Is the Ukraine war an Example of Declining US and Euro Power?

[Donald H]

Fyodor Lukyanov: Why the ‘world majority’ sees the Ukraine conflict as an example of declining European and North American power

Most believe ethnic Europeans are colonialists and hope to end their stranglehold on power

www.rt.com

The talking points are contained in the link. I think I'll leave it at that and not express any further views on the question.

 

[Polishprince]

You may well have a point here. President Putin has been building relationships with nations in Latin America, Africa, Asia during the Ukraine war- both as trading partners and allies. Has Zelenskyy- or Sleepy Joe for that matter- met with African leaders to bring those fellows up to speed on what's happening?

Not really, Biden and the libs are all "euro-centric", and that's why they've been unable to defeat the Russian Federation.

 

[Donald H]

You may well have a point here. President Putin has been building relationships with nations in Latin America, Africa, Asia during the Ukraine war- both as trading partners and allies. Has Zelenskyy- or Sleepy Joe for that matter- met with African leaders to bring those fellows up to speed on what's happening?

Not really, Biden and the libs are all "euro-centric", and that's why they've been unable to defeat the Russian Federation.

The point is though, either America or Russia has the ability to end this war within a week if either got serious.

Why doesn't Russia just do it?

Why doesn't America just do it?

There are different answers to the two different questions. Why is everybody afraid to answer either?

I'll take a shot at the second question: Because that would start a nuclear war.

The first question is more difficult to answer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The absolute idiocy of the Rus not taking Kyev in the first week is an example why it is destined to lose the war. It has no coordinated command, control, and communication sophisticated to manage the war successfully.

 

[kyzr]

You may well have a point here. President Putin has been building relationships with nations in Latin America, Africa, Asia during the Ukraine war- both as trading partners and allies. Has Zelenskyy- or Sleepy Joe for that matter- met with African leaders to bring those fellows up to speed on what's happening?
Not really, Biden and the libs are all "euro-centric", and that's why they've been unable to defeat the Russian Federation.

Biden's "war on energy" is why Russia has not "compromised" for a peace agreement.
If Trump was president and the US was drilling more and the price of oil was much lower, Russia would not have as much money to support the Ukrainian war. Joe Biden is stupid, that is the main problem.

 

[kyzr]

The absolute idiocy of the Rus not taking Kyiv in the first week is an example why it is destined to lose the war. It has no coordinated command, control, and communication sophisticated to manage the war successfully.

Actually Putin badly misjudged the capabilities of both militaries. QED.

 

[Marener]

Biden's "war on energy" is why Russia has not "compromised" for a peace agreement.
If Trump was president and the US was drilling more and the price of oil was much lower, Russia would not have as much money to support the Ukrainian war. Joe Biden is stupid, that is the main problem.

Domestic oil producers won't drill oil if they lose money on it. There's always going to be a market for cheap Russian oil.

 

[Donald H]

The absolute idiocy of the Rus not taking Kyev in the first week is an example why it is destined to lose the war. It has no coordinated command, control, and communication sophisticated to manage the war successfully.

You're not accepting Russia's claim that it was intended to be a special military operation that was well short of a war.
If you can show you have some kind of an understanding, we might have something to discuss.

To suggest that Russia has mobilized for war is simply a non-starter.

 

[Polishprince]

Domestic oil producers won't drill oil if they lose money on it. There's always going to be a market for cheap Russian oil.

The reason they lose money on domestic oil is because Biden imposes taxes and regulations making it prohibitive. Biden has a vendetta against fracking, hates natural gas and coal, and despises pipelines. Transporting oil by pipeline is a lot more efficient than trucking or railroads, John Rockefeller knew that even back in the 1800s. But Biden shut down the pipeline.

 

[Marener]

The reason they lose money on domestic oil is because Biden imposes taxes and regulations making it prohibitive. Biden has a vendetta against fracking, hates natural gas and coal, and despises pipelines. Transporting oil by pipeline is a lot more efficient than trucking or railroads, John Rockefeller knew that even back in the 1800s. But Biden shut down the pipeline.

Regulations are important to protect the environment, unless you want to just let producers pollute the country and destroy the health of the locals.

 

[Donald H]

Actually Putin badly misjudged the capabilities of both militaries. QED.

