Is Putin Interested In Peace?

[MarcATL]

If not, what's his end-goal?

If he is, what makes you think that he is?

Russia 'will never agree' to European peacekeepers in Ukraine, Lukashenko says

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko -- a close ally of President Vladimir Putin -- warned that the Kremlin "will never" accept a European deployment to Ukraine.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Lesh]

He’s interested in peace. As long as he gets what he wants

 

[MisterBeale]

What makes me think he wants this war to end?

He said so.

Putin: Zelensky is "Toxic"; Trump is "Rational"; Europe is "Shackled" - Interview February 2025​

Feb 25, 2025

 

[MarcATL]

He’s interested in peace. As long as he gets what he wants

What's his end-goal?

 

[MarcATL]

What makes me think he wants this war to end?

He said so.

Putin: Zelensky is "Toxic"; Trump is "Rational"; Europe is "Shackled" - Interview February 2025​

Feb 25, 2025

So did Zelensky...

 

[MisterBeale]

What's his end-goal?

For those who actually listen to what he says, he wants a rules based international order, where the rules are applied to every sovereign nation equally.


. . . but if you listen to the silly war propaganda he has always, and will always have the same agenda.

(Which if you know the actual strength of the Russian economy and military, is a farce on its face.)

 

[Meister]

I believe Putin wants peace. He probably thought the war would be a quick
conflict, not a 3+ year quagmire. He has lost a generation of men.

 

[Lesh]

What's his end-goal?

Reconstituting the Russian Empire of course

 

[Meister]

Reconstituting the Russian Empire of course

That ship has already sailed.

 

[MarcATL]

Reconstituting the Russian Empire of course

And what part does peace have to do w/that goal?

 

[Lesh]

And what part does peace have to do w/that goal?

In reality … none.

I’m sure he would like to just demand control of those countries and have them “peacefully” surrender their sovereignty but…

 

[MarcATL]

I believe Putin wants peace. He probably thought the war would be a quick
conflict, not a 3+ year quagmire. He has lost a generation of men.

You think Putin's a competent general?

 

[MarcATL]

I believe Putin wants peace. He probably thought the war would be a quick
conflict, not a 3+ year quagmire. He has lost a generation of men.

So he invades another sovereign country unprovoked, and your brain tells you that he wants peace?

 

[Meister]

You think Putin's a competent general?

Obviously not. And, I doubt you think so also.

 

[IM2]

For those who actually listen to what he says, he wants a rules based international order, where the rules are applied to every sovereign nation equally.


. . . but if you listen to the silly war propaganda he has always, and will always have the same agenda.

(Which if you know the actual strength of the Russian economy and military, is a farce on its face.)

Putin is the master liar. He is getting old and wants to cement his legacy as a great Russian leader. He has stated from his first day that his goal was to reconstitute the old Soviet Union. He does not want peace.

 

[Meister]

So he invades another sovereign country unprovoked, and your brain tells you that he wants peace?

Well, Marc, if you just ignore my reasoning, you might have come to that conclusion.
But, I had reasoning behind what I posted, and you ignored.

 

[IM2]

If not, what's his end-goal?

If he is, what makes you think that he is?

Russia 'will never agree' to European peacekeepers in Ukraine, Lukashenko says

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko -- a close ally of President Vladimir Putin -- warned that the Kremlin "will never" accept a European deployment to Ukraine.

abcnews.go.com

Putin doesn't want peace until he can reconstitute the old Soviet Union. He wants to go down in Russian history as a great Russian leader.

 

[MisterBeale]

Putin is the master liar.

This might indeed be true.

Please post a link to a Putin speech that directly contradicts his actions.

 

[MarcATL]

Well, Marc, if you just ignore my reasoning, you might have come to that conclusion.
But, I had reasoning behind what I posted, and you ignored.

Let's dig in some more then, what reasoning is that?

 

[MarcATL]

Putin doesn't want peace until he can reconstitute the old Soviet Union. He wants to go down in Russian history as a great Russian leader.

Let's say he somehow accomplishes that goal, does Russia have a history of being peaceable?