Is trump for sale?

[jacksonlamb]

I just don't get this. I'm educated, have been what people would call successful, have a history of making decisions that have worked out, and I am extremely happy with Trump and his presidency. I couldn't be more optimistic about the future. So I don't understand people who have the complete opposite take who think everything is a disaster and the world is going to end. There is nothing that's happening that is cause for any of the pessimism I'm seeing. How is this huge disconnect possible?

... because you are delusional. I had a SIL and a cousin just like you. You think what you believe to be real when in fact it is not.

 

[Mac1958]

I just don't get this. I'm educated, have been what people would call successful, have a history of making decisions that have worked out, and I am extremely happy with Trump and his presidency. I couldn't be more optimistic about the future. So I don't understand people who have the complete opposite take who think everything is a disaster and the world is going to end. There is nothing that's happening that is cause for any of the pessimism I'm seeing. How is this huge disconnect possible?

It's not that complicated. America has somehow essentially split into two parallel, competing realities.

One reality is the MAGA reality. The other reality is that of the rest of the country and the rest of the world.

That's as simple and clear as I can make it. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and I will not try.

 

[berg80]

I just don't get this. I'm educated, have been what people would call successful, have a history of making decisions that have worked out, and I am extremely happy with Trump and his presidency. I couldn't be more optimistic about the future. So I don't understand people who have the complete opposite take who think everything is a disaster and the world is going to end. There is nothing that's happening that is cause for any of the pessimism I'm seeing. How is this huge disconnect possible?

Trump tax bill would widen deficits by $2.8T after factoring in economic impacts, CBO says​

Trump tax bill would widen deficits by $2.8T after factoring in economic impacts, CBO says

President Donald Trump’s tax and budget bill would increase deficits by $2.8 trillion over the next decade after factoring in other economic effects.

apnews.com

Donald Trump and his administration predict that extending the 2017 tax cuts and implementing new economic policies will reduce or eventually wipe out the federal deficit, primarily by generating rapid, long-term economic growth. [1, 2, 3]

The saying, "ignorance is bliss," comes to mind.

 

[Lockback]

Another berg80 daily masturbation thread that's totally meaningless aside from his need to deal with his DAILY OBSESSION with the man who owns him:

 

[Lockback]

It's not that complicated. America has somehow essentially split into two parallel, competing realities.

One reality is the MAGA reality. The other reality is that of the rest of the country and the rest of the world.

That's as simple and clear as I can make it. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and I will not try.

You're funny.

 

[berg80]

It's not that complicated. America has somehow essentially split into two parallel, competing realities.

One reality is the MAGA reality. The other reality is that of the rest of the country and the rest of the world.

That's as simple and clear as I can make it. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and I will not try.

That's my mistake. I'm on a Quixotic quest to inform the misinformed but constantly run up against the buzzsaw of 24/7 propaganda being spewed by right wing media. And the psychological barrier created by the reluctance to change one's beliefs once they've been adopted.

 

[Lockback]

That's my mistake. I'm on a Quixotic quest to inform the misinformed but constantly run up against the buzzsaw of 24/7 propaganda being spewed by right wing media. And the psychological barrier created by the reluctance to change one's beliefs once they've been adopted.

"Right wing media" is completely overwhelmed by NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MS NOW, the New York Times, the Washington Post and virtually every other mainstream outlet. And you're still feeling sorry for yourself.
Thank God for alternative media and the internet so we no longer have to accept the Deep State lies as the "truth".

 

[Mac1958]

That's my mistake. I'm on a Quixotic quest to inform the misinformed but constantly run up against the buzzsaw of 24/7 propaganda being spewed by right wing media. And the psychological barrier created by the reluctance to change one's beliefs once they've been adopted.

Understandable. I've been looking at the sociology of this, and trying to communicate with them here, for ten years. I know exactly how every conversation is going to go, and I'm just out of patience. There is still a great deal to learn through observation, but getting too close just makes me sad over what it turns out America is.

A cultist's mind does not change from exterior stimuli. They either figure it out on their own or they do not.

 

[berg80]

At issue is ownership of the bridge. Trump correctly believes the US deserves a stake in it. Somehow that was missed in the MSNOW report.

After Mr. Trump’s initial post, Canada’s prime minister, Mark Carney, said he called Mr. Trump and explained that although Canada paid for the bridge, it will share ownership with Michigan under a 2012 agreement between the two governments.

Canada is Michigan’s largest export market.

“This is a great example of cooperation between our countries,” Mr. Carney told reporters at the time. “I look forward to it opening.”

Any time you're ready to acknowledge your mistake it's never too late.

 

[jacksonlamb]

MAGAdom is now on the down road right into the elections.

 

[Lockback]

Understandable. I've been looking at the sociology of this, and trying to communicate with them here, for ten years. I know exactly how every conversation is going to go, and I'm just out of patience. There is still a great deal to learn through observation, but getting too close just makes me sad over what it turns out America is.

A cultist's mind does not change from exterior input. They either figure it out on their own or they do not.

We're not the cult.
You guys are.

 

[berg80]

Understandable. I've been looking at the sociology of this, and trying to communicate with them here, for ten years. I know exactly how every conversation is going to go, and I'm just out of patience. There is still a great deal to learn through observation, but getting too close just makes me sad over what it turns out America is.

A cultist's mind does not change from exterior input. They either figure it out on their own or they do not.

Perhaps the most disturbing lesson of this era is how completely inured The Following is to factual refutation. Their minds are completely closed off to the demonstrable truth.

