Zone1 Is the Robert Marshall near death experience True, or False?

Is the testimony of near death experiencer Mr. Robert Marshall, True, or False?

  • False

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • True

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • I am hopeful this could be true, but I want to hear the testimony of his doctors and his nurses?!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6
No. I meant the source for the events was AI and it (AI) supposedly found the events on Instagram.

His first book is definitely not AI. I didn’t even test it. The second book I thought was definitely AI because I found the pacing and structures of the chapters to have a kind of repetition. Kind of like a record producer who’s trying to mimic the style of a #1 artist, but with different musicians who just aren’t as original or good.

Now, imagine what I have to answer for to Yeshua if I’m wrong. Oh boy! Everyone’s a critic. Anyway, I ran over 1500 words through a free analyzer and I was shocked. It had a very low probability. Maybe someone with a lot of disposable income will run a couple of chapters through an analyzer to where we might get different results. 1500 words isn’t really enough in this case.

Back to the topic, to my ears that does not sound like Yeshua. Where are the great parables?! I know He told the disciples that when He returns he won’t be speaking that way, but come on, man! If it’s not broken don’t fix it (I’m doing my best Joe Biden impression. Hopefully I nailed it).

My discernment, being what it is, tells me it’s not Him. You’re listening to it now so soon you will be enlightened one way or the other.

The only other person that I know who’s listened to the book is my wife, she’s Catholic, but usually keeps an open mind as long as you’re not condemning the Universal Church. She was begging me to stop playing it. She thought I was playing the same chapter over and over.

It’s the repeating style and structure that I believe was causing her misconception. Plus the AI voices add to the feeling. If she was actually reading it instead of listening to it, it might not come across that way.

So, pretty much Jesus takes Robert to a special place in one chapter like the Valley of Mirrors. He shows him the how’s and why’s through his own introspection or through the examples of others. Robert learns and then they move on to say maybe… the 11 Seas of Secret Herbs and Spices. Once again Jesus shows Robert through his own introspection or others the secrets to the Colonel’s famous Kentucky Fried Chicken. Sorry, I got bored with my own repetition. Yeshua’s probably rolling His eyes with that one for sure. It’s a good thing I’m not Catholic…. Just think about all the Hail Mary’s I’d have say. And the rulers!!! My hands hurt every time I listen to Only the Good Die Young by Billy Joel.

Anyway, my discernment is broken. Hopefully your wife listens to it as well. I’m kind of interested to hear her take on it as well.

I just finished listening to the online book that you gave me the link to. I was more than a little impressed by how his questions to Jesus, sound very much like every interview that he has done since I first found his NDE account on the Pastor Randy Kay youtube channel.

That book is right now playing again in the background. I am more than a little impressed at how well this astonishing book fits with the visionary dream given to pastor Rick Joyner back in 1995, in the three books, "The Final Quest," "The Call," and "The Torch and the Sword."

Those three books by Pastor Rick Joyner answered many of my own questions. We know that the Rick Joyner books were not done by Artificial Intelligence due to there being on the market for three decades.









Rick Joyner surged into the same league with C. S. Lewis after a visionary dream of heaven. It is easier to believe that Pastor Rick was given a visionary dream, than to assume that he is some sort of Christian Literary Genius with even more brain power than C. S. Lewis had?





 
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I just finished listening to the online book that you gave me the link to. I was more than a little impressed by how his questions to Jesus, sound very much like every interview that he has done since I first found his NDE account on the Pastor Randy Kay youtube channel.

That book is right now playing again in the background. I am more than a little impressed at how well this astonishing book fits with the visionary dream given to pastor Rick Joyner back in 1995, in the three books, "The Final Quest," "The Call," and "The Torch and the Sword."

Those three books by Pastor Rick Joyner answered many of my own questions. We know that the Rick Joyner books were not done by Artificial Intelligence due to there being on the market for three decades.








It could just be me. I’m expecting the great parables. You know, the ones that make you go wow! The ones that really make you think. Of course if Yeshua was to give me a modern parable I would probably complain that it’s too over my head and ask Him to speak like a normal person. I’m soooooo horrible like that. Glad you were able to listen to the audiobook.

Oh! Has he fixed the chapter where he had a typo with the word “like” and the AI voiced Yeshua pronounced it “li key”?
 
It could just be me. I’m expecting the great parables. You know, the ones that make you go wow! The ones that really make you think. Of course if Yeshua was to give me a modern parable I would probably complain that it’s too over my head and ask Him to speak like a normal person. I’m soooooo horrible like that. Glad you were able to listen to the audiobook.

