Zone1 Is the America first agenda real ?

[beagle9]

Are we ignoring the revitalization of the Appalachian region for it's possible rare earth minerals for GEO political reasons, and also because cheap labor abroad is bringing us these materials at such a low price, that to hell with us truly looking within in order to help ourselves and our people within our own nation that is steady boasting about an America 1st agenda ???

The excuse:

Several factors prevent the potential value of rare earth element (REE) deposits in Appalachia from immediately translating into widespread economic prosperity, even during periods of high global demand.

1. Challenges in extraction and processing: While Appalachia holds significant REE deposits, including those in coal and coal wastes, extracting and separating these elements in an economically viable and environmentally sound manner presents considerable technical hurdles.
   • REE deposits often exist in complex mineral forms or at low concentrations, making extraction challenging.
   • Developing efficient and environmentally sound processing technologies is crucial, as traditional methods can be resource-intensive and generate significant waste.
   • While research is ongoing and some pilot facilities are exploring these challenges, scaling these technologies for commercial production takes time and substantial investment.
2. Dominance of existing supply chains: China currently controls a significant portion of the global REE market, from mining to processing and manufacturing, and boasts economies of scale that can make it difficult for new producers to compete on price initially.
3. High capital and operational costs: Establishing new REE mines and processing facilities requires substantial capital investment, and operating costs, particularly in the US, can be higher due to factors like labor costs and stringent environmental regulations.
4. Timeframes for development and market penetration: Opening new mines and developing processing infrastructure can be a lengthy process, often taking years to navigate permitting, construction, and market penetration.
5. Focus on alternative resources and recycling: Current efforts in Appalachia and elsewhere also focus on recovering REEs from unconventional sources like coal ash and acid mine drainage, which can have environmental benefits and contribute to economic development but don't involve the direct mining of new deposits.

In conclusion, while the potential for rare earth materials to revitalize Appalachia is real and attracts investment, the path to realizing this potential involves overcoming significant technical, economic, and geopolitical hurdles that will take time and coordinated efforts from research, industry, and government.

 

[Donald H]

Are we ignoring the revitalization of the Appalachian region for it's possible rare earth minerals for GEO political reasons, and also because cheap labor abroad is bringing us these materials at such a low price, that to hell with us truly looking within in order to help ourselves and our people within our own nation that is steady boasting about an America 1st agenda ???

It's always better to let Americans discover the obvious truth themselves.

You Get It!

 

[task0778]

I'd much rather see America investing in REE extraction and processing than those GD EVs and high-speed trains that will never be economically viable.

 

[BothWings]

Years ago, soon after I moved to P.A., I met an Old Timer who told me about the firt oil ever found in the U.S. in what is now Oil CIty, PA near Franklin. H etold me that eventually the Roosevelt administration avtually paid the owners of the well to keep their oil underground because Roosevelt was about to make a lucrative trade agreement with the Saudis over their oil. So, YES...that kind of shit does happen. All that shipping and switching hands allows them to jack up the prices and launder the fact through thrid party after third party and all the economic parameters the goods are subject to in transit. They started doing that shit after the pnadmic too. Just making up bullshit to explain inflation, and even deliberately creating conditions to help justify it. Oh, did I mention that FDR and Biden were Democrats?

 

[beagle9]

I'd much rather see America investing in REE extraction and processing than those GD EVs and high-speed trains that will never be economically viable.

Does EVs require rare earth materials also ?

 

[Crepitus]

Are we ignoring the revitalization of the Appalachian region for it's possible rare earth minerals for GEO political reasons, and also because cheap labor abroad is bringing us these materials at such a low price, that to hell with us truly looking within in order to help ourselves and our people within our own nation that is steady boasting about an America 1st agenda ???

The excuse:

Several factors prevent the potential value of rare earth element (REE) deposits in Appalachia from immediately translating into widespread economic prosperity, even during periods of high global demand.

1. Challenges in extraction and processing:While Appalachia holds significant REE deposits, including those in coal and coal wastes, extracting and separating these elements in an economically viable and environmentally sound manner presents considerable technical hurdles.
   • REE deposits often exist in complex mineral forms or at low concentrations, making extraction challenging.
   • Developing efficient and environmentally sound processing technologies is crucial, as traditional methods can be resource-intensive and generate significant waste.
   • While research is ongoing and some pilot facilities are exploring these challenges, scaling these technologies for commercial production takes time and substantial investment.
2. Dominance of existing supply chains: China currently controls a significant portion of the global REE market, from mining to processing and manufacturing, and boasts economies of scale that can make it difficult for new producers to compete on price initially.
3. High capital and operational costs: Establishing new REE mines and processing facilities requires substantial capital investment, and operating costs, particularly in the US, can be higher due to factors like labor costs and stringent environmental regulations.
4. Timeframes for development and market penetration: Opening new mines and developing processing infrastructure can be a lengthy process, often taking years to navigate permitting, construction, and market penetration.
5. Focus on alternative resources and recycling: Current efforts in Appalachia and elsewhere also focus on recovering REEs from unconventional sources like coal ash and acid mine drainage, which can have environmental benefits and contribute to economic development but don't involve the direct mining of new deposits.

