Is Kim Davis wrong? Or is the Supreme Ct wrong about requiring acceptance of same-sex "marriage"?

[Billy_Kinetta]

Is Kim Davis wrong? Or is the Supreme Ct wrong about requiring acceptance of same-sex "marriage"?

Both are wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Yes, they decided that portion based on their Constitutional mandate...

... where they went wrong was to expand that to gay marriages...

... which is extra-judicial and falls outside the parameters of their jurisdiction.

Had they kicked it back to Congress to give Congress a legislative reason for doing what they did, then the Supreme Court would have performed their Constitutionall given function...

... but instead, they went beyond their boundary and imposed their will...

... rather than the will of Congress.

The protected status of gender vs. sexual orientation may be splitting hairs...

... but that is Congress's function to do the haircut - not the Supreme Court.

Wrong.

The issue had nothing to do with Congress.

The issue concerned state laws seeking to deny gay residents of the states from accessing state marriage law in violation of the 14th Amendment.

 

[Geaux4it]

Davis is wrong:

“The interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment enunciated by this Court in the Brown case is the supreme law of the land, and Art. VI of the Constitution makes it of binding effect on the States "any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." P.358 U. S. 18.

No state legislator or executive or judicial officer can war against the Constitution without violating his solemn oath to support it. P. 358 U. S. 18.”

Cooper v. Aaron (1958)

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Article VI, US Constitution

And the Supreme Court is correct:

“The right to marry is a fundamental right inherent in the liberty of the person, and under the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment couples of the same-sex may not be deprived of that right and that liberty. Same-sex couples may exercise the fundamental right to marry.”

Obergefell v. Hodges (2015)

SCOTUS is wrong. Their decisions will foever alter America. And not for the good

-Geaux

 

[frigidweirdo]

The Supreme Court is wrong...

... the Constitution says nothing about the status of marriage...

... therefore they have nothing within their jurisdiction to base their decision on...

... until legislation is passed - then and only then can they rule on the Constitutionality of the legislation one way or the other...

... it is not in their purview to legislate laws...

... especially since, at present, sexual orientation is not a protected class.

Utter rubbish. There doesn't need to be anything about marriage in the constitution. There's something about equality of the laws, and the Supreme Court has said this happens to refer to marriage, so it does.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Constitution (Amendment 1) says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."

And the 14th amendment said that what applied to the Fed govt, now applies to state and local govts too. Meaning, no govt can make a law as described by the 1st amendment.

A basic tenet of many religions in this country is that homosexuality is a sin, and is forbidden. That was true in George Washington's time, and is just as true now.

If Congress makes a law saying that people (such as county clerks) must accept a homosexual same-sex "marriage", hasn't Congress (and/or the county govt of Rowan County, Kentucky) violated the 1st amendment?

Why did they jail Kim Davis? Sounds like they should have jailed the Congressmen (or county govt officials) who voted for the law instead, and possibly the affirming justices of the Supreme Court too.

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

This is as ignorant as it is ridiculous and wrong.

 

[David_42]

The resident Christian fear mongering homophobes don't hold back.. Idiots.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Davis is wrong:

“The interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment enunciated by this Court in the Brown case is the supreme law of the land, and Art. VI of the Constitution makes it of binding effect on the States "any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." P.358 U. S. 18.

No state legislator or executive or judicial officer can war against the Constitution without violating his solemn oath to support it. P. 358 U. S. 18.”

Cooper v. Aaron (1958)

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Article VI, US Constitution

And the Supreme Court is correct:

“The right to marry is a fundamental right inherent in the liberty of the person, and under the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment couples of the same-sex may not be deprived of that right and that liberty. Same-sex couples may exercise the fundamental right to marry.”

Obergefell v. Hodges (2015)

SCOTUS is wrong. Their decisions will foever alter America. And not for the good

-Geaux

So because you don't like a decision, they're wrong?

So if I don't like guns the the Supreme Court when it makes a decision in favor of guns?

 

[midcan5]

Davis is wrong. The link covers the reason why.

Beliefs cannot trump rights

 

[JoeB131]

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

Hey, guy, maybe some of us don't believe in your God and don't want to live in a theocracy.

Has that ever occurred to you?

Here's an idea. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one!

 

[Geaux4it]

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

Hey, guy, maybe some of us don't believe in your God and don't want to live in a theocracy.

Has that ever occurred to you?

Here's an idea. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one!

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

 

[sealybobo]

Christian Taliban

Christians who defend this woman don't realize how unholy their religion is. I can't stand that born again being cheered on by a crowd of nuts.

This is why I hate religion. It's evil bad and wrong.

 

[sealybobo]

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

Hey, guy, maybe some of us don't believe in your God and don't want to live in a theocracy.

Has that ever occurred to you?

Here's an idea. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one!

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

And if you don't like gays don't suck a dick.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"Your rights end where mine begin."

 

[Geaux4it]

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

Hey, guy, maybe some of us don't believe in your God and don't want to live in a theocracy.

Has that ever occurred to you?

Here's an idea. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one!

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

And if you don't like gays don't suck a dick.

Do I still have the liberty to eat *****?

Me likes that

-Geaux

 

[MisterBeale]

The Constitution (Amendment 1) says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."

And the 14th amendment said that what applied to the Fed govt, now applies to state and local govts too. Meaning, no govt can make a law as described by the 1st amendment.

A basic tenet of many religions in this country is that homosexuality is a sin, and is forbidden. That was true in George Washington's time, and is just as true now.

If Congress makes a law saying that people (such as county clerks) must accept a homosexual same-sex "marriage", hasn't Congress (and/or the county govt of Rowan County, Kentucky) violated the 1st amendment?

Why did they jail Kim Davis? Sounds like they should have jailed the Congressmen (or county govt officials) who voted for the law instead, and possibly the affirming justices of the Supreme Court too.

Excellent post. I agree. Yes, they should be jailed and the justices of the Supreme Court should be in jail too. It is a wicked bunch and I am believing God for His judgment to fall on them and everyone else who was behind it. I pray God's judgment is swift and powerful and that all those who witness it depart from evil and begin to fear the LORD.

lol. Yikes. Pretty harsh there.

 

[JoeB131]

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

Not quite the same thing.

Your neighbors gay marriage can have ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON YOUR LIFE. Therefore it's none of your ******* business.

Given how you racist gun nuts masturbate over all the people you can't wait to ******* shoot, I have a real concern about some of you having guns.

 

[Geaux4it]

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

Not quite the same thing.

Your neighbors gay marriage can have ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON YOUR LIFE. Therefore it's none of your ******* business.

Given how you racist gun nuts masturbate over all the people you can't wait to ******* shoot, I have a real concern about some of you having guns.

Again Joe.....

Your concerns= tree falling in the forest

-Geaux

 

[JoeB131]

Again Joe.....

Your concerns= tree falling in the forest

Why do you guys shit yourselves every time there's a mass shooting, then?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Again Joe.....

Your concerns= tree falling in the forest

Why do you guys shit yourselves every time there's a mass shooting, then?

That makes no sense.

 

[Geaux4it]

If you don't like guns Joe, don't buy one.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

-Geaux

Not quite the same thing.

Your neighbors gay marriage can have ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON YOUR LIFE. Therefore it's none of your ******* business.

Given how you racist gun nuts masturbate over all the people you can't wait to ******* shoot, I have a real concern about some of you having guns.

If I still had kids at home, I would protect my children form vulgar displays of evil

Parents don't let their kids watch pornography. Having it right next door requires parenting as well

-Geaux