Is it time to take from the rich to give to the poor?

[leftwinger]

Capitalist economists are hilarious. The USA needs so badly to take from the rich and give to the poor. We need more socialism so badly in the USA. We are one of the richest countries, yet we have so many homeless people. So many poor people. So many people without any healthcare insurance. I have talked to many homeless people and it is very obvious that many are mentally retarded are suffering from some serious disability. No employer would hire them. They don't have the intelligence or ability to apply for government assistance and they don't have any family or friends to help them apply. It sickens me that we can have people living in 90 Million dollar homes who take trips to Hawaiii every year that don't give a rats ass about all the people starving to death on the streets who are eating out of garbage cans. I know one homeless man in my area who froze to death in the winter, I drove by the frozen body on the highway this January. This is the capitalist America that is so great.

if you succeed it would never be enough. The non-working least-productive poor class breed 10 kids to get a bigger GOVT check. Successful working people cannot.

there is not enough wealth in 1% to make a dent. GDP and the markets would collapse also. If not Obiden (yr 12) would have done something about it. DC Political hacks are mostly billionaire class from corruption. Think they will share?

 

[sealybobo]

Sure, it's mighty easy for you because all you've done is toss logic aside. You're so stuck in partisan politics you can't see the forest for the trees.

I on the other hand have based my point on principle without concern of politics. For me it makes no sense that the tax code treats things differently if somebody inherits a $100,000 IRA as opposed to $100,000 in stock.

Or how a rich person gets to pay 6% tax on his income because it's from investments while we pay 30%. Stuff like that?

 

[leftwinger]

Not on you and me. Only on rich people and corporations. But stop calling it "jacking up" when it's rolling back the tax cuts they should have never got in the first place.

OR, they should have been temporary like Trump made yours. Did you know next year you won't be getting Trump's tax breaks but rich people and corporations will continue to get them? You stupid fucker.

you’re always mostly lost in your DEM brainwashing. The corporate from 28% to 21% took off the stalled job market + GDP. GOVT Tax Revenue increased. Talk to the Congress D about the personal income top rate down 2% or so.

 

[sealybobo]

if you succeed it would never be enough. The non-working least-productive poor class breed 10 kids to get a bigger GOVT check. Successful working people cannot.

there is not enough wealth in 1% to make a dent. GDP and the markets would collapse also. If not Obiden (yr 12) would have done something about it. DC Political hacks are mostly billionaire class from corruption. Think they will share?

What are the annual wages of top earners?

Bracket	Average annual wges
Top 0.1%	$3,212,486
Top 1%	$823,763
Top 5%	$342,987
Top 10%	$173,176

 

[sealybobo]

you’re always mostly lost in your DEM brainwashing. The corporate from 28% to 21% took off the stalled job market + GDP. GOVT Tax Revenue increased. Talk to the Congress D about the personal income top rate down 2% or so.

But the rich fought back, and won big-time in 1980 when Reagan, until then the fringe "Voodoo economics" candidate who was heading into the election trailing far behind Jimmy Carter, was swept into the White House on a wave of public concern of the Iranians taking US hostages. Reagan promptly cut income taxes on the very rich from 70% down to 27%. Corporate tax rates were also cut so severely that they went from representing over 33% of total federal tax receipts in 1951 to less than 9% in 1983

 

[leftwinger]

But the rich fought back, and won big-time in 1980 when Reagan, until then the fringe "Voodoo economics" candidate who was heading into the election trailing far behind Jimmy Carter, was swept into the White House on a wave of public concern of the Iranians taking US hostages. Reagan promptly cut income taxes on the very rich from 70% down to 27%. Corporate tax rates were also cut so severely that they went from representing over 33% of total federal tax receipts in 1951 to less than 9% in 1983

more brainwashing. You’re pathetically buried in racial madcows hairy butt. No matter where the top rate is (it was once 90%) GOVT has never been able to sustain more than 20%*GDP in Tax revenue. So it doesn’t work. The GDP drops, the rich move money?, stop working? No one opens business? I don’t know why. Obiden 1 or 2 did not do as you ask. Ask yourself WHY.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not on you and me. Only on rich people and corporations. But stop calling it "jacking up" when it's rolling back the tax cuts they should have never got in the first place.

OR, they should have been temporary like Trump made yours. Did you know next year you won't be getting Trump's tax breaks but rich people and corporations will continue to get them? You stupid fucker.

Biden hasn't made the middle-class tax cuts permanent?
Why do the dems hate the middle class?

 

[the other mike]

I remember Clinton let us liberals down 3 or 4 times. NAFTA, the 96 comm act and I forget the other times but he was known as a master triangulator. He gave republicans things they wanted and in return he got stuff he wanted.