In conclusion, while the potential for rare earth materials to revitalize Appalachia is real and attracts investment, the path to realizing this potential involves overcoming significant technical, economic, and geopolitical hurdles that will take time and coordinated efforts from research, industry, and government.

Don't overlook the domestic political hurdles.

Most Appalachian counties are solidly republican. If you start to pay them more and better their situations they will flip blue, like other wealthier places.

 

[beagle9]

Years ago, soon after I moved to P.A., I met an Old Timer who told me about the firt oil ever found in the U.S. in what is now Oil CIty, PA near Franklin. H etold me that eventually the Roosevelt administration avtually paid the owners of the well to keep their oil underground because Roosevelt was about to make a lucrative trade agreement with the Saudis over their oil. So, YES...that kind of shit does happen. All that shipping and switching hands allows them to jack up the prices and launder the fact through thrid party after third party and all the economic parameters the goods are subject to in transit. They started doing that shit after the pnadmic too. Just making up bullshit to explain inflation, and even deliberately creating conditions to help justify it. Oh, did I mention that FDR and Biden were Democrats?

Yes, there could be a pattern attributed too Democrats and their anti-American activities in which place personally gained wealth over the security and prosperity of this nation. A study and extensive audit and investigation should begin now on identifying character and attributes of the mindsets that constantly operate in a greed driven anti-American way within our government and corporate elite in this country.

If the American first agenda is going to be real, then let's start showing it instead of sticking with the government dependency and control to the detriment of society.

 

[beagle9]

Don't overlook the domestic political hurdles.

Most Appalachian counties are solidly republican. If you start to pay them more and better their situations they will flip blue, like other wealthier places.

That is hilarious.. Thanks for the laugh... Rotflmbo

 

[Crepitus]

That is hilarious.. Thanks for the laugh... Rotflmbo

Which part of tht do you find amusing?

 

[JGalt]

Are we ignoring the revitalization of the Appalachian region for it's possible rare earth minerals for GEO political reasons, and also because cheap labor abroad is bringing us these materials at such a low price, that to hell with us truly looking within in order to help ourselves and our people within our own nation that is steady boasting about an America 1st agenda ???

The excuse:

Several factors prevent the potential value of rare earth element (REE) deposits in Appalachia from immediately translating into widespread economic prosperity, even during periods of high global demand.

1. Challenges in extraction and processing:While Appalachia holds significant REE deposits, including those in coal and coal wastes, extracting and separating these elements in an economically viable and environmentally sound manner presents considerable technical hurdles.
   • REE deposits often exist in complex mineral forms or at low concentrations, making extraction challenging.
   • Developing efficient and environmentally sound processing technologies is crucial, as traditional methods can be resource-intensive and generate significant waste.
   • While research is ongoing and some pilot facilities are exploring these challenges, scaling these technologies for commercial production takes time and substantial investment.
2. Dominance of existing supply chains: China currently controls a significant portion of the global REE market, from mining to processing and manufacturing, and boasts economies of scale that can make it difficult for new producers to compete on price initially.
3. High capital and operational costs: Establishing new REE mines and processing facilities requires substantial capital investment, and operating costs, particularly in the US, can be higher due to factors like labor costs and stringent environmental regulations.
4. Timeframes for development and market penetration: Opening new mines and developing processing infrastructure can be a lengthy process, often taking years to navigate permitting, construction, and market penetration.
5. Focus on alternative resources and recycling: Current efforts in Appalachia and elsewhere also focus on recovering REEs from unconventional sources like coal ash and acid mine drainage, which can have environmental benefits and contribute to economic development but don't involve the direct mining of new deposits.

In conclusion, while the potential for rare earth materials to revitalize Appalachia is real and attracts investment, the path to realizing this potential involves overcoming significant technical, economic, and geopolitical hurdles that will take time and coordinated efforts from research, industry, and government.

The Trump administration has already been on it, so yes, the America First agenda is real.