Oh! Has he fixed the chapter where he had a typo with the word “like” and the AI voiced Yeshua pronounced it “li key”?

I didn't notice that problem, [but then again I was doing a few other things at the same time that his book played in the background].

I do believe that your questions and skepticism will be read by many of the Pastors and others who end up working with Robert and Carol Marshall. The fact that you haven't given up but you are still listening to him and doing your research means that your basic approach to what he is saying is significantly like the Bereans.

According to Acts 17:11, the Bereans are described as "noble-minded" because they received the gospel with eagerness and diligently searched the Old Testament Scriptures daily to verify the teachings of Paul and Silas. They tested what they heard against Scripture, leading to many believing, thus setting an example for critically examining teaching.
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Key Aspects of the Bereans' Study:
  • Noble Attitude: They were open-minded, receptive, and eager to hear the message, yet not gullible.
  • Daily Examination: Their search was not a one-time event, but a dedicated, daily practice to study the Scriptures to confirm the authenticity of Paul's teachings.
 
It could just be me. I’m expecting the great parables. You know, the ones that make you go wow! The ones that really make you think. Of course if Yeshua was to give me a modern parable I would probably complain that it’s too over my head and ask Him to speak like a normal person. I’m soooooo horrible like that. Glad you were able to listen to the audiobook.

Oh! Has he fixed the chapter where he had a typo with the word “like” and the AI voiced Yeshua pronounced it “li key”?


Robert's first book has a huge amount of medical updates to his case.

His wife Carol writes nearly half of his first book.

 
Robert's first book has a huge amount of medical updates to his case.

His wife Carol writes nearly half of his first book.

You’re killing me softly with this one. Lol. I’m just going to call Robert’s home phone # since no one answered the email I sent to carolmarshall_xxxx@hotmail.com.

The only way to verify what she wrote is by actually seeing the medical records or having some of the doctors make a public statement. I’m hoping he gets tired of reading my posts and complies.

Maybe he can ask Yeshua to pick me up as a “Hitchhiker to Heaven”. That’s another way to verify all of this. If Michael Landon is driving the car that stops to pick me up, he’d better have Lorne Greene riding shotgun with him. Oh ya! I get to write that book. Not Robert. Hopefully you remember Highway to Heaven.

Crap! I may have just accidentally given Robert a title for his next book —44 Hours on the Highway to Heaven. I’m glad no one reads this thread but us.
 
You’re killing me softly with this one. Lol. I’m just going to call Robert’s home phone # since no one answered the email I sent to carolmarshall_xxxx@hotmail.com.

The only way to verify what she wrote is by actually seeing the medical records or having some of the doctors make a public statement. I’m hoping he gets tired of reading my posts and complies.

Maybe he can ask Yeshua to pick me up as a “Hitchhiker to Heaven”. That’s another way to verify all of this. If Michael Landon is driving the car that stops to pick me up, he’d better have Lorne Greene riding shotgun with him. Oh ya! I get to write that book. Not Robert. Hopefully you remember Highway to Heaven.

Crap! I may have just accidentally given Robert a title for his next book —44 Hours on the Highway to Heaven. I’m glad no one reads this thread but us.


I do believe that the stage is all set up for Robert Marshall's nurses and doctors to do a documentary or reality film series where they talk openly about how shocked they were that Mrs. Carol Marshall's husband did not end up a vegetable, [he had been referred to as the "potato in room seven" by some of his nurses, but he hears this being said while he is floating around in a higher invisible dimension of space and time]?

Dr. Gouda is automatically a "Star" in this proposed film series!

In 1943, decades before Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained String Theory to us in high school level English, near death experiencer Dr. George Ritchie, explains about the invisible higher dimensions of space and time quite brilliantly.

[Dr. George Ritchie] :

b. His Guided Tour of the​

Ritchie suddenly became aware that he and Jesus were moving. One moment he had been in the hospital, and the next it had completely vanished. The vivid scenes from his life that had surrounded him were gone as well. Now, he found himself high above the Earth, traveling toward a distant point of light.

As they approached, the tiny point expanded into what looked like a large city. It was nighttime, yet the city was alive – factory smokestacks poured into the sky, and buildings glowed with lights on every floor. Beyond the city lay a large body of water. Though unfamiliar, it was clearly a place driven by constant industrial activity, likely tied to wartime production.