 

[skews13]

Why Trump’s ‘Bridgegate’ controversy has managed to get even worse​

The Gordie Howe International Bridge, which links Michigan and Ontario, is supposed to be open. As The Globe and Mail, Canada’s largest newspaper, reported, it is not.


This controversy, dubbed Donald Trump’s “Bridgegate” by The Wall Street Journal, has been simmering for months, and it already looked pretty bad.

In Trump’s first term, he endorsed the project, and there was no reason to expect him to reverse course. In February, however, the Republican did reverse course, announcing plans to prevent the bridge from opening, at least for a while.

Initially, it wasn’t at all clear what prompted the president’s declaration — right up until we learned that Michigan billionaire Matthew Moroun had met privately with administration officials to lobby against the bridge. His motivation was obvious: Moroun owns a separate bridge that connects Michigan and Canada, and as former Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan explained in a piece for MS NOW, he wants to maintain a near-monopoly with his privately owned toll bridge.

Complicating matters, Moroun gave $1 million to MAGA Inc., the Trump-aligned super PAC. In short order, he secured a meeting with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, and the same day as that meeting, Trump abandoned his previous position, announced his opposition to a project he’d already endorsed and said what Moroun wanted to hear.

Why Trump’s ‘Bridgegate’ controversy has managed to get even worse

Given the pattern, the appearance of pay-for-play is hard to ignore in an administration rife with corruption allegations.

www.ms.now

It would be bad enough if this was a singular example of what's called "pay for play." But it isn't.

Political Donors Should Not Be Above the Law​

Last December, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau sued the operator of the payment processor Zelle and three of the nation’s largest banks for failing to protect customers from rampant fraud on the platform that caused them to lose more than $870 million. According to the bureau, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and JPMorgan Chase left customers on their own to deal with fraud, failed to investigate complaints and issue reimbursements, and told some customers to contact the fraudsters to recover their money. Around that same time, Bank of America contributed $500,000 to Donald Trump’s inaugural committee. JPMorgan Chase gave $1,033,057. The Electronic Payments Coalition — which counts the three banks as members — donated $1,000,000. In early March, not only was the case dropped, but the entire CFPB was shuttered.

This example is consistent with the broader pattern of Trump donors receiving favorable legal outcomes after making contributions. Consider the cases of two corporate executives, Paul Walczak and Trevor Milton. Walczak was convicted of misappropriating over $10 million of his employees’ payroll taxes and Milton was found guilty of securities and wire fraud for misleading inexperienced investors, many of them ordinary people who began investing during the COVID-19 pandemic to make ends meet.

Political Donors Should Not Be Above the Law

The line between public service and private gain continues to blur as financial elites secure pardons and regulatory leniency following campaign contributions.

www.brennancenter.org

We're at the point where there have been so many examples of this sort of thing their egregious nature need to be ranked. No one wants to think their prez is for sale but it's difficult to reach any other conclusion after what has transpired. Yet, with a cowed Congress ruled by R's, a DoJ completely under Don's control, and a compliant Supreme Court so stacked with conservative ideologues that they bestowed upon trump immunity for selected illegal acts........nothing will be done.

yes.

 

[jacksonlamb]

We're not the cult.
You guys are.

That is a natural reaction for a narcissistic cult person.

 

[Lockback]

Perhaps the most disturbing lesson of this era is how completely inured The Following is to factual refutation. Their minds are completely closed off to the demonstrable truth.

Why should we believe one goddam word of what you liars have told us?

 

[Mac1958]

That is a natural reaction for a narcissistic cult person.

Yep. They're not the cult. The rest of the world is.

Standard stuff.

 

[berg80]

Yep. They're not the cult. The rest of the world is.

Standard stuff.

After a long respite from talking politics with my neighbor I sent him an article about trump's corrupt, rampant, insider trading. It was a straightforward recitation of the facts. His reply, "Don't send me articles from biased media sources." And there you have it.

 

[Mac1958]

Perhaps the most disturbing lesson of this era is how completely inured The Following is to factual refutation. Their minds are completely closed off to the demonstrable truth.

Personally, I think this has been building since the day Limbaugh went national.

He didn't just feed them fully one-sided propaganda in a highly entertaining (he began as a deejay and brought a deejay's creative entertainment approach to it) way. He gave them a thought process. So it wasn't just telling them WHAT to think, it was showing them HOW to think. So they looked at everything through the prism of that (fully binary) thought process.

Then came the radio copycats, then FOX, then the internet to reinforce and amplify. Trump saw it. As another poster has said, Trump took one look at the talk radio audience and said, "THIS is gonna be EASY".

And here we are.

 

[Lockback]

Personally, I think this has been building since the day Limbaugh went national.

He didn't just feed them fully one-sided propaganda in a highly entertaining (he began as a deejay and brought a deejay's creative entertainment element to it) way. He gave them a thought process. So it wasn't just telling them what to think, it was showing them HOW to think. So they looked at everything through the prism of that thought process.

Then came the radio copycats, then FOX, then the internet to reinforce and amplify. Trump saw it. As another poster has said, Trump took one look at the talk radio audience and said, "THIS is gonna be EASY".

And here we are.

After decades of having every major network shove their Deep State propaganda up our asses, you now complain about Limbaugh and FOX.
Wow.
Sorry your monopoly on information and opinion was shattered.
It must be tough.

 

[Care4all]

The love of money,
Is the root of many evils....

So says the Lord!