Is There A Danger In Doubting.........

[luiza]

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is a deeply ideological, hardline Shia Islamist organization dedicated to protecting Iran's 1979 revolution and expanding its influence. It is widely considered a fanatical .....

Now I will give you a different picture , however preposterous it might seem to those fed for years on the official Theatre Script .

Decision making in Iran is up to date , cutting edge and professional .
However, the top wealth and ultimate power players have all been corrupted by the Israelis ( for decades ) and forces effectively acting on behalf of the City of London .
And telling you that they are all drug addicted and totally manipulated due to their sexual proclivities accurately summarises matters .

That's why they are "all in it together" and that includes the same situation for most of the top Russians .

I will leave that aspect because I fully realise that this is so different from the official story line that it will be received with incredulity and total disbelief .
So let it sink in for now as an apparent Lunatic's offering and let's see what develops .
As the Script unfolds .

The proposition is that City Of London lead the Deep State intent , backed by every major world power in terms of a Deep State governing body .
The intent is Theatre and the objectives are :-

A Replacement Financial System for the now useless present Debt based system
AND
Further Depopulation through engineered Energy and Food starvation .

Whilst the current Fake War ought to be dragged on until early autumn for top "starvation "effects, only having it run another three or four weeks works excellently for Deep State -- mainly in terms of fertilisers for crop planting ----- Yield determinants for back- end of this year and onwards .

So Trumpfy is not quite as mad as people have been led to speculate , and the Iranians are not been run by fanatic Religious individuals .
They are being run by Iranians who are close to the Rothschild family kingdom and with children educated in western Europe and America who are ready to finally cut resource deals within a new financial system background where they will be nominally in charge of their own country.

Action .
Let's see what they next roll out .
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[rightwinger]

Trump is like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown

He keeps making announcements that Iran has agreed to peace and the Strait is open

Morons like the OP believe him

 

[rightwinger]

I've never seen anyone so delusional to believe Trump in every circumstance. But there you are jumbo...swallowing it all.
One would think you would have learned your lesson by now. But you're incapable of learning anything. Did Mexico pay for the wall? Nope. Did Covid "go away like a miracle"? Nope. Did you crush that fifth bag of oreos by yourself? Yep.

The link above reads as follows:

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President Trump said in a phone interview that Iran has "agreed to everything," and will work with the U.S. to remove its enriched uranium.

He insisted that doing so will not involve U.S. ground troops. But when asked who would retrieve it, he would only say "our people."

"No. No troops," he said. "We'll go down and get it with them, and then we'll take it. We'll be getting it together because by that time, we'll have an agreement and there's no need for fighting when there's an agreement. Nice right? That's better. We would have done it the other way if we had to."

The president said the material would then be brought to the U.S.

"Our people, together with the Iranians, are going to work together to go get it. And then we'll take it to the United States," he said.

But within a couple of hours, a spokesperson for Iran's foreign ministry released a statement that said in translation, "Enriched uranium is as sacred to us as Iranian soil and will not be transferred anywhere under any circumstances," and went on to say that "transferring uranium to the United States has not been an option."

The president also told CBS News that Tehran agreed to stop backing proxy terrorist groups, like Hezbollah and Hamas.

When asked when he would be announcing the deal, Mr. Trump said the two sides are meeting this weekend and that the U.S. would continue its blockade "until we get it done."

Although Axios reported that the Trump administration was discussing the possibility of releasing $20 billion in frozen Iranian assets in exchange for its nuclear stockpile, the president denied it: "No, we are not paying 10 cents."

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So in a phone call, Iran is going to:

Give up it's uranium
Stop supporting Hezbollah
Stop supporting HAMAS

And we're not giving them anything.

All of that is what you believe, correct?

Is our President crazy?

He keeps making these announcements that he has peace and Iran has surrendered to his demands

Iran mocks him and keeps the Strait closed

 

[Lisa558]

He promised so much and has delivered on so little. He has made us a pariah in the world, an unstable, unreliable, militaristic, predator nation. He has insulted, mocked and threatened almost all of our friends. He has put America and the entire world on the edge of financial disaster. He has destroyed 80 years of American world leadership.

He has caused American families to turn each other. He has motivated American Christians to distort and pervert their religion. He has gravely degraded and misused America's law enforcement and legal institutions. He has further enriched himself and his cronies in the billions. He has been pure, destructive chaos since the day he re-entered the office.

And yet they're celebrating. They think this is the Golden Age.

This is a damn cult. Yes, it's falling apart now, but too slowly.

Thanks to Trump, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. That is the single best accomplishment of his Administration - and we still have 2/3rds to go!

 

[Zincwarrior]

It would be nice if somebody asked the Iranian people who they would like to see in office...

Or here.

 

[rightwinger]

Thanks to Trump, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. That is the single best accomplishment of his Administration - and we still have 2/3rds to go!

Obama did that without firing a shot

 

[Mac1958]

Thanks to Trump, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. That is the single best accomplishment of his Administration - and we still have 2/3rds to go!

^^^ Clearly it hasn't occurred to our resident geopolitical geniuses that Iran will now be fully motivated to BUY nukes, and/or use dirty bombs, and/or find other ways to avenge this. They are now far more motivated than ever. Not even close. They are unhinged, warlike religious zealots, like the Hegseth the Drunk™.

And that's even IF they were going to build and use nukes to BEGIN with, which is a reminder of the sales job leading up to Iraq. Neocons live in constant paranoia, and will lie to validate it.