As they moved through the city, Ritchie began to notice something strange. Again and again, he saw people who seemed completely unaware of others standing right beside them. In one scene, a woman desperately begged another for a cigarette, but she was ignored. The woman reached again and again, trying to grab it – even attempting to take it directly from the other woman’s mouth – but she could not grasp it. With a sudden realization, Ritchie understood: like himself, she was dead.

They witnessed other scenes just like this. A young man followed his father from room to room, apologizing over and over, but his father could not hear him. A boy trailed a girl through a school hallway, repeating his regret endlessly. A woman pleaded for forgiveness from a man who remained unaware of her presence. These figures were trapped, speaking to the living, yet unable to reach them.

When Ritchie asked why this was happening, the answer came to him as a clear thought: these were suicides, bound to the consequences of their actions.

He then noticed something else. Every living person was surrounded by a faint glow, like a thin layer of light covering their bodies. This glow moved with them, almost like a second skin. The dead, including himself, did not have it.

Soon they entered a crowded bar near what appeared to be a naval base. The room was filled with sailors and civilians drinking heavily. But among them were other figures – desperate, restless beings who tried again and again to pick up drinks but could not. Their hands passed through glasses, through the bar, even through other people. Like Ritchie, they lacked the glowing sheath of light.

It became clear that the living could not see or feel these beings. Yet the dead could see and hear each other. Arguments broke out among them over drinks none could actually consume.

Then Ritchie saw something startling. A sailor collapsed, and as he lost consciousness, the glowing light around him opened at the top. Instantly, one of the disembodied beings leapt toward the opening and vanished. Moments later, there was only one figure where there had been two. This happened again and again – suggesting that these desperate beings were trying to enter the bodies of the living.

Ritchie began to understand. These spirits seemed driven by intense cravings – especially for things like alcohol – that they could no longer satisfy without a physical body. The realization sent a chill through him. This endless craving, combined with complete inability to fulfill it, felt like a form of hell.

He had always imagined hell as a distant place of fire and punishment. But now he saw another possibility: a state of being right here on Earth, invisible to the living, where desire burned strongest precisely where it could never be satisfied.

And then came a deeper realization – this was not just a possibility. This was reality. And he himself was part of it.



Vibor Blue... you are kind of perfect for the role of the narrator who is kind of like a news anchor and your skepticism is something that cannot be faked, [but sets you up to be able to connect with other "skeptics" brilliantly]? Or.. .you could write a script for any other narrator that you would choose!


"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"


The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it?
An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
.
...

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."


"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
 
I do believe that the stage is all set up for Robert Marshall's nurses and doctors to do a documentary or reality film series where they talk openly about how shocked they were that Mrs. Carol Marshall's husband did not end up a vegetable, [he had been referred to as the "potato in room seven" by some of his nurses, but he hears this being said while he is floating around in a higher invisible dimension of space and time]?

Dr. Gouda is automatically a "Star" in this proposed film series!

In 1943, decades before Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained String Theory to us in high school level English, near death experiencer Dr. George Ritchie, explains about the invisible higher dimensions of space and time quite brilliantly.



Vibor Blue... you are kind of perfect for the role of the narrator who is kind of like a news anchor and your skepticism is something that cannot be faked, [but sets you up to be able to connect with other "skeptics" brilliantly]? Or.. .you could write a script for any other narrator that you would choose!
I hope you’re right about a documentary. Here’s Dr. Guda’s contact info:


I’m going to ask him to go on record about the case and hopefully others will follow. He’s a graduate from Oral Robert’s University, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a Christian or whether he feels he has a moral obligation to fulfill. Robert, will of course have to give him permission to do so due to patient confidentiality but I’m sure that could be worked out.

As far as narration goes… No AI unless it’s a cartoon voice. Maybe Scooby Doo, Homer Simpson, or Cartman from South Park. I’m not sure if the kids these days would recognize any of the old Looney Tunes characters but they would be good as well. Robert kind of reminds me of Mel Torme‘ from when he used to do guest appearances on Night Court back in the 80’s. I can see the documentary taking place on a golf course. He might even have an encounter with Happy Gilmore? Who knows?
 
I hope you’re right about a documentary. Here’s Dr. Guda’s contact info:


I’m going to ask him to go on record about the case and hopefully others will follow. He’s a graduate from Oral Robert’s University, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a Christian or whether he feels he has a moral obligation to fulfill. Robert, will of course have to give him permission to do so due to patient confidentiality but I’m sure that could be worked out.

