Is there any USMB member who believes all deported Tren de Aragua members be returned to the US?

[SeaMajor7]

See, this is the bumper sticker crowd I'm talking about.

They refuse to see that it's not about crusading for "criminal terrorist illegal aliens", it's about defending the Constitution and the right of Due Process which is what protects "We The People..." from the despots and tyrants they would support.

Because ya know...

..... ..... ..... ..... The ends justify the means.

Y'all should be ashamed.
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And no, I will never stop believing in the oath I took decades ago to support and defend the Constitution.

WW

Self-awareness, give it a try.

 

[Hollie]

Bring them back and give them the trials the Constitution requires.

i’m afraid the scumbags and terrorists you define as your heroes aren’t coming back.

I’m afraid you’re too stupid to understand that illegals with existing removal orders currently being deported have had their day in court.

 

[Hollie]

See, this is the bumper sticker crowd I'm talking about.

They refuse to see that it's not about crusading for "criminal terrorist illegal aliens", it's about defending the Constitution and the right of Due Process which is what protects "We The People..." from the despots and tyrants they would support.

Because ya know...

..... ..... ..... ..... The ends justify the means.

Y'all should be ashamed.
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And no, I will never stop believing in the oath I took decades ago to support and defend the Constitution.

WW

That sappy melodrama is misplaced. Illegals with existing removal orders have had their day in court. Not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.

 

[Kondor3]

Looks like the left is now supporting a two time wife beater.......plus a known and documented high level MS-13 member.

Trump just Trumped the democrats.....................can't wait to see the midterm ads.

Lesh and WW in a straight jacket?

I'm no Trump fan but he DOES seem to have a knack for luring opponents into velvet traps that can kill careers...

 

[Hollie]

Looks like the left is now supporting a two time wife beater.......plus a known and documented high level MS-13 member.

Trump just Trumped the democrats.....................can't wait to see the midterm ads.

Lesh and WW in a straight jacket?

Let’s see Van Hollen justify his travel expenses, not on the taxpayer dime, to rescue his hero the wife beater and terrorist.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" There Today Else Where Tomorrow "

* Spectacles *

Let's see our staunch Democrat supporters stand up and be counted. Who agrees with Jamie Raskin? Should the deported Tren de Aragua gang members be brought back into the US or not?

What would be the perceptions if congress mun , who may or may not be in concurrence with the deportation , asserted that ara gua be transferred to the destination specified in the order for deportation ?

A us citizen is a subject by title of etas unis and is therefore a subject of us jurisdiction , which necessarily includes an obligation of us government to ensure the civil liberties of its citizens - wherever they may be , while extradition requests between countries for prosecution and confinement is discretionary , though prosecution in us courts for crimes alleged abroad is an option .

The legal and political institutions seek to establish precedence by parading poster children for side show theatrics .

 

[Hollie]

See this is what the bumper sticker, ends justify the means crowd dosen't get. It's about the Constitution and the right of all person in this country (with no qualifiers) to have Due Process. To be able to stand in a court of law and the government be required to present evidence in the light of day and for a persons ability to challenge that evidence in an fair and impartial setting. Because when the ends justify the means today for one group, then the Constitution has no meaning and the polticial elite (at that time) can be despots doing as they will as no one will stop them because they have no respect for the law.

It's not about Abrego Garcia. Go back and read what I've posted many times. Bring him back, give him his due right in a habeas corpus hearing to see the evidence, challenge the evidence - and then have a judge decide. If they can pick him up off the streets and transport him out of the country to a human storage facility today, they will be able to do the same to you tomorrow.

If he is a criminal? DON'T deport him. Charge him, have a trail, convict him, send him to prision, and after his sentence is done - deport him.

If he is not a criminal? Deport him under the laws established by Congress (here we are talking about 8 USC 1231) which the Constitution REQUIRES the Executive Branach to faithfully execute.

Those of you that want to wipe your ass today with the Constitution are not patriots, not "true American's". What you are those that want to return to the Kings Law, where the law was used to control the people. Instead what we've had for 250 years which is the People Law where the was supposed to protect people from despots, tyrants, and kings.

WW

Your hero had “due process”. He appeared before the courts on multiple occasions. The outcomes for your hero were not in his favor so it seems you care not a wit for “due process”, you want the outcome that appeals to your delicate sensibilities.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That sappy melodrama is misplaced. Illegals with existing removal orders have had their day in court. Not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.

Abrego Garcia didn’t have a removal order, the government admitted in court that they made a mistake.

The judge in 2019 withheld deportation.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Your hero had “due process”. He appeared before the courts on multiple occasions. The outcomes for your hero were not in his favor so it seems you care not a wit for “due process”, you want the outcome that appeals to your delicate sensibilities.

He’s not my hero.

Yes he had immigration hearing where the judge placed a hold on deportation.

All the government had to do was locate a different country IAW 8 USC 1231 and get the hold lifted. But instead the Trump administration in2019 let him stay and issued him legal work authorization.

WW

 

[SeaMajor7]

Abrego Garcia didn’t have a removal order, the government admitted in court that they made a mistake.

The judge in 2019 withheld deportation.

WW

Awwwww, sorry for your loss.

 

[Hollie]

Abrego Garcia didn’t have a removal order, the government admitted in court that they made a mistake.

The judge in 2019 withheld deportation.

WW

Don’t expect others to shed a tear over your illegal alien, wife beater and MS13 terrorist, hero.

Your hero entered the country illegally in 2012 and made no effort to obtain citizenship.


