Zone1 Is Satan acting like Stanley Milgram Ph. D?

[DennisPTate]

In the Book of Job we will find some statements that could remind us of the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. research that was conducted around the time of the Nuremburg War Crimes trials?

After his rebellion against his Creator, Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan felt guilt, shame, insecurity and feelings of inferiority at a level that you and I cannot comprehend, for his rebellion but in his defence there is evidence that Satan began to fall about seventy million years ago and had not fully fallen until about sixty five million years ago. We humans can get into a lot of trouble in one day, imagine how messed up we could become over five million years of "falling?"

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil?”

9 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not Thou made a hedge about him and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? Thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance hath increased in the land.

11 But put forth Thine hand now and touch all that he hath, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand.” So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
[Job 1]

and Job 2:

[Job 2]

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, “From whence comest thou?” And Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down upon it.”

3 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil? And still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst Me against him to destroy him without cause.”

And Satan answered the Lord and said, “Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.

5; But put forth Thine hand now and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

6 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, he is in thine hand; only spare his life.”

7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
[Job 2]

Satan's tendency to question his own motives and attempt to understand how he himself fell so far, so fast, has resulted in his having a terribly negative and pessimistic view of us humans.

In a way the dilemma faced by Satan could remind us of the Disney story "Pinnochio" because Satan felt that he was merely like a robot in comparison to the plans of YHWh for Adam and Eve and their children and grandchildren.

Do you think that Satan may be involved in "Psychological Research" that needs to be approved by God, or he cannot do that research?

I believe that this idea is important because the eight thousand five hundred wealthiest of the wealthy and their ten million or so most highly rewarded Managers / Task Masters, may be in the position of the "Teacher Subject" of the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. "Milgram Experiment?"

The Milgram Experiment, conducted by Stanley Milgram at Yale in 1961-62, tested how far ordinary people would go in obeying an authority figure, even if it meant harming someone else, revealing a shocking tendency for obedience, with 65% of participants administering what they believed were lethal shocks. Participants (teachers) would shock a "learner" (an actor) for wrong answers, increasing voltage with each error, and despite the learner's pleas and distress, most continued when prompted by the experimenter in a lab coat, demonstrating that situational power dynamics can override personal conscience.


How the Experiment Worked

• Setup: Participants were told it was a study on memory and learning at Yale University.
• Roles:
  One participant was the "teacher," another (an actor) was the "learner," and a third was the "experimenter" (authority figure)
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• • The Task: The teacher would administer electric shocks (fake, but seemingly real) to the learner for incorrect answers, with shock levels increasing from 15 to 450 volts.
  • The Dilemma: As voltage rose, the actor would protest, scream, and eventually fall silent, while the experimenter urged the teacher to continue ("Please continue," "You have no other choice").

Key Findings

• High Obedience: 65% of participants administered the maximum 450-volt shock, far more than experts predicted.
• Power of Authority: The study highlighted how easily behavior is controlled by situational demands and authority figures, even when it conflicts with personal morality.
• Visible Distress: Participants showed significant signs of stress (sweating, trembling) but often continued.

Significance

• Context: Conducted during the Adolf Eichmann trial, it sought to understand how ordinary Germans could participate in atrocities during the Holocaust.
• Ethical Concerns: The deception and stress placed on participants led to significant ethical debate, though variations confirmed the core findings across different groups.

Zone1 Thread 'Does Satan work for Jesus?'

Dec 7, 2025

I admit that this question is going to be rather controversial but a pretty powerful case can be presented from The Book of Job as well as from the Christian scriptures that perhaps, Satan is obeying every command that he receives from Jesus, [who apparently has the authority to send people like near death experiencer Robert Marshall back to this earth with a mission that is relevant for all doctors and all nurses and all medical personnel in the USA and Canada and all the world]!

So if Satan is working for Jesus what is his job perhaps rather like?

Well, on one level I believe that...

• DennisPTate
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[knuckles]

Yo Dennis did you know that according to Carl Gustaf Jung, the actions of God with respect to Satan toward Job as depicted in the Book of Job precipitated the need for God to come to earth as Jesus and experience pain as a human and die on the cross?

 

[DennisPTate]

Yo Dennis did you know that according to Carl Gustaf Jung, the actions of God with respect to Satan toward Job as depicted in the Book of Job precipitated the need for God to come to earth as Jesus and experience pain as a human and die on the cross?

Wow!

I had read some about Carl Gustaf Jung in the past but I had not ran into that idea.

I am really glad that he stuck up for a belief in reincarnation.

Carl Jung and Reincarnation​

Jung did not treat reincarnation as a belief you must accept or reject. He saw it as a question of the inner mind. For him, it was about symbols, experience, and what people sense deep inside themselves. Unlike religions that describe reincarnation as a fixed system, Jung looked at it as something that comes from shared human patterns, symbols, and inner experience.

Jung was careful not to make firm claims about what is literally true. He did not say reincarnation was a proven fact. But he also did not brush it off as pure imagination. Instead, he said it was a meaningful idea that shows up again and again in human thought, across many cultures and time periods.

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Jung’s idea of individuation is about becoming whole over a lifetime. This naturally raises the question of whether one lifetime is enough. Jung never said that individuation clearly continues across many lives. But he wondered if consciousness might keep developing in future lives. This question mattered to him because full individuation is so rare. He suggested that the Self, the symbol of wholeness, may not be limited to one moment in time. Still, Jung did not claim reincarnation was definitely real or false. He stayed open and respectful of the mystery. He valued experience more than belief. As he said, “I have no proof whatever of the immortality of the soul – but I have experiences.” For Jung, reincarnation remained an open question. It invites the mind to reflect on its own deep and mysterious sense of continuity.

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