As far as narration goes… No AI unless it’s a cartoon voice. Maybe Scooby Doo, Homer Simpson, or Cartman from South Park. I’m not sure if the kids these days would recognize any of the old Looney Tunes characters but they would be good as well. Robert kind of reminds me of Mel Torme‘ from when he used to do guest appearances on Night Court back in the 80’s. I can see the documentary taking place on a golf course. He might even have an encounter with Happy Gilmore? Who knows?


WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be awesome if you were to put this general idea in front of your family or friends, [or at least one or two or three of them], because the background research that YOU have already done on all of this is extremely valuable!
 
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be awesome if you were to put this general idea in front of your family or friends, [or at least one or two or three of them], because the background research that YOU have already done on all of this is extremely valuable!
I was making light of the idea of course. I do think your idea is good. It should be done by a professional. If Robert ever reads these threads I’m afraid he would come to the wrong conclusion. He’s still our brother. I don’t hate him. The only thing I would be angry about is if he is intentionally bearing false witness against Christ and then he has an even bigger issue to deal with.

It wouldn’t take much effort on his part to bring this issue to a head. I know on the surface all the things he’s saying in his books, interviews, etc. sounds very sincere and truthful. What harm could it possibly be causing?

The age of the earth isn’t much of a concern to me, our pets being in Heaven (my favorite), but what about Hell? Say, in the future someone takes the mark of the beast. They are surely damned to Hell, right? Robert introduced a loophole in my opinion. He said that Jesus told him we send ourselves to Hell, not Him. Okay, so someone takes the mark in order to survive, but when they die what happens? According to Robert they will get another chance because they get to choose whether they go to Heaven or Hell. Perhaps they will feel they deserve Hell and will make the call all on their own, or perhaps their free will and pain avoidance will kick in and they choose Heaven. There’s the possibility that most of us are mistaken in our interpretation regarding the mark, but they most definitely face the wrath of God and the angels witness them being tortured by flames and brimstone Revelation 14:10.
 
I was making light of the idea of course. I do think your idea is good. It should be done by a professional. If Robert ever reads these threads I’m afraid he would come to the wrong conclusion. He’s still our brother. I don’t hate him. The only thing I would be angry about is if he is intentionally bearing false witness against Christ and then he has an even bigger issue to deal with.

It wouldn’t take much effort on his part to bring this issue to a head. I know on the surface all the things he’s saying in his books, interviews, etc. sounds very sincere and truthful. What harm could it possibly be causing?

The age of the earth isn’t much of a concern to me, our pets being in Heaven (my favorite), but what about Hell? Say, in the future someone takes the mark of the beast. They are surely damned to Hell, right? Robert introduced a loophole in my opinion. He said that Jesus told him we send ourselves to Hell, not Him. Okay, so someone takes the mark in order to survive, but when they die what happens? According to Robert they will get another chance because they get to choose whether they go to Heaven or Hell. Perhaps they will feel they deserve Hell and will make the call all on their own, or perhaps their free will and pain avoidance will kick in and they choose Heaven. There’s the possibility that most of us are mistaken in our interpretation regarding the mark, but they most definitely face the wrath of God and the angels witness them being tortured by flames and brimstone Revelation 14:10.

One of the best explanations for the "Mark of the Beast" was given to near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley back in 1975.

Now in 2026 we can fairly easily understand a lot more about what Dannion was shown about this future event.

[Dannion Brinkley] :

"BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)

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I was making light of the idea of course. I do think your idea is good. It should be done by a professional. If Robert ever reads these threads I’m afraid he would come to the wrong conclusion. He’s still our brother. I don’t hate him. The only thing I would be angry about is if he is intentionally bearing false witness against Christ and then he has an even bigger issue to deal with.

It wouldn’t take much effort on his part to bring this issue to a head. I know on the surface all the things he’s saying in his books, interviews, etc. sounds very sincere and truthful. What harm could it possibly be causing?

The age of the earth isn’t much of a concern to me, our pets being in Heaven (my favorite), but what about Hell? Say, in the future someone takes the mark of the beast. They are surely damned to Hell, right? Robert introduced a loophole in my opinion. He said that Jesus told him we send ourselves to Hell, not Him. Okay, so someone takes the mark in order to survive, but when they die what happens? According to Robert they will get another chance because they get to choose whether they go to Heaven or Hell. Perhaps they will feel they deserve Hell and will make the call all on their own, or perhaps their free will and pain avoidance will kick in and they choose Heaven. There’s the possibility that most of us are mistaken in our interpretation regarding the mark, but they most definitely face the wrath of God and the angels witness them being tortured by flames and brimstone Revelation 14:10.