Curious that your hero is given the right to false statements and everyone is expected to excuse that.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

“ Abrego Garcia responds that he is not a member of MS–13, and that he has lived safely in the United States with his family for a decade and has never been charged with a crime.”

Oops. I guess those multiple little wife beating dalliances slipped his mind.

 

[Hollie]

He’s not my hero.

Yes he had immigration hearing where the judge placed a hold on deportation.

All the government had to do was locate a different country IAW 8 USC 1231 and get the hold lifted. But instead the Trump administration in2019 let him stay and issued him legal work authorization.

WW

I can’t shed a tear over the illegal alien wife beater not heaving a consultation with the government over his preferred travel itinerary.

 

[Delldude]

See this is what the bumper sticker, ends justify the means crowd dosen't get. It's about the Constitution and the right of all person in this country (with no qualifiers) to have Due Process. To be able to stand in a court of law and the government be required to present evidence in the light of day and for a persons ability to challenge that evidence in an fair and impartial setting. Because when the ends justify the means today for one group, then the Constitution has no meaning and the polticial elite (at that time) can be despots doing as they will as no one will stop them because they have no respect for the law.

It's not about Abrego Garcia. Go back and read what I've posted many times. Bring him back, give him his due right in a habeas corpus hearing to see the evidence, challenge the evidence - and then have a judge decide. If they can pick him up off the streets and transport him out of the country to a human storage facility today, they will be able to do the same to you tomorrow.

If he is a criminal? DON'T deport him. Charge him, have a trail, convict him, send him to prision, and after his sentence is done - deport him.

If he is not a criminal? Deport him under the laws established by Congress (here we are talking about 8 USC 1231) which the Constitution REQUIRES the Executive Branach to faithfully execute.

Those of you that want to wipe your ass today with the Constitution are not patriots, not "true American's". What you are those that want to return to the Kings Law, where the law was used to control the people. Instead what we've had for 250 years which is the People Law where the was supposed to protect people from despots, tyrants, and kings.

WW

Cut the face saving bullshit. All the due process was followed.

The dem's screwed up royally in their attempts to make a proven violent person into a hero in attempt to get points against the Trump administration and it backfired big time.

 

[Delldude]

I'm no Trump fan but he DOES seem to have a knack for luring opponents into velvet traps that can kill careers...

Fair exchange is no robbery.

 

[Kondor3]

Let’s see Van Hollen justify his travel expenses, not on the taxpayer dime, to rescue his hero the wife beater and terrorist.

Yes... interesting... I am ignorant about this...

Can a Senator file an Expense Report for government reimbursement and then be denied for the kind of stunt he was engaged upon in El Salvador?

If "No" then he'll have to rely upon private funding or out-of-pocket for that purpose; however...

If "Yes", I'm wondering whether the government can deny that particular claim as "unauthorized" or "contrary to the interests of the United States" or "unwelcome meddling in foreign policy" or "usurping Executive prerogatives" or some other juicy rationalization...

That would be hilarious.

 

[sealybobo]

Please keep with the decorum......

Didn't Hitler try to take over neighboring countries like Trump is talking about taking over Canada?

He's talking about sending American citizens to 3rd world prisons.

yea, Nazi's for sure. Maybe not exactly like them but pretty damn close.

You like the 1st amendment as long as it's not universities, immigrants, liberals.

You really are pos. Pieces of Shit

 

[Kondor3]

Abrego Garcia didn’t have a removal order, the government admitted in court that they made a mistake.

The judge in 2019 withheld deportation.

WW

And now he's back on El Salvadoran soil and he's going to stay there if the El Salvadoran President has anything to say about it (and he does)... an administrative mistake that had a positive and happy outcome for the majority of the American People...

And, come to think of it, it sends another very clear message to outsiders... If you're not one of us, stay out, unless you are granted our express prior consent to enter... fail to do that and we're going to ship your nasty a$$ back home...

By hook or crook... any way we can... any way we can get away with it... buh-bye... don't let the door hit you in the a$$...

All's Fair in Love and War... and National Emergencies like repelling an Invasion of 20,000,000 Illegal Aliens...

 

[Delldude]

Didn't Hitler try to take over neighboring countries like Trump is talking about taking over Canada?

He's talking about sending American citizens to 3rd world prisons.

yea, Nazi's for sure. Maybe not exactly like them but pretty damn close.

You like the 1st amendment as long as it's not universities, immigrants, liberals.

You really are pos. Pieces of Shit

Sealy Boo Hoo.......

I feel your pain, brother........

 

[sealybobo]

Sealy Boo Hoo.......

I feel your pain, brother........

Oh you'll feel your own pain soon brother. Very soon

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/17/china-targets-us-services-and-other-areas-after-decrying-meaningless-tariff-hikes-on-goods-.html

You're such an idiot

China is seeking to broaden the trade war to encompass services trade — which covers travel, legal, consulting and financial services — where the U.S. has been running a significant surplus with China for years.

“Beijing is clearly signaling to Washington that two can play in this retaliation game and that it has many levers to pull, all creating different levels of pain for U.S. companies,”

Beijing has rolled out a series of non-tariff restrictive measures including widening export controls of rare-earth minerals

Idiots!

 

[Delldude]

Oh you'll feel your own pain soon brother. Very soon

China is hurting economically and I read reports of labor unrest in a couple areas.
Xi doesn't get it together he'll be replaced.

You're such an idiot

Why thank you for the kind words.