No, but there's a popular belief that Putin misjudged America's intentions.

 

[Polishprince]

Regulations are important to protect the environment, unless you want to just let producers pollute the country and destroy the health of the locals.

Sure. But trucking and rail transport of oil is just as environmentally hazardous as pipelines. Probably more so.

 

[kyzr]

Domestic oil producers won't drill oil if they lose money on it. There's always going to be a market for cheap Russian oil.

The US has more oil reserves than anyone, and stupid Joe just lets the price rise.

U.S. Has World’s Largest Oil Reserves | OilPrice.com

Rystad Energy, a Norwegian consultancy, has found that the U.S. holds the most oil reserves of any country in the world, a finding that comes after comparing similar metrics across all countries

oilprice.com

 

[kyzr]

No, but there's a popular belief that Putin misjudged America's intentions.

When Ukraine gave up its nukes the US and NATO guaranteed their security. Putin is a dumbass, he bet on the wrong horse.

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Marener]

The US has more oil reserves than anyone, and stupid Joe just lets the price rise.

U.S. Has World’s Largest Oil Reserves | OilPrice.com

Rystad Energy, a Norwegian consultancy, has found that the U.S. holds the most oil reserves of any country in the world, a finding that comes after comparing similar metrics across all countries

oilprice.com

And we are pumping more oil than ever before.

The U.S. is pumping oil faster than ever. Republicans don't care.

GOP presidential candidates are blaming pump prices on President Joe Biden’s clean energy policies, even though the U.S. is churning out record amounts of oil.

www.politico.com

But that doesn't mean it's cheap to do so.

 

[Donald H]

The US has more oil reserves than anyone, and stupid Joe just lets the price rise.

U.S. Has World’s Largest Oil Reserves | OilPrice.com

Rystad Energy, a Norwegian consultancy, has found that the U.S. holds the most oil reserves of any country in the world, a finding that comes after comparing similar metrics across all countries

oilprice.com

Almost assuredly not true. This claim was invented to provide cover over the accusation that America's wars were all for oil and not really gaining access to the world's spring cabbage crop in the ME.

In any case, America's main motivation in the Ukraine and elsewhere is the quest to attain control over the world's remaining oil and other resources.

Russia is the largest remaining prize!

 

[kyzr]

Almost assuredly not true. This claim was invented to provide cover over the accusation that America's wars were all for oil and not really gaining access to the world's spring cabbage crop in the ME. In any case, America's main motivation in the Ukraine and elsewhere is the quest to attain control over the world's remaining oil and other resources. Russia is the largest remaining prize!

It is true. The US has the most oil.
The US has no designs on capturing Russia.
The US and NATO simply will NOT allow Putin to start devouring other sovereign neighboring countries.

 

[Donald H]

When Ukraine gave up its nukes the US and NATO guaranteed their security. Putin is a dumbass, he bet on the wrong horse.

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Putin was a dumbass for trusting America's promises to not infringe further on Russia's borders.

But he's rebounded in the interests of mother Russia and he's done it with impressive strength and conviction.

He's taken America's gameplan and responded with a counterplan that has provided Russia with at least a temporary stalemate.

We know the obvious reason why America is stalemated by Russia, but we still don't really understand why on the question on why Russia doesn't just go ahead and win it?

 

[Donald H]

It is true. The US has the most oil.

Not worth my time to disprove.

The US has no designs on capturing Russia.
The US and NATO simply will NOT allow Putin to start devouring other sovereign neighboring countries.

You have the talking point!

In actual fact it's no different than any of America's 35-40 other wars of aggression since the end of WW2.

The moxy, after the exposure of crimes against humanity in Iraq!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Biden's "war on energy" is why Russia has not "compromised" for a peace agreement.
If Trump was president and the US was drilling more and the price of oil was much lower, Russia would not have as much money to support the Ukrainian war. Joe Biden is stupid, that is the main problem.

What a sophomoric comment reflecting no concept of strategic energy reality.

We are pumping all time highs of energy.

Saudi Arabia is playing its hand extremely well and doubled down with Russia on OPEC cuts.

In the meantime, Russia continues to stumble on the eastern front. It is only a matter of time before it withdraws.