Was welfare reform one of the other things? In hindsight, that one doesn’t bother me so much. Anyways, even trump admitted clintron was great

True liberals are virtually non-existent and irrelevant now, unless I missed something.

 

[the other mike]

What are the annual wages of top earners?

Bracket	Average annual wges
Top 0.1%	$3,212,486
Top 1%	$823,763
Top 5%	$342,987
Top 10%	$173,176

You're talking pennies .....the $20 trillion wealth shift is long gone.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Or how a rich person gets to pay 6% tax on his income because it's from investments while we pay 30%. Stuff like that?

No rich person pays 6% on investments. Liar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But the rich fought back, and won big-time in 1980 when Reagan, until then the fringe "Voodoo economics" candidate who was heading into the election trailing far behind Jimmy Carter, was swept into the White House on a wave of public concern of the Iranians taking US hostages. Reagan promptly cut income taxes on the very rich from 70% down to 27%. Corporate tax rates were also cut so severely that they went from representing over 33% of total federal tax receipts in 1951 to less than 9% in 1983

swept into the White House on a wave of public concern of the Iranians taking US hostages.

Carter was a weak ass bitch.

Reagan promptly cut income taxes on the very rich from 70% down to 27%.

Liar.

Corporate tax rates were also cut so severely that they went from representing over 33% of total federal tax receipts in 1951 to less than 9% in 1983

That's awful!
What was the percentage in 1980, under Carter?

 

[Richard-H]

The rich are just smarter about money than most. Getting rich in America is easy once you understand that you can't have your cake (money) and eat (spend) it too. It's one or the other, not both. You can spend all of your money and make someone else rich (been there, done that), or you can keep it and make yourself rich (done that too).

Edit. Not rich but pretty well off.

Knowing the difference between an appreciable and a non-appreciable asset is important also.

 

[sealybobo]

more brainwashing. You’re pathetically buried in racial madcows hairy butt. No matter where the top rate is (it was once 90%) GOVT has never been able to sustain more than 20%*GDP in Tax revenue. So it doesn’t work. The GDP drops, the rich move money?, stop working? No one opens business? I don’t know why. Obiden 1 or 2 did not do as you ask. Ask yourself WHY.

Oh and I'd break up Amazon. Monopolies killing the mom and pops. Or pass legislation they have to cut the fees they charge manufaturers in half.

 

[BluesLegend]

Not on you and me. Only on rich people and corporations.

First off that's a bit fat LIE! Even IF that were true do you dumb assess think the 'rich' just have to sit there and take it up the ass? No, they pass their costs on to the poor and working class you blithering idiots. God you people need to stop voting or operating a motor vehicle.

 

[sealybobo]

First off that's a bit fat LIE! Even IF that were true do you dumb assess think the 'rich' just have to sit there and take it up the ass? No, they pass their costs on to the poor and working class you blithering idiots. God you people need to stop voting or operating a motor vehicle.

Stop worrying about them passing on the costs when we take back what they've stolen you sheep.

Or are you one of them benefiting from the con? What do you do for a living? Or are you retired on a pension?

 

[BluesLegend]

Stop worrying about them passing on the costs when we take back what they've stolen you sheep.

Or are you one of them benefiting from the con? What do you do for a living? Or are you retired on a pension?

LMAO what was stolen? Here comes the Dem's twisted logic for taking other people's money the thieving deadbeat sponges.

 

[sealybobo]

LMAO what was stolen? Here comes the Dem's twisted logic for taking other people's money the thieving deadbeat sponges.

Oh I'm sorry it was all legal. ALEC bribes, I mean lobbies the politicians to pass favorable legislation. You are correct it's all legal. Every last loophole. Sorry. My bad. You're right.

 

[BluesLegend]

Oh I'm sorry it was all legal. ALEC bribes, I mean lobbies the politicians to pass favorable legislation. You are correct it's all legal. Every last loophole. Sorry. My bad. You're right.

Still waiting, stolen got it, what was stolen? Now run away and don't annoy me with pathetic Dem talking points again.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

How does that explain millions of students with a $Trillion of student debt?

Tuition Means Bribing the Referees

The only reason they had to pay was to give an overwhelming psychological advantage to the pushy brats who had their Daddies pay their tuition.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The point of Provebs 13:22 is that the wealth of sinners is to be taken, and NOT given to one's descendants.
Show me anyone who is wealthy now who does not make it by sinning?
Charging interest on loans is actually a sin.
Controlling commodities is a sin.

HeirDads Are Just As UnAmerican

You miss the point. Even someone who made his wealth honestly has no right to set his son up ahead of the more talented.

Athletes gain their positions honestly. How does that give them the right to pass them on to their sons? That would destroy pro sports, just like hereditary power has destroyed all civilizations.