Virginia Tech to lead $10 million critical mineral research coalition in Appalachia

 

[Donald H]

Don't overlook the domestic political hurdles.

Most Appalachian counties are solidly republican. If you start to pay them more and better their situations they will flip blue, like other wealthier places.

Well you at least nailed it on the most desirable places to live.

B.C. has nearly always been leftist too.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'd much rather see America investing in REE extraction and processing than those GD EVs and high-speed trains that will never be economically viable.

True. We need to slow down, not go faster.

 

[beagle9]

Which part of tht do you find amusing?

The part where you said if you begin to pay them more they'll flip blue...

Depends on whose paying them, and it's doubtful that the Democrats would pay them for their work on extracting the rare earths, but rather the Democrats would claim that a rare hooping crane swallow bird has several nest at the entrance of the mind's and therefore the minds can't be mined for the 8 month period of the birds rarely seen hatching cycle.

Then the Democrats would steal from the nation's highway and social security fund's in order to create barely above the poverty mark dependency on food stamps and welfare for the suffering region's in which yes you might be right it could flip the state's blue through the free this and free that economy created by the Democrats for the region.

What a damned shame it all is.

 

[Failzero]

Social issues matter to the America First Agenda

 

[beagle9]

Social issues matter to the America First Agenda

Yes, but can we get our government to truly believe in the nations people again or was it all just window dressing until power was given, and then it ignores the true idea behind "making America great again" ?

 

[Failzero]

Yes, but can we get our government to truly believe in the nations people again or was it all just window dressing until power was given, and then it ignores the true idea behind "making America great again" ?

Can we get a real end to 3rd Trimester Abortion , all States adopting Conceal Carry Permit Reciprocity , An end to Sanctuary Cities , No gender change surgeries for anyone under 18 …

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Are we ignoring the revitalization of the Appalachian region for it's possible rare earth minerals for GEO political reasons, and also because cheap labor abroad is bringing us these materials at such a low price, that to hell with us truly looking within in order to help ourselves and our people within our own nation that is steady boasting about an America 1st agenda ???

The excuse:

Several factors prevent the potential value of rare earth element (REE) deposits in Appalachia from immediately translating into widespread economic prosperity, even during periods of high global demand.

1. Challenges in extraction and processing:While Appalachia holds significant REE deposits, including those in coal and coal wastes, extracting and separating these elements in an economically viable and environmentally sound manner presents considerable technical hurdles.
   • REE deposits often exist in complex mineral forms or at low concentrations, making extraction challenging.
   • Developing efficient and environmentally sound processing technologies is crucial, as traditional methods can be resource-intensive and generate significant waste.
   • While research is ongoing and some pilot facilities are exploring these challenges, scaling these technologies for commercial production takes time and substantial investment.
2. Dominance of existing supply chains: China currently controls a significant portion of the global REE market, from mining to processing and manufacturing, and boasts economies of scale that can make it difficult for new producers to compete on price initially.
3. High capital and operational costs: Establishing new REE mines and processing facilities requires substantial capital investment, and operating costs, particularly in the US, can be higher due to factors like labor costs and stringent environmental regulations.
4. Timeframes for development and market penetration: Opening new mines and developing processing infrastructure can be a lengthy process, often taking years to navigate permitting, construction, and market penetration.
5. Focus on alternative resources and recycling: Current efforts in Appalachia and elsewhere also focus on recovering REEs from unconventional sources like coal ash and acid mine drainage, which can have environmental benefits and contribute to economic development but don't involve the direct mining of new deposits.

In conclusion, while the potential for rare earth materials to revitalize Appalachia is real and attracts investment, the path to realizing this potential involves overcoming significant technical, economic, and geopolitical hurdles that will take time and coordinated efforts from research, industry, and government.

Nature Is a Crime Against Humanity

The natural environment is hostile to the human race. Pretending that it is the best for us is mindless, superstitious, and primitive. I can't believe the other problems about development of "rare" earth minerals if you think we ought to protect the way things are environmentally.

 

[beagle9]

Nature Is a Crime Against Humanity

The natural environment is hostile to the human race. Pretending that it is the best for us is mindless, superstitious, and primitive. I can't believe the other problems about development of "rare" earth minerals if you think we ought to protect the way things are environmentally.

Your post made no sense in regard to my opinions here. WTH ? If I think what ? I'm not a liberal leftist extreme radical environmentalist..

 

[Woodznutz]

Nature Is a Crime Against Humanity

The natural environment is hostile to the human race.

That's why God instructs us to subdue it.

 

[beagle9]

That's why God instructs us to subdue it.

Or to utilize and work with it wisely.