Zone1 Is there objective truth? Is there Objective evil and good?

[Votto]

Most everyone on the Left would scream, "No!"...........until they get to Hitler or maybe even Trump. Then they have a serious problem.

Hilter is a problem because he is the universal symbol of evil that no one of any credibility really exists as representing evil.

And Trump is a problem because the Left must destroy him by turning him into the universal symbol of evil everyone has already accepted as being evil.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, and yes.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

There are objective facts interpreted by very subjective people.

Some people are MUCH more subjective than others, this subjectivity rising with their personal and group involvement. In these days where the Democrat party is all about identity rather than principles, any hope for objectivity is lost.

 

[Woodznutz]

There are objective facts interpreted by very subjective people.

Some people are MUCH more subjective than others, this subjectivity rising with their personal and group involvement. In these days where the Democrat party is all about identity rather than principles, any hope for objectivity is lost.

Both are wasted on trivial matters.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Is there objective truth? Is there Objective evil and good?​

Yes.

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Most everyone on the Left would scream, "No!"...........until they get to Hitler or maybe even Trump. Then they have a serious problem.

Hilter is a problem because he is the universal symbol of evil that no one of any credibility really exists as representing evil.

And Trump is a problem because the Left must destroy him by turning him into the universal symbol of evil everyone has already accepted as being evil.

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All the left has is Emmanuel Goldstein.

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[shockedcanadian]

When your wife asks you how she looks in her new clothes, what do you say?

It all depends on the issue.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

When your wife asks you how she looks in her new clothes, what do you say?

It all depends on the issue.

But that’s not objective truth. That’s extortion.
Objective truth would be when she asks ‘Does this dress make my ass look big?’ and you reply ‘No, your ass makes your ass look big’.

 

[Hafar1014]

Most everyone on the Left would scream, "No!"...........until they get to Hitler or maybe even Trump. Then they have a serious problem.

Hilter is a problem because he is the universal symbol of evil that no one of any credibility really exists as representing evil.

And Trump is a problem because the Left must destroy him by turning him into the universal symbol of evil everyone has already accepted as being evil.

Truth cant be objective its always subjective. Only facts can be objective.
The real discussion is about morals being objective. Some are some need context

 

[Dogmaphobe]

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All the left has is Emmanuel Goldstein.

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Their ignorance is strength as they view freedom as slavery.

 

[alang1216]

Most everyone on the Left would scream, "No!"...........until they get to Hitler or maybe even Trump. Then they have a serious problem.

Hilter is a problem because he is the universal symbol of evil that no one of any credibility really exists as representing evil.

And Trump is a problem because the Left must destroy him by turning him into the universal symbol of evil everyone has already accepted as being evil.

Yes and no. Objective truths will never change while concepts of good and evil are dependent on the society at that instance in time and will change over time.

Hitler spewed his hate but the Germans at the time loved it. Jews considered him evil, Germans considered him good.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes and no. Objective truths will never change while concepts of good and evil are dependent on the society at that instance in time and will change over time.

Hitler spewed his hate but the Germans at the time loved it. Jews considered him evil, Germans considered him good.

Germans considered him good doesnt make him good

 

[JanetTheGreat]

For those who say that everything is relative and there is no "Objective" anything, they sure like to freak out when they see something that they see as "evil", that being Trump. Nihilists dominate the left.

 

[alang1216]

Germans considered him good doesnt make him good

Who gets to judge?

 

[buttercup]

Objective truth and an objective good exist. Evil, however, isn't a thing in and of itself. It's the opposition of good, or the absence of good. C.S Lewis wrote about that... He said "That is why I say there can be good without evil, but no evil without good."

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Objective truth and an objective good exist. Evil, however, isn't a thing in and of itself. It's the opposition of good, or the absence of good. C.S Lewis wrote about that... He said "That is why I say there can be good without evil, but no evil without good."

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I never knew GOOD until I saw EVIL that could not be denied.

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[buttercup]

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I never knew GOOD until I saw EVIL that could not be denied.

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Yes, all I'm saying is that evil is not a thing in and of itself... it doesn't exist on its own. It is the absence or opposition of GOOD, similar to how darkness is merely the absence of light, and not a thing in and of itself.

But that said, my experience is similar....seeing all the evil in this world was one of the things that led me to God. Because I intuitively knew that a real (objective) GOOD exists, and that is what led to thinking about the question, what is the source of that good?

 

[buttercup]

ding has talked about this before, maybe he can explain it better.

 

[Hafar1014]

Objective truth and an objective good exist. Evil, however, isn't a thing in and of itself. It's the opposition of good, or the absence of good. C.S Lewis wrote about that... He said "That is why I say there can be good without evil, but no evil without good."

Define an objective good

 

[Hafar1014]

Who gets to judge?

You dont have to be taught putting people in ovens and gas chambers because of who they are is wrong. I get to judge