it.

I have long since given up trying to discuss him with Trumpsters, because I'm tired of asymmetrical conversations.

I went way out of my way to explain the problem... This isn't about you helping or hurting "Trumpsters"

By supporting this you are actually hurting your end goals of getting Trump out of office. Please read the post again, without expecting that I'm attacking you. That's not my goal.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

His supporters keep claiming he's really good at business but is he really. Everything he's tried has gone belly up. Casinos, Trump University, Trump wines, Trump meats, Trump tailored vitamins, football team and even a Trump Airline it seems..The Crash of Trump Air

There's no way to really go over the details, because he won't fully disclose his financials. I strongly suspect this is why he won't do that.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

What we DO know that he began with millions of dollars and invaluable connections and influence from Daddy.

So did his siblings. Are they all worth billions?

I don't know. Did Daddy give them the same amount of money? Did Daddy give them the same connections and influence? Were they trying to become as personally wealthy as possible, or did they have other priorities?

What a shallow question you ask.

The only thing shallow is your end of the gene pool.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't know. Did Daddy give them the same amount of money? Did Daddy give them the same connections and influence? Were they trying to become as personally wealthy as possible, or did they have other priorities?

What a shallow question you ask.

I agree with your assertion here... We don't know. I think it's likely, but that isn't here nor there to what Trump has done. It doesn't mean anything to the opening OP.

The whole topic is that Trump is a successful business man, not the rest of his family. Taking millions and then multiplying it to billions suggests to me that he is.

Agreed?

If that's what he has in fact done. I don't know for sure.

So I think the question posed by the OP is legitimate.

You don't know because you are a libtard and a moron.