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First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

Second, how could this be a mistake? Don't we have technology and communication?

I'm waiting... USS Liberty people, where is the outrage?
Kuwait uses American technology. Chinese and Russian cant shoot down an F 15.
 
Kuwait uses American technology. Chinese and Russian cant shoot down an F 15.
Wouldn't it be simpler if all allied armies had a transponder database so they could identify friendlies
 
Wouldn't it be simpler if all allied armies had a transponder database so they could identify friendlies

I guarantee you they will after this. Our military under Hegseth isn't about to allow things like this to happen again.
 

First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

Second, how could this be a mistake? Don't we have technology and communication?

I'm waiting... USS Liberty people, where is the outrage?
strollingbones brought up USS Liberty in 2008. Someone else in 2007. Lots of threads started about USS Liberty.
 

First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

Second, how could this be a mistake? Don't we have technology and communication?

I'm waiting... USS Liberty people, where is the outrage?

Why on earth do you believe it ?
If it looks like a duck , waddles and quacks , it is a duck .

Do you really imagine they would report disastrous and hilarious news at any time --- let alone in the first few hours of a mad escapade ?

It is what is known as a sack full of Shite
 

First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

Second, how could this be a mistake? Don't we have technology and communication?

I'm waiting... USS Liberty people, where is the outrage?
My prayers go out to all the service members who were killed or injured and their families. It is unacceptable to have our Troops harmed in this war against Iran. Thank you to the Troops who gave their lives for us and to all of our Troops sacrificing for us and the Iranian people!
 
First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

I don't have all of the details but I think part of the issue is that Kuwait is using good new stuff that we sold to them, so, however the mistake happened, the stuff works.
 
Wouldn't it be simpler if all allied armies had a transponder database so they could identify friendlies
EXCERPT:
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What had Happened Was


To understand how a modern air defense system shoots down its own allies, you can dive into the Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system. On paper, it’s the equivalent of a digital handshake. A radar interrogates a target, then the target’s transponder shouts back a secret, encrypted code that says, “Don’t shoot, I’m on your team.”

In the isolation of a training exercise, IFF is fairly foolproof. In the strange chaos of Operation Epic Fury, it is a fragile tether.

On the night of the incident, Iran had saturated the airspace with an eclectic mix of different threats, ranging from ballistic missiles to slow-moving Shahed drones. When the sky is that “dirty,” the electronic noise is deafening.

The Kuwaiti Patriot batteries and short-range air defense (SHORAD) systems were likely operating in a deconfliction haze. If the F-15s were flying a specific profile, perhaps dipping low to avoid Iranian radar or operating in a blind spot for local electronic warfare, the Kuwaiti systems may have simply “timed out” while waiting for a response.

When operating in a high-threat environment, where a three-second delay could mean a drone hits critical infrastructure, the machine’s instinct is to fire. The F-15Es, although incredible at air-to-ground missions, lack certain modern tail warning sensors that would have alerted the pilots to a missile launch coming from their six o’clock, especially one fired by a friendly battery they weren’t expecting to be hostile.

The Clumsiness of Operation Epic Fury


Combined arms gets spoken of like it’s a perfectly conducted orchestra, but Epic Fury has proven it’s more like a 90’s mosh pit. The U.S., Israel, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia are all firing into the same narrow corridors. The coordination required to track every transponder in a massive drone-and-missile wave is dizzying.

By allowing Kuwaiti batteries to remain in a hair-trigger posture without a unified, real-time “God’s eye view” of the battlespace, we essentially left our pilots to play Russian roulette with their own side’s missile batteries.
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I just highlighted in orange a key factor, on top of the electronic noise happening from so many devices operating in a small geographic locale.
 
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First, our planes and pilots can't evade Kuwait? Isn't that like an NBA player getting blocked by a high school kid.

Second, how could this be a mistake? Don't we have technology and communication?

I'm waiting... USS Liberty people, where is the outrage?
Ah c'mon. No different that all the "mistakes" Israelis made when they bombed Christian churches, hospitals, journalists, and starving people lining up for food. And like Trump reminded us. "There are casualties in war" and "there will likely be more."

It's a dark day when any American soldier dies in battle. It's even darker when they die in "a war of choice" at the behest of "God's Chosen People." But there's a silver lining: Lindsay Graham and Donald Trump are safe and cozy in D.C. and they're surrounded by armed men who will keep them safe no matter what.

Anyway ... let's get back to reality:

 
Wouldn't it be simpler if all allied armies had a transponder database so they could identify friendlies
Main answer in post #10 here, but sometimes warplanes operate with transponder turned "OFF" to further confuse enemy radar, etc. If the pilots forgot to turn them back on before entering Kuwait's air-defense zone ...
 
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