Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Are secular scientists prone to exaggeration in support of accepted theories?

  • Yes, at least on occasion.

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • No, never. They are highly respected and above tweaking data... They are above suspicion.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
I'm sure you don't understand any more than you understood your own opening comment to me.
In other words, you posted some gibberish you can't even explain. Shocking!

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I've been explaining my point of view very well while all you appear to be capable of is trolling and mouthing off like a jack ass.

Does this mouthing off about other opinions and beliefs come with a highly vaunted progressive education?

Show me once where I've alluded to anything magical other than in your deluded mind.

*****CHUCKLE*****



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I'm sure you don't understand any more than you understood your own opening comment to me.
In other words, you posted some gibberish you can't even explain. Shocking!

th


I've been explaining my point of view very well while all you appear to be capable of is trolling and mouthing off like a jack ass.

Does this mouthing off about other opinions and beliefs come with a highly vaunted progressive education?

Show me once where I've alluded to anything magical other than in your deluded mind.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Are you done whining? Geesh.

So, care to explain what you were getting at? You say people would be amazed by tech...so...who cares? How is that relevant?
 
I'm sure you don't understand any more than you understood your own opening comment to me.
In other words, you posted some gibberish you can't even explain. Shocking!

th


I've been explaining my point of view very well while all you appear to be capable of is trolling and mouthing off like a jack ass.

Does this mouthing off about other opinions and beliefs come with a highly vaunted progressive education?

Show me once where I've alluded to anything magical other than in your deluded mind.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Are you done whining? Geesh.

So, care to explain what you were getting at? You say people would be amazed by tech...so...who cares? How is that relevant?


th


No because I considered your first post to me to be a whine about your own incompetence in visual imagery and inability to comprehend.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)
 
I'm sure you don't understand any more than you understood your own opening comment to me.
In other words, you posted some gibberish you can't even explain. Shocking!

th


I've been explaining my point of view very well while all you appear to be capable of is trolling and mouthing off like a jack ass.

Does this mouthing off about other opinions and beliefs come with a highly vaunted progressive education?

Show me once where I've alluded to anything magical other than in your deluded mind.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Are you done whining? Geesh.

So, care to explain what you were getting at? You say people would be amazed by tech...so...who cares? How is that relevant?


th


No because I considered your first post to me to be a whine about your own incompetence in visual imagery and inability to comprehend.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Neato!

So,back to whatever nonsense you are peddling. You say there are many myths that supoort a global flood. Ignoring the fact that such a claim is hilariously dumb and wrong (floods happen all over the planet every year....accounts of them are not support for a global event), I asked, "So what? Many legends about all kinds of silly nonsense exist."

And your response made no sense. Following?
 
In the Paluxy Tracks they look, superficially, like human footprints. But there are problems with them, as I posted links to explain.

from: The Paluxy River ‘footprints’ - Bad Archaeology
"Since the 1930s, dinosaur tracks have been known from the bed of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas. What makes these tracks so controversial are claims that as well as the footprints of dinosaurs, there are unmistakably human footprints in the same strata. Even creationists admit that some of them are fakes. In some of the ‘man tracks’, it is possible to make out traces of toes to the side of the ‘foot’, which suggests that they are nothing more mysterious than highly eroded three-toed dinosaur tracks. Some also show claw marks at the ‘heel’ of the print, which is another feature typical of a dinosaur footprint but not of a human footprint. In at least one footprint sequence, there is the inexplicable coincidence that dinosaur tracks and ‘human footprints’ alternate.

The Paluxy River ‘man prints’ may resemble human footprints superficially, but they lack the anatomy of real human footprints. Furthermore, dinosaurs and humans are of very different size and weight, but in the Paluxy River, tracks made by some undisputed dinosaurs and supposed humans are sunk to the same depth in the rock, which suggests that both types were made by creatures of the same general weight; there are tracks, made by different dinosaur species sunk to different depths. In the same way, the distances between footfalls of those tracks made to the same depth are spaced the same distance apart, showing that they were made by creatures with similar stride lengths."

