Is the US to blame for all of Cuba's ills?

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Then you should give him credit for being a big part of what's happening now in Cuba. Ding dong.

Who says I don't ? If Trump is indeed responsible for waking up the sheep in Cuba and sparking
a revolt against the gulag state of the criminal Castro brothers then of course I give him
lots of credit.

I've yet to see good solid information on the matter however.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Fuck off.

You post idiotic drivel. Why blame me?

 

[struth]

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You posted your opinion. I posted a PBS analysis. Keep whining.

A PBS analysis means nothing in the context of this issue.
I'm not "whining". I have nothing to whine about.

Again, sixty years of US policy towards Cuba went before whatever you think Trump did.

That's like saying the very last time you were slapped by your mother, not all the times before,
turned you into the pathetic clown you are. Now fuck off and stay fucked off!

Bullshit.

You posted your opinion. I posted a PBS analysis. Keep whining.

A PBS analysis means nothing in the context of this issue.
I'm not "whining". I have nothing to whine about.

Again, sixty years of US policy towards Cuba went before whatever you think Trump did.

That's like saying the very last time you were slapped by your mother, not all the times before,
turned you into the pathetic clown you now are. Now fuck off and stay fucked off!

Obama rolled back sanctions and made things easier for the communist regime in Cuba. So you lose again.

Yeah, Obama made things easier for his commie pals and friends.
Trump went back to the way it's been for decades.

I guess the new Cuban leader isn't doing so well. So what?
Trump isn't president any longer, genius.

This Was Monroe's Original Doctrine, But the Deep State Stopped Him in 1818

Trump is President of Great America, which will annex Cuba as soon as the Cubans free themselves, as we will from Pinko-State America.

 

[surada]

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

And old Joe continues dumb Don’s policy, yet wingers on both sides think the two assholes are somehow diametrically opposed. CRAZY!

I expect Biden to lift the sanctions.

 

[surada]

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

Mexico City. He could have lifted the sanctions in 2006.

Chavez was elected because VZ had no middle class left after 80 years of oil revenues and US approved dictators.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Cuba citizens are responsible for Cuba

Godspeed to those seeking freedom

Yea, can't agree with you on that one. If citizens are not allowed firearms and risk being shot by the government it's tough to take responsibility.

The populace always out numbers the government

The fear of being shot kinda evens out those numbers.

Hopefully you're a 2nd Amendment advocate

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

The media tries to smear Trump again, I mean still, and fails, again.

 

[struth]

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

And old Joe continues dumb Don’s policy, yet wingers on both sides think the two assholes are somehow diametrically opposed. CRAZY!

I expect Biden to lift the sanctions.

i frankly am surprised he hasn’t already bailed out the oppressive leftist regime. He seems to be siding with them over the people wanting a free society

 

[surada]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

Actually what Chavez did with Petro Caribe was pretty smart.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

You have to snicker at people who moan about the poor people of Cuba while advocating the same shit here in the US.

All I can do is smh

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Chavez was elected because VZ had no middle class left after 80 years of oil revenues

How's their middle class doing today? Still eating their pets?

 

[struth]

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

Mexico City. He could have lifted the sanctions in 2006.

Chavez was elected because VZ had no middle class left after 80 years of oil revenues and US approved dictators.

a president t can’t lift US law.

What reason would Bush have had to do that?

when are you going to provide a link to this threat anyway?

i am not talking about Chavez, he was dead by the time Trump put sanctions on Cuba

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

This Was Monroe's Original Doctrine, But the Deep State Stopped Him in 1818

Trump is President of Great America, which will annex Cuba as soon as the Cubans free themselves, as we will from Pinko-State America.

Have to deal with the Obama regime, as regurgitated by mentally defective Joe Biden, first.

Joe is lifting some sanctions on Iran, for instance, and who loves Iran like Barry Obama and his
talking monkey, Valerie Jarrett do? Probably as a reward for helping Palestinians shoot missiles
into Israel recently onto the civilian population.

 

[surada]

Chavez was elected because VZ had no middle class left after 80 years of oil revenues

How's their middle class doing today? Still eating their pets?

The bottom fell out on the ppb.

 

[struth]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

Actually what Chavez did with Petro Caribe was pretty smart.

Hugo was an oppressive dictator and his replacement was worse.

Venezuela was one of the richest nations in Earth and the leftist policies ended with their people eating dogs to survive

 

[gipper]

Im

At least you acknowledge you don't support free markets.

So you don't have a link? OK.

Remember the huge oil discovery off of Cuba? They invited all the oil majors to a meeting in Mexico City.. I think it was at the Marriott. Bush threatened them.. Must have been about 2006 or so.

I believe the oil discovery was 2008...Octoberish...during the Obama regime...and it was the Obama regime that raised concerns a few years later: Oil discovery in Cuba gets US notice

Nonetheless, all nothing was found and the oil companies left a by 2013: Companies abandon search for oil in Cuba's deep waters

Nice attempt to rewrite history though and try to blame the US, and a republican.

Nope. It was when Dubya was president. Feb 2006

https://cri.fiu.edu/research/commissioned-reports/oil-cuba-alvarado.pdf

The Reality of a Cuban Oil Bonanza
In December 2004, the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro announced that they had
discovered a significant oil reserve off the northwest coast of the island. More
importantly, the potential of the oil finds could dramatically decrease the island’s
dependence on imported oil and could serve as boon to the Cuban economy. There has
been much conjecture of the size and scope of oil reserves in the 59 offshore tracts in
Cuban exclusive economic zone (EEZ). The working estimates are that there are a
potential of 120 thousand barrels of oil per day, perhaps more, but the sea floor is over a
mile deep and the oil reserves perhaps an additional 3,000 feet beneath the sea floor.

Looks like the Obama regime continued to have concerns as I highlighted...I don't see where Bush did anything you suggested though....

With that said...it appears the Castro regime lied anyway...as no oil was found and companies left....typical leftist...nothing but lies

Many have noted that Bush and Obama were pretty much the same.

They weren't....the law at the time said US businesses couldn't do business there.

Obama relaxed those laws, in an attempt to bailout the oppressive, tyrants that ran Cuba

Yes. I know.. I was wrong .. it was Sheraton in Mexico City not Marriott that Bush threatened. ... Obama did lift the sanctions, but Trump shut down the Marriott in Havana as soon as he took office.

And old Joe continues dumb Don’s policy, yet wingers on both sides think the two assholes are somehow diametrically opposed. CRAZY!

I expect Biden to lift the sanctions.

I betting he doesn’t. He’s a neocon after all.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

Actually what Chavez did with Petro Caribe was pretty smart.

Face facts, Socialism destroyed Venezuela... it's a cancer that's never worked....and never will.
A failed economic platform

 

[pknopp]

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

You have to snicker at people who moan about the poor people of Cuba while advocating the same shit here in the US.

All I can do is smh

Who supports cutting people off from the things they need?

 

[gipper]

US sanctions

where did Bush do that?

the law at the time said US businesses couldn’t do business with Cuba. Bush didn’t make the law.

Yes Trump put sanctions back on Cuba after they backed the oppressive dictator of Venezuela

And properly so. That is the proper response to a nation that is an oppressive monster to it's own people
and tries to aid another dictator/butcher, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela spread socialist misery to other nations.

Actually what Chavez did with Petro Caribe was pretty smart.

Hugo was an oppressive dictator and his replacement was worse.

Venezuela was one of the richest nations in Earth and the leftist policies ended with their people eating dogs to survive

US sanctions and constant coup attempts had a lot to do that too.