All Iran has to do is survive. That's it. If they do, they "win" in their world.

 

[Lisa558]

^^^ Clearly it hasn't occurred to our resident geopolitical geniuses that Iran will now be fully motivated to BUY nukes, and/or use dirty bombs, and/or find other ways to avenge this. They are now far more motivated than ever. Not even close. They are unhinged, warlike religious zealots, like the Hegseth the Drunk™.

And that's even IF they were going to build and use nukes to BEGIN with, which is a reminder of the sales job leading up to Iraq. Neocons live in constant paranoia, and will lie to maintain it.

All Iran has to do is survive. If they do, they "win" in their world.

Apparently, our resident geopolitical expert here thinks that a better option was to definitely allow Islamic terrorists to have nukes NOW, rather than the possibility that someone will sell them to them at some point in the future,

You don’t think Iran was motivated to keep building nukes NOW? They are willing to see their entire country destroyed rather than give up their ability to kill Americans and annihilate Israel.

 

[Mac1958]

Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: “Based on everything we have seen — and I’ve seen it all — our bombing campaign obliterated Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons. Our massive bombs hit exactly the right spot at each target and worked perfectly. The impact of those bombs is buried under a mountain of rubble in Iran; so anyone who says the bombs were not devastating is just trying to undermine the President and the successful mission.”

Secretary Rubio: “Everything underneath that mountain is in bad shape … There’s no way Iran comes to the table if somehow nothing had happened. This was complete and total obliteration. They are in bad shape. They are way behind today compared to where they were just seven days ago because of what President Trump did.”

 

[Hafar1014]

.....anything that this guy Trump sets his hand to???????



1. I read a lot so this goes beyond my lifetime: I have never seen a President accomplish so much. What an incomparable record!!!
But this:

Trump says Iranians have "agreed to everything," including ...​

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2. But with whom is he dealing???
AI Overview
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has assumed de facto control over Iran’s government, economy, and security apparatus, especially after the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. As a military council, they manage daily operations and have blocked presidential decisions, controlling roughly one-third of Iran's GDP, including massive influence over construction, energy, and banking.




3. AI Overview
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is a deeply ideological, hardline Shia Islamist organization dedicated to protecting Iran's 1979 revolution and expanding its influence. It is widely considered a fanatical .....
.......Yes, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) deeply believes in the 12th Imam (Imam Mahdi), a central tenet of Twelver Shiite Islam, and this belief acts as a foundational, ideological, and strategic driver for the organization. The IRGC views itself as a military vehicle designed to prepare the groundwork for the 12th Imam's return to usher in a final era of justice.





4. "...the 12th Imam is held by devout Shi'ite Muslims to be a direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed who went into "occlusion" in the ninth century at the age of five and hasn't been seen since.

The Hidden Imam, as he is also known by his followers, will only return after a period of cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed – what Christians call the Apocalypse – and then lead the world into an era of universal peace.

...the merits of the 12th Imam finally brought home the reality of the danger his regime poses to world peace.

Rather than allaying concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions, Mr Ahmadinejad spoke at length about how a Muslim saviour would relieve the world's suffering.

The really alarming aspect is that – if the world's leading intelligence agencies are to be believed – he is seriously attempting to acquire a nuclear weapons arsenal.
Will the 12th Imam cause war with Iran?





5. "The IRGC's Eschatological Gamble
Whatever clerics and Revolutionary Guards commanders remain standing in Iran are actually men who have spent their entire lives inside an edifice that explicitly defined this moment for them,....expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran’s present rulers. This worldview and expectation, vividly expressed in speeches, articles, and even schoolbooks, clearly shape the perception and therefore the policies of Ahmadinejad and his disciples.”

Indeed, eschatological certainty possesses the capacity to mobilize populations; it’s almost a hypnotic force and grants its believers an enormous power to erode political constraints and manufacture sacrificial commitment on a vast scale. Which is why what distinguishes the IRGC from the ordinary zealot is their simultaneous mastery of genuine belief and its calculated instrumentalization, a combination that renders them considerably more formidable."

The IRGC's Eschatological Gamble and the Arab World's Verdict

How the Arab World Reads the IRGC

www.zinebriboua.com

These people look forward to a worlddwide conflagration.

There are two faction in Iran fighting foie control. The violent religious fanatics and more moderate group. Thats why we get conflicting messages. The people support the more moderate group so its likely they will win out in the end

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Iran has a rich civilization. Advanced medical facilities (before they were bombed). Great architecture. Beautiful artwork.

It HAD a rich civilization. Now it just has cretins ruling it you admire for their atavistic feral death cult. You hope it stays that way and starts firing nukes at us and our allies, is all.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown
He keeps making announcements that Iran has agreed to peace and the Strait is open
Morons like the OP believe him

And I just keep wondering how anyone can take anything he says seriously. They STILL think he's honest.

All you can do is wait for the action or the result. His words mean nothing.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

There are two faction in Iran fighting foie control. The violent religious fanatics and more moderate group. Thats why we get conflicting messages. The people support the more moderate group so its likely they will win out in the end

Currently it doesn't look like there is a way to get arms to the moderates, so it's now a matter of squeezing them until their own Guard takes the remaining criminals out and sues for terms.

 

[Hafar1014]

Currently it doesn't look like there is a way to get arms to the moderates, so it's now a matter of squeezing them until their own Guard takes the remaining criminals out and sues for terms.

Thats the question we gave arms to the Kurds and there is an organized armed resistance. I think its a matter of time