This site examines the tracks more closely: Paluxy Dinosaur/"Man Track" controversy

Paluxy is evidence, but I don't think it's conclusive evidence. For one, the tracks are slowly being eroded away and the State of Texas isn't doing anything to save them such as diverting the river. I think the human footprints are long gone, so it's based on what evidence was captured back then. My opinion is more evidence needs to be found in order to add to this physical evidence. I understand what you are saying that the human footprints were different dinosaur ones, but I think it's based on your experts. I would have to defer to experts on the human ones. I think we agree that the dino footprints are in fact dino ones.

I am not surprised that you believe the tracks are real. You want them to be real. And any evidence that is contrary to your beliefs, you label as "opinion".

Such scientific hypocrisy. Your side believes that the Laetoli footprints meant chimps started walking bipedal. Those prints look like fully modern human footprints. They were found in a layer too old to be humans.

No, they say that the Laetoli footprints are likely made by Australopithecus, not chimps.

Creation scientists and I believe Lucy or AA were chimps. There isn't enough clear evidence with AA. Even Prof. C. Owen Lovejoy, who put together Lucy,, thinks Ardi, i.e Ardipithecus ramidus presents better evidence and that apes evolved from humans.
 
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I'm sure you don't understand any more than you understood your own opening comment to me.
In other words, you posted some gibberish you can't even explain. Shocking!

th


I've been explaining my point of view very well while all you appear to be capable of is trolling and mouthing off like a jack ass.

Does this mouthing off about other opinions and beliefs come with a highly vaunted progressive education?

Show me once where I've alluded to anything magical other than in your deluded mind.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Are you done whining? Geesh.

So, care to explain what you were getting at? You say people would be amazed by tech...so...who cares? How is that relevant?


th


No because I considered your first post to me to be a whine about your own incompetence in visual imagery and inability to comprehend.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Neato!

So,back to whatever nonsense you are peddling. You say there are many myths that supoort a global flood. Ignoring the fact that such a claim is hilariously dumb and wrong (floods happen all over the planet every year....accounts of them are not support for a global event), I asked, "So what? Many legends about all kinds of silly nonsense exist."

And your response made no sense. Following?


th


What don't you understand about mile thick ice sheets melting?

Reminds me of your pathetic argument...

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)
 
What don't you understand about mile thick ice sheets melting?

Reminds me of your pathetic argument...
You really have a hard time articulating complete thoughts, don't you? Nobody knows what the hell you are babbling about...least of all, you....
 
When my son was small, we got very excited going to visit Dinosaur State Park in Connecticut, where they said they had REAL DINOSAUR FOOTPRINTS!!!!
They didn't look like much--more like bird tracks, so it was a bit of a let down. But the creature was big -- just had little feet. I was expecting footprints you could lay down in and do snow angels.
We had fun on the nature trails, though. Still joke about the sign saying "rotting log." LOL

You should've asked for your money back. Dinosaur tracks are usually very large. Bird footprints are small. Never the twain shall meet.
 
What don't you understand about mile thick ice sheets melting?

Reminds me of your pathetic argument...
You really have a hard time articulating complete thoughts, don't you? Nobody knows what the hell you are babbling about...least of all, you....

th

So now you're not only incapable of comprehending and responding on subject matter on topic but are only capable of trolling incesively like a worm engorging itself in shit.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)
 
I guarantee, no one who understans anything about human evolution would ever believe that the Laetoli footprints meant chimps started walking bipedal.

Wrong haha. "The famous Laetoli footprints attributed to Australopithecus afarensis are bipedal, but they are still relatively splayed compared to the tracks of living humans."

The emergence of humans
Do you know of any bipedal chimps? Dogs can walk on two legs, are they bipedal?

Chimps and apes are not bipedal. We also know that their skull capacities didn't increase from those of old fossils. If the present is the key to the past, then the chimps/apes in the past did not become bipedal either. Thus, it contradicts the Laetoli footprints being chimps or apes. They were most likely human like I said.
 
The fact that you believe the Paluxy tracks are human and dinosaur basically shoots down the idea that the Great Flood killed the dinosaurs. There are hundreds of feet of sedimentary rock below the tracks. So, if there was a great flood, the tracks were made after that.
 