The astonishingly gifted Rick Joyner was shown that Three Armies are being raised up now in our time period. These Three Armies are somewhat like the Philadelphia Era of the church of Revelation three but the Third Army is like the majority of us at pretty much any time period over the past two millennia.

[Rick Joyner, The Call] :

Chapter 10: The Army​

Suddenly, I was standing on a high mountain overlooking a great plain. Before me, there was an army marching on a wide front. There were 12 divisions in the vanguard that stood out sharply from the great multitude of soldiers who followed behind them. These divisions were further divided into what I assumed to be regiments, battalions, companies and squads. The divisions were distinguished by their banners, and the regiments were distinguished by their different colored uniforms.

Battalions, companies and squads were distinguished by such things as sashes or epaulets that each different group wore. All wore armor that was polished silver, shields that appeared to be pure gold, and weapons that were both silver and gold. The banners were huge, 30 to 40 feet long. As the soldiers marched, their armor and weapons flashed in the sun like lightening, and the flapping of the banners and the tread of their feet sounded like rolling thunder. I did not think that the earth had ever witnessed anything like this before.

Slide from Lessons

Then I was close enough to see their faces—male and female, old and young from every race. There was a fierce resolution on their faces, yet they did not seem tense. War was in the air, but in the ranks I could sense such a profound peace that I knew that not a single one feared the battle to which they were marching. The spiritual atmosphere that I felt when close to them was as awesome as their appearance.

I looked at their uniforms. The colors were brilliant. Every soldier also wore rank insignias and medals. The generals and other higher ranking officers marched in the ranks with the others. Although it was obvious that those with higher rank were in charge, no one seemed overly sensitive to their rank. From the highest ranking officer to the lowest, they all seemed to be close friends. It was an army of what seemed to be unprecedented discipline, yet it also seemed to be just one big family.

As I studied them, they seemed selfless—not because they lacked identity, but because they were all so sure of who they were and what they were doing. They were not consumed with themselves or seeking recognition. I could not detect ambition or pride anywhere in the ranks. It was stunning to see so many who were so unique, yet in such harmony and marching in perfect step. I was sure that there had never been an army on earth like this.

Slide from Lessons

Then I was behind the front divisions looking at a much larger group that was composed of hundreds of divisions. Each of these was a different size, with the smallest numbering about two thousand and the largest in the hundreds of thousands. Although this group was not as sharp and colorful as the first one, this also was an awesome army simply because of its size. This group also had banners, but they were not nearly as large and impressive as those of the first group’s. They all had uniforms and ranks, but I was surprised that many of these did not even have on a full set of armor, and many did not have weapons. The armor and weapons that they did have were not nearly as polished and bright as those of the first group.

[Rick Joyner, The Call, Chapter 10]



The Third Army that is also there in chapter ten, in a way probably corresponds with The Laodicean Era of the Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who is predicted to largely fall into being "lukewarm" partly due to the astonishing material blessings that are about to be released to our children and grandchildren who survive through the up coming years and decades.


7“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,
‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”: 8“I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
13“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
The Lukewarm Church
14“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 15“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked— 18I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. 21To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
22“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’ ”





The separation from the members of the Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who DO NOT fall into being "Lukewarm" might reminds us somewhat of:


Messiah, Barabbas & the Mystery of the Two Goats | Jonathan Cahn Sermon | Resurrection Day 2025​



And of this statement by the Apostle Paul:

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

It is interesting that that particular man who was "given to Azazel - Satan" for the destruction of the flesh did apparently repent and in 2 Corinthians was taken back into fellowship with the Corinthian Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile community.
 
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One of the best explanations for the "Mark of the Beast" was given to near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley back in 1975.

Now in 2026 we can fairly easily understand a lot more about what Dannion was shown about this future event.
I really like what Dannion had to say about the Mark of the Beast. It’s as if it was a dystopian smash-up of 1984 and Logan’s Run. It’s brilliant, except it seems to be missing the persecution/beheading of Christians. We all know who is currently practicing that particular method of death in modern times.

The chip being described seems like something Bill Gates would devise. Elon would fit the bill better, but I believe he is morally more upright and would never resort to such a thing. However, a lack of resources necessary for survival can change almost anyone.

I did a quick read of Revelation yesterday and I realized why some people feel that they won’t be damned to the Lake of Fire if they take the mark.

