Is there any USMB member who believes all deported Tren de Aragua members be returned to the US?

[jc456]

Now you are lying.

The links I've provided in the thread unequivocally show he requested asylum.

WW

dude, from your own fking link:

"Abrego Garcia lived in Maryland for many years without lawful status. Id. In early 2019, while waiting at the Home Depot in Hyattsville, Maryland, to be hired as a day laborer, Abrego"

"On March 29, 2019, DHS initiated removal proceedings against Abrego Garcia pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(6)(A)(i). ECF No. 1 ¶ 29. On April 24, 2019, Abrego Garcia appeared before an immigration judge (“IJ”) where he conceded his deportability and applied for asylum,"

 

[Delldude]

WHere did I lie about his immigration hold. Here is the order.

You tried to claim it was based on his not being a gang member.

I said illegal entry is normally handled as a civil matter (it is), even when criminal action is taken it's a misdemeanor.

Thanks for pointing out he violated immigration law.

Then I asked YOU when Abrego Garcia was convicted of a crime.

Has no bearing on the issue of him violating immigration law.

Unlike Trump, Abrego Garcia isn't a convicted criminal.

LOL................my man, nice deflection.

 

[Kondor3]

...I said illegal entry is normally handled as a civil matter (it is), even when criminal action is taken it's a misdemeanor...

Normally. Not "must be". The rules are now changing and The Law allows the Federal Government to proceed in that manner.

...Then I asked YOU when Abrego Garcia was convicted of a crime. The Trump Administration (2019) chose to deal with Abrego Garcia in a civil venue, and not charge him with a crime...

And how they've changed their minds. Probably has something to do with his MS-13 membership (past or present).

 

[WorldWatcher]

he never requested asylum, from the link you provided.

Now you are lying.

The links I've provided in the thread unequivocally show he requested asylum.

WW

"On March 29, 2019, DHS initiated removal proceedings against Abrego Garcia pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(6)(A)(i). ECF No. 1 ¶ 29. On April 24, 2019, Abrego Garcia appeared before an immigration judge (“IJ”) where he conceded his deportability and applied for asylum,"

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

You said he never requested asylum's.

Then provide a quote where he applied for asylum.
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You can't make this shit up.

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BTW - here is the link to the ruling for the asylum hearing you said he never requested, but oh, then he did request it.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.1_4.pdf

 

[Delldude]

Then provide a quote where he applied for asylum.
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Provide a link where he was granted asylum.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[konradv]

still insulting, still got nothing huh? I think you should just post it constantly it's all you got. Oh wait, you do.

All you ever had was FAKE NEWS.

 

[jc456]

BTW - here is the link to the ruling for the asylum hearing you said he never requested, but oh, then he did request it.

well, ahem, he needed to request ayslum when he made it to this continent. He did not, He waited to request asylum until he was arrested. Years later. That is a violation of law, it was his responsibility when he touched our soil. He did not. I proved that. He lived here many years... from your link. You aren't too good at this.

 

[jc456]

All you ever had was FAKE NEWS.

cause you don't do facts. I know that, you merely use insults as your response. go for it, prove me right!

 

[Foolardi]

I've already had democrats here tell me they support flying all the gang bangers Trump deported back to America, giving them large tax payer paid settlements, and turning them loose on Americans.

Only traitors would support this.

Democrats = traitors

Mores like Demobrats are provable true-blue :
Scumbaggers
Gettin' scummier { such a word ? } by the day.

 

[Foolardi]

cause you don't do facts. I know that, you merely use insults as your response. go for it, prove me right!

The Dembrats party is a continuum of Lies and Unamericanism.
It became Provable last year at around this time of year.

 

[WorldWatcher]

You tried to claim it was based on his not being a gang member.

False.

I've said the Immigration Judge said his testimony and supporting evidence was creditable. (WHich is was.)

Wearing a Bulls Cap != Being a gang member

Thanks for pointing out he violated immigration law.

Never said he didn't violate immigration law. You said he was a criminal. But yet have not shown where he was convicted of anything. (Most first violations of illegal entry are handled via civil proceedings not criminal.)

Has no bearing on the issue of him violating immigration law.

This case isn't about violating immigration law, it's about the administration violating the Constitutional protections enshrined in the 5th and 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

If during a habeas corpus hearing where the government presents their evidence and the defendant presents his and the Judge orders deportation? I'm cool with that.

LOL................my man, nice deflection.

No deflection, it's staying on topic.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Normally. Not "must be". The rules are now changing and The Law allows the Federal Government to proceed in that manner.

No disagreement.

And the law, 8 USC 1231 is that law. The Constitution requires that the President faithfully execute the laws of the United States. Such laws are passed by Congress.

And how they've changed their minds. Probably has something to do with his MS-13 membership (past or present).

There has been no creditable evidence that he's an MS-13 member. And no, wearing a Bulls Hat isn't evidence of gang membership.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Provide a link where he was granted asylum.

You can't make this shit up.

Never said he was granted asylum.

He was granted a deportation hold.

Those are two different things. And I've provided it multiple times.

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[WorldWatcher]

well, ahem, he needed to request ayslum when he made it to this continent. He did not, He waited to request asylum until he was arrested. Years later. That is a violation of law, it was his responsibility when he touched our soil. He did not. I proved that. He lived here many years... from your link. You aren't too good at this.

Thank you for admitting your error.

He did request asylum, that isn't the same as the Judge determining that he didn't qualify for it.

WW

 

[Delldude]

My response to your claim of denials of gang member affiliation:

Still had no bearing on the outcome did it?

Your response:

Yes it did, which is why Judge Jones in 2019 place a hold on deportation.

Clearly insinuating the hold was based on the no gang affiliation claim.

Did you hear why he was granted asylum by a fucking judge?

He wasn't granted asylum............LOL

He filed for asylum after the deadline he had to meet.

 

[Rawley]

Yes, Judge Jones (Immigration Judge) found his testimony and other evidence creditable.

And Judge Xinis (Federal District Court Judge) point out the deficiencies in the governments claim.


WW

Odd that he didn't mention MS -13 once in his opinion where you claim he found he was not a member of MS-13.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Odd that he didn't mention MS -13 once in his opinion where you claim he found he was not a member of MS-13.

He did.

He found Abrego Garcia's testimony and other evidence that he wasn't a gang member creditable.

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[jc456]

Thank you for admitting your error.

He did request asylum, that isn't the same as the Judge determining that he didn't qualify for it.

it was too late. again, the point you keep evading is the point about the law. but hey, you're a demofk and have zero knowledge of it. Destroys your entire post.

 

[Rawley]

He did.

He found Abrego Garcia's testimony and other evidence that he wasn't a gang member creditable.

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Again, nothing about him not being a gang member.

 

[jc456]

Again, nothing about him not being a gang member.

his mom and his wife said so so that's all he needs. splitting a gut.