So now you're not only incapable of comprehending and responding on subject matter on topic
I responded right on topic and directly to your idiotic claim . Your response was nonsensical, so I asked you to explain it. That's when you went into your usual tailspin. Goddamn son, you're like a child.
 
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I guarantee, no one who understans anything about human evolution would ever believe that the Laetoli footprints meant chimps started walking bipedal.

Wrong haha. "The famous Laetoli footprints attributed to Australopithecus afarensis are bipedal, but they are still relatively splayed compared to the tracks of living humans."

The emergence of humans
Do you know of any bipedal chimps? Dogs can walk on two legs, are they bipedal?

Chimps and apes are not bipedal. We also know that their skull capacities didn't increase from those of old fossils. If the present is the key to the past, then the chimps/apes in the past did not become bipedal either. Thus, it contradicts the Laetoli footprints being chimps or apes. They were most likely human like I said.

How can there be old fossils?

It’s actually comical to see you utterly contradict yourself from post to post.
 
In the Paluxy Tracks they look, superficially, like human footprints. But there are problems with them, as I posted links to explain.

from: The Paluxy River ‘footprints’ - Bad Archaeology
"Since the 1930s, dinosaur tracks have been known from the bed of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas. What makes these tracks so controversial are claims that as well as the footprints of dinosaurs, there are unmistakably human footprints in the same strata. Even creationists admit that some of them are fakes. In some of the ‘man tracks’, it is possible to make out traces of toes to the side of the ‘foot’, which suggests that they are nothing more mysterious than highly eroded three-toed dinosaur tracks. Some also show claw marks at the ‘heel’ of the print, which is another feature typical of a dinosaur footprint but not of a human footprint. In at least one footprint sequence, there is the inexplicable coincidence that dinosaur tracks and ‘human footprints’ alternate.

The Paluxy River ‘man prints’ may resemble human footprints superficially, but they lack the anatomy of real human footprints. Furthermore, dinosaurs and humans are of very different size and weight, but in the Paluxy River, tracks made by some undisputed dinosaurs and supposed humans are sunk to the same depth in the rock, which suggests that both types were made by creatures of the same general weight; there are tracks, made by different dinosaur species sunk to different depths. In the same way, the distances between footfalls of those tracks made to the same depth are spaced the same distance apart, showing that they were made by creatures with similar stride lengths."

This site examines the tracks more closely: Paluxy Dinosaur/"Man Track" controversy

Paluxy is evidence, but I don't think it's conclusive evidence. For one, the tracks are slowly being eroded away and the State of Texas isn't doing anything to save them such as diverting the river. I think the human footprints are long gone, so it's based on what evidence was captured back then. My opinion is more evidence needs to be found in order to add to this physical evidence. I understand what you are saying that the human footprints were different dinosaur ones, but I think it's based on your experts. I would have to defer to experts on the human ones. I think we agree that the dino footprints are in fact dino ones.

I am not surprised that you believe the tracks are real. You want them to be real. And any evidence that is contrary to your beliefs, you label as "opinion".

Such scientific hypocrisy. Your side believes that the Laetoli footprints meant chimps started walking bipedal. Those prints look like fully modern human footprints. They were found in a layer too old to be humans.

No, they say that the Laetoli footprints are likely made by Australopithecus, not chimps.

Creation scientists and I believe Lucy or AA were chimps. There isn't enough clear evidence with AA. Even Prof. C. Owen Lovejoy, who put together Lucy,, thinks Ardi, i.e Ardipithecus ramidus presents better evidence and that apes evolved from humans.

You think the human footprints have disappeared since the 1930s?
 