It doesn’t specifically say that the ones who take the mark will go to Hell. The beast and the false prophet most definitely will. I have always concluded that since angels witness those who take the mark suffering in fire and brimstone, that it was referring to the Lake of Fire.

The words forever or eternal are not part of that verse. I still believe you are damned if you take the mark, but that will give some a little wiggle room if they want to deceive themselves that they will be forgiven.

It’s most definitely something I wouldn’t consider ever doing even if my soul was already damned (I’m not damned but I have definitely hurt Him). God is Just. I believe that’s the main accusation HaSatan is trying to prove. I’m not sure where I get that from or Why I feel compelled to say that. I can’t back it up. It’s just something that’s preprogrammed or imprinted into me. God is Just.
 
I really like what Dannion had to say about the Mark of the Beast. It’s as if it was a dystopian smash-up of 1984 and Logan’s Run. It’s brilliant, except it seems to be missing the persecution/beheading of Christians. We all know who is currently practicing that particular method of death in modern times.

The chip being described seems like something Bill Gates would devise. Elon would fit the bill better, but I believe he is morally more upright and would never resort to such a thing. However, a lack of resources necessary for survival can change almost anyone.

I did a quick read of Revelation yesterday and I realized why some people feel that they won’t be damned to the Lake of Fire if they take the mark.

It doesn’t specifically say that the ones who take the mark will go to Hell. The beast and the false prophet most definitely will. I have always concluded that since angels witness those who take the mark suffering in fire and brimstone, that it was referring to the Lake of Fire.

The words forever or eternal are not part of that verse. I still believe you are damned if you take the mark, but that will give some a little wiggle room if they want to deceive themselves that they will be forgiven.

It’s most definitely something I wouldn’t consider ever doing even if my soul was already damned (I’m not damned but I have definitely hurt Him). God is Just. I believe that’s the main accusation HaSatan is trying to prove. I’m not sure where I get that from or Why I feel compelled to say that. I can’t back it up. It’s just something that’s preprogrammed or imprinted into me. God is Just.

Isn't it interesting though that the brilliant scientist who would develop this technology is from the Middle East?

Because you are absolutely correct it is generally one group of deeply religious people who practice beheading.




“I Was Dead… and I Saw Jesus” | A Shocking Heaven Testimony with Robert Marshall | Part 1​

 
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Isn't it interesting though that the brilliant scientist who would develop this technology is from the Middle East?

Because you are absolutely correct it is generally one group of deeply religious people who practice beheading.




“I Was Dead… and I Saw Jesus” | A Shocking Heaven Testimony with Robert Marshall | Part 1​


When I read your post I noticed that I left out Satan’s accusation. I made it seem as if he was saying God WAS just. Sorry. I believe Satan’s argument is that he has accused God of being UNJUST. I’m sure you were able to read between the lines and could tell my intent. Anyway, that was a rough night for me and I apologize.
 
When I read your post I noticed that I left out Satan’s accusation. I made it seem as if he was saying God WAS just. Sorry. I believe Satan’s argument is that he has accused God of being UNJUST. I’m sure you were able to read between the lines and could tell my intent. Anyway, that was a rough night for me and I apologize.

Yes...... the Robert Marshall NDE addition of information about Satan beginning to fall about seventy million years ago and having fully fallen by sixty five million years ago may have been some of the most informative and interesting information from a near death experience that I have ran into in a long time.

The Book of Job hints that all the angels were in a good attitude at the creation of the earth, [three point six to fourteen billion years ago], but.....
by sixty five million years ago.....
the angels were really really jealous of Adam and Eve.....
because they looked just like the Creator.....

and the angels didn't look exactly like the Creator?!
 
DennisPTate I tried to call Robert today. I was just going to ask him if he would answer a few questions on another day since it’s Passover. Unfortunately his landline # is no longer available and the other #’s are too old. It shows they belong to other people when you click on the links.

Robert Marshall, if you’re reading this, I want to wish you and everyone else well this Passover. I realize some have added an extra month to the Jewish Calendar and won’t be participating until May. I understand. Anyway, feel free to contact me through this message board.

Dennis, I hope your day is going well. Thanks for all your help and optimism.
 
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DennisPTate I tried to call Robert today. I was just going to ask him if he would answer a few questions on another day since it’s Passover. Unfortunately his landline # is no longer available and the other #’s are too old. It shows they belong to other people when you click on the links.

Robert Marshall, if you’re reading this, I want to wish you and everyone else well this Passover. I realize some have added an extra month to the Jewish Calendar and won’t be participating until May. I understand. Anyway, feel free to contact me through this message board.

Dennis, I hope your day is going well. Thanks for all your help and optimism.

I was listening to Robert's second book again and chapters eighteen, nineteen and twenty really hit me. If Tony Robbins had written a book entitled "Awaken the Subatomic Particicle Within" I don't think that it would have been a bestseller?

But those three chapters of Robert's book go into that idea of how minuscule we humans are in comparison to our Creator. Isaiah certainly goes into that topic and so did Rick Joyner but it is not an idea that tends to be very appealing to the typical American or Canadian.


Pastor Rick Joyner had to be shown all the things that he was shown in "The Final Quest" before he was ready to be shown that he was like a tiny quark in comparison to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus. This is in the second book of the trilogy, "The Call."

[Rick Joyner]

“You are small, but you must learn to abide in My presence without looking at yourself You will not be able to hear from Me or speak for Me if you are looking at yourself. You will always be inadequate. You will always be unworthy for what I call you to do, but it will never be your adequacy or worthiness that causes Me to use you. You must not look at your inadequacy, but look to My adequacy. You must stop looking at your own unworthiness and look to My righteousness. When you are used, it is because of who I AM, not who you are.

Slide from Lessons

“You did feel My anger as you began to look at yourself This is the anger I felt toward Moses when he started to complain about how inadequate he was. This only reveals that you are looking to yourself more than to Me, which is the main reason why I am able to use so few of My people for what I desire to do. This false humility is actually a form of the pride that caused the fall of man. Adam and Eve began to feel inadequate and that they needed to be more than I had made them to be. They took it upon themselves to make themselves into who they should be. You can never make yourself into who you should be, but you must trust Me to make you into who you should be.”

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I am truly impressed that Robert Marshall with very little background from church could be shown such really important and deep ideas in those forty four hours.

In chapters nineteen and twenty of Robert's second book, our lives are compared with a thread, [and this idea tends to go against what we are usually taught].

Rick Joyner admits that he could not handle being shown how small he really was in comparison to Jesus in His resurrected body.
 
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I was listening to Robert's second book again and chapters eighteen, nineteen and twenty really hit me. If Tony Robbins had written a book entitled "Awaken the Subatomic Particicle Within" I don't think that it would have been a bestseller?

But those three chapters of Robert's book go into that idea of how minuscule we humans are in comparison to our Creator. Isaiah certainly goes into that topic and so did Rick Joyner but it is not an idea that tends to be very appealing to the typical American or Canadian.


Pastor Rick Joyner had to be shown all the things that he was shown in "The Final Quest" before he was ready to be shown that he was like a tiny quark in comparison to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus. This is in the second book of the trilogy, "The Call."



I am truly impressed that Robert Marshall with very little background from church could be shown such really important and deep ideas in those forty four hours.

In chapters nineteen and twenty of Robert's second book, our lives are compared with a thread, [and this idea tends to go against what we are usually taught].

Rick Joyner admits that he could not handle being shown how small he really was in comparison to Jesus in His resurrected body.
That’s because he wasn’t under the constraints of time as he says. Time doesn’t exist in Heaven according to him.

However, on earth, 7 years of prison time can give someone a lot of time to study the Bible, or create a new con. Plus, having a very religious wife one could consult could make him well learned. Once again, that’s speculation. Still, it is possible. Now someone has AI to assist them as well.

He definitely knows and loves 1 Corinthians 13. He quotes that one all the time. I rarely quote scripture because I’m a ‘gist of things’ kind of person. Anyway, I know it sounds preposterous, but it’s not impossible.
 
That’s because he wasn’t under the constraints of time as he says. Time doesn’t exist in Heaven according to him.

However, on earth, 7 years of prison time can give someone a lot of time to study the Bible, or create a new con. Plus, having a very religious wife one could consult could make him well learned. Once again, that’s speculation. Still, it is possible. Now someone has AI to assist them as well.

He definitely knows and loves 1 Corinthians 13. He quotes that one all the time. I rarely quote scripture because I’m a ‘gist of things’ kind of person. Anyway, I know it sounds preposterous, but it’s not impossible.

I personally have learned to think of my sins of the past as an asset, [once they are covered by the Blood of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus]. It is as if Jesus takes our sins and flaws of the past and prepares us to work with people and encourage other people who have fallen into that same type of problem or character flaw.