In that post I was referring to the Delk Tracks. The first footprint pic you showed. In the second I was referring to the Paluxy Prints.
When my son was small, we got very excited going to visit Dinosaur State Park in Connecticut, where they said they had REAL DINOSAUR FOOTPRINTS!!!!
They didn't look like much--more like bird tracks, so it was a bit of a let down. But the creature was big -- just had little feet. I was expecting footprints you could lay down in and do snow angels.
We had fun on the nature trails, though. Still joke about the sign saying "rotting log." LOL
well isnt that special,,,

Yes, it probably was very special to her family. Don't be an ass.
I'm not here for family stories,,,especially when they have nothing to do with the topic,,,
I was bored reading a jerk like you arguing about something so patently stupid. And it is mildly interesting that big old honkin' dinosaurs had such little tiny feet. Kinda like deer shit, which is about the size of raisins. Then goose shit is the size of a small dog's.

I don't know why Winterborn bothers with you; there is certainly no hope of getting through.



you were so bored you had to respond and bring down the discussion,,,got it
 
Such scientific hypocrisy. Your side believes that the Laetoli footprints meant chimps started walking bipedal. Those prints look like fully modern human footprints. They were found in a layer too old to be humans.

In the Paluxy Tracks they look, superficially, like human footprints. But there are problems with them, as I posted links to explain.

from: The Paluxy River ‘footprints’ - Bad Archaeology
"Since the 1930s, dinosaur tracks have been known from the bed of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas. What makes these tracks so controversial are claims that as well as the footprints of dinosaurs, there are unmistakably human footprints in the same strata. Even creationists admit that some of them are fakes. In some of the ‘man tracks’, it is possible to make out traces of toes to the side of the ‘foot’, which suggests that they are nothing more mysterious than highly eroded three-toed dinosaur tracks. Some also show claw marks at the ‘heel’ of the print, which is another feature typical of a dinosaur footprint but not of a human footprint. In at least one footprint sequence, there is the inexplicable coincidence that dinosaur tracks and ‘human footprints’ alternate.

The Paluxy River ‘man prints’ may resemble human footprints superficially, but they lack the anatomy of real human footprints. Furthermore, dinosaurs and humans are of very different size and weight, but in the Paluxy River, tracks made by some undisputed dinosaurs and supposed humans are sunk to the same depth in the rock, which suggests that both types were made by creatures of the same general weight; there are tracks, made by different dinosaur species sunk to different depths. In the same way, the distances between footfalls of those tracks made to the same depth are spaced the same distance apart, showing that they were made by creatures with similar stride lengths."

This site examines the tracks more closely: Paluxy Dinosaur/"Man Track" controversy
your first link wont let me read it unless I give it access to my computer which I wont do, the other was written by a computer programmer


nice try but no cigar,,,
I will stick with the evidence,,,

Evidence? Photos with little or no research? I've seen pics of Bigfoot online too. Is that evidence?

Well, lucky for you I quoted 2 paragraphs from the website. I'll quote them again for you.

""Since the 1930s, dinosaur tracks have been known from the bed of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas. What makes these tracks so controversial are claims that as well as the footprints of dinosaurs, there are unmistakably human footprints in the same strata. Even creationists admit that some of them are fakes. In some of the ‘man tracks’, it is possible to make out traces of toes to the side of the ‘foot’, which suggests that they are nothing more mysterious than highly eroded three-toed dinosaur tracks. Some also show claw marks at the ‘heel’ of the print, which is another feature typical of a dinosaur footprint but not of a human footprint. In at least one footprint sequence, there is the inexplicable coincidence that dinosaur tracks and ‘human footprints’ alternate.

The Paluxy River ‘man prints’ may resemble human footprints superficially, but they lack the anatomy of real human footprints. Furthermore, dinosaurs and humans are of very different size and weight, but in the Paluxy River, tracks made by some undisputed dinosaurs and supposed humans are sunk to the same depth in the rock, which suggests that both types were made by creatures of the same general weight; there are tracks, made by different dinosaur species sunk to different depths. In the same way, the distances between footfalls of those tracks made to the same depth are spaced the same distance apart, showing that they were made by creatures with similar stride lengths."

The fact that Glen J. Kuban is a computer programmer does nothing to change his findings. He is an independent researcher and his research is well documented.
who said no research was done???

if you took the time to research it you would know how much was done,,,

He took color pictures of the tracks. These showed differences that are inconsistent with human tracks.

Also, the Paluxy Tracks don't help the Great Flood story.


in your opinion,,,
 

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