I do hear an amazingly high level of guidance by the Holy Spirit in Mr. Robert Marshall's two books as well as in every testimony that he has done with any podcaster, or in any church, so I feel that I need to simply trust the Holy Spirit to lead him to tell his full story when the time comes.

Rabbi Alon Anava had to wait until a certain amount of time had gone by before he could tell us his own full story. I believe that the background to what happened to Rabbi Alon Anava added to the encouragement value of his "testimony." I believe that the same sort of thing will work out with whatever else Robert and his wife Carol Marshall will be led to tell us.

Rabbi Alon Anava's wife has told him that the full circumstances of his near death experience and his becoming an Observant Jew is in some ways has even greater encouragement value than what he was shown during his seven minute near death experience in 2001.


Rabbi Alon Anava is live!​


I believe that all of us can trust that the full story, when Robert is led to tell it all, will have amazing value for the encouragement of all of his listeners.

I do know that he has been led to give the type of correction and warning that I personally needed even after fifty years of being a Christian who was seeking to get closer to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and receive more of the Holy Spirit - Ruach ha Kodesh.

I believe that near death experiencer and former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava is one of the greatest witnesses that has been given to ten million Israelis and all Jews worldwide and I believe that near death experiencer Robert Marshall, and his wife Carol who prayed for her husband with such zeal and deep emotion, are two of the best testimonies for all Christians worldwide.

I believe that we can TRUST the Creator to guide the whole story to come out in perfect timing just as I believe has happened with Rabbi Alon Anava.


www.AlonAnava.com/

About Rabbi Anava​

Alon Anava
Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon Anava beforeAlon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!


My apologies if my expectations are too high...
but I am wondering if Rabbi Alon Anava could be a major fulfillment of Zechariah chapter three? Eventually the full fledged Zechariah chapter three high priest of Judaism will be revealed and at minimum he will be glad that Rabbi Alon Anava prepared Jews to be able to handle his message.


1Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. 2And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”
3Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and was standing before the Angel.
4Then He answered and spoke to those who stood before Him, saying, “Take away the filthy garments from him.” And to him He said, “See, I have removed your iniquity from you, and I will clothe you with rich robes.”
5And I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.”
So they put a clean turban on his head, and they put the clothes on him. And the Angel of the Lord stood by.
The Coming Branch
6Then the Angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, 7“Thus says the Lord of hosts:
‘If you will walk in My ways,
And if you will keep My command,
Then you shall also judge My house,
And likewise have charge of My courts;
I will give you places to walk
Among these who stand here.
8‘Hear, O Joshua, the high priest,
You and your companions who sit before you,
For they are a wondrous sign;
For behold, I am bringing forth My Servant the BRANCH.
9For behold, the stone
That I have laid before Joshua:
Upon the stone are seven eyes.
Behold, I will engrave its inscription,’
Says the Lord of hosts,
‘And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
10In that day,’ says the Lord of hosts,
‘Everyone will invite his neighbor
Under his vine and under his fig tree.’ ”




John chapter six had to happen in the perfect timing. It was similar to the situation with the Judge Gideon who was shown to reduce the size of the army with him down to only three hundred.

60Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”
61When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”



I believe that the Robert Marshall and the Carol Marshall testimony is preparing the modern Revelation chapter three churches so that at least half of them will be awake and will have oil in their lamps and be ready to meet Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as Zechariah 14 finally literally comes to pass.


“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,
‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”: 8“I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
13“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
The Lukewarm Church
14“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 15“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked— 18I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. 21To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
22“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’ ”

 
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That’s because he wasn’t under the constraints of time as he says. Time doesn’t exist in Heaven according to him.

However, on earth, 7 years of prison time can give someone a lot of time to study the Bible, or create a new con. Plus, having a very religious wife one could consult could make him well learned. Once again, that’s speculation. Still, it is possible. Now someone has AI to assist them as well.

He definitely knows and loves 1 Corinthians 13. He quotes that one all the time. I rarely quote scripture because I’m a ‘gist of things’ kind of person. Anyway, I know it sounds preposterous, but it’s not impossible.

Take a look at Chapters 32 and 33 again please?

Are these chapters not amazingly good explanations of false teachers?

I've been either attending or at least researching, one church or even two or three churches in a month since 1972 and I know that I could not write up a diagnosis of false teachers like Robert Marshall does?

To me this tends to verify his claim that he was indeed mentored directly by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus for forty three hours and twenty eight minutes!

Robert Marshall's lack of having gone through "church hopping" since 1984, and yet he writes so accurately and powerfully on this topic is truly impressive to me.

 
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