Is it time for Israel to re-take Gaza?

[Coyote]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Because the problem was not created in isolation or by Israel alone, all the players should be involved. Especially when the MidEast is so fragmented and volatile. Gaza Is desperate and it’s people feel hopeless. That makes it easy for extremist elements to make inroads among its people. If you want to prevent that, you need the committed support of all the people who had a hand in creating the problem.

 

[Sixties Fan]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Because the problem was not created in isolation or by Israel alone, all the players should be involved. Especially when the MidEast is so fragmented and volatile. Gaza Is desperate and it’s people feel hopeless. That makes it easy for extremist elements to make inroads among its people. If you want to prevent that, you need the committed support of all the people who had a hand in creating the problem.

Were all players involved in the Peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan?

How did the treaties come about?

Mainly, from the need to stop attacking Israel or the countries would collapse. They did not get the funding that Gaza and the PA do.

The extremists are running Gaza and the PA.

The extremist are creating the conditions for the people to be desperate and feel that they have to protest, riot and attack Israel.

Here is the testimony of someone who lives in Gaza. Here is why they riot:

Palestinian caught at Gaza fence says Hamas plans riots so ‘people won’t revolt’

 

[Coyote]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Because the problem was not created in isolation or by Israel alone, all the players should be involved. Especially when the MidEast is so fragmented and volatile. Gaza Is desperate and it’s people feel hopeless. That makes it easy for extremist elements to make inroads among its people. If you want to prevent that, you need the committed support of all the people who had a hand in creating the problem.

Were all players involved in the Peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan?

How did the treaties come about?

Mainly, from the need to stop attacking Israel or the countries would collapse. They did not get the funding that Gaza and the PA do.

The extremists are running Gaza and the PA.

The extremist are creating the conditions for the people to be desperate and feel that they have to protest, riot and attack Israel.

Here is the testimony of someone who lives in Gaza. Here is why they riot:

Palestinian caught at Gaza fence says Hamas plans riots so ‘people won’t revolt’

I am not thinking about peace treaties but about the means to make Gaza sustainable.

 

[Sixties Fan]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Because the problem was not created in isolation or by Israel alone, all the players should be involved. Especially when the MidEast is so fragmented and volatile. Gaza Is desperate and it’s people feel hopeless. That makes it easy for extremist elements to make inroads among its people. If you want to prevent that, you need the committed support of all the people who had a hand in creating the problem.

Were all players involved in the Peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan?

How did the treaties come about?

Mainly, from the need to stop attacking Israel or the countries would collapse. They did not get the funding that Gaza and the PA do.

The extremists are running Gaza and the PA.

The extremist are creating the conditions for the people to be desperate and feel that they have to protest, riot and attack Israel.

Here is the testimony of someone who lives in Gaza. Here is why they riot:

Palestinian caught at Gaza fence says Hamas plans riots so ‘people won’t revolt’

I am not thinking about peace treaties but about the means to make Gaza sustainable.

And one does not depend on the other, how so?

 

[theliq]

They suck at if if they are trying to destroy the palestinians in Gaza, as obesity and population growth is soring. Didn't realise the jews were so bad at what they did.

That's why a UN report says Gaza will not be able to sustain life by 2020?

That's good news for Hamas.

Hamas second-richest terror group in world, Forbes says

Who cashed them up Zionist?>>>>>>>YES AMERICA AND ZIONSTAN,You ignorant Fool

 

[theliq]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Committed to what exactly?

For decades Arab countries, the USA, the EU and others have given money for Gaza to be built and rebuilt.

Most of that money has gone for Hamas homes, resorts, Malls, and especially for the building of tunnels to go under and into Israel for an invasion.

What can the Arab States, aka, the Arab League do now, as Hamas and all other militant groups in Gaza continue to be intent in wasting time and money attempting to destroy Israel as per their charter.

When will Hamas commit to destroy that charter and start using that money to build infrastructure for all the population, as it is done in Israel, Egypt, and other Arab countries.

Hezbollah is destroying Lebanon.
Hamas has been destroying Gaza.

What is the answer to the endless demand to destroy Israel and put all effort and money into it?

Well you Zionist and the UNUNITED STATES originated Armed and Cashed up HAMAS.....Idiot

 

[theliq]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Fair point Tinnie...steve

 

[theliq]

To create a sustainable solution for Gaza, the Arab states need to be on board and committed along with Israel.

Why?

Because the problem was not created in isolation or by Israel alone, all the players should be involved. Especially when the MidEast is so fragmented and volatile. Gaza Is desperate and it’s people feel hopeless. That makes it easy for extremist elements to make inroads among its people. If you want to prevent that, you need the committed support of all the people who had a hand in creating the problem.

Were all players involved in the Peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan?

How did the treaties come about?

Mainly, from the need to stop attacking Israel or the countries would collapse. They did not get the funding that Gaza and the PA do.

The extremists are running Gaza and the PA.

The extremist are creating the conditions for the people to be desperate and feel that they have to protest, riot and attack Israel.

Here is the testimony of someone who lives in Gaza. Here is why they riot:

Palestinian caught at Gaza fence says Hamas plans riots so ‘people won’t revolt’

I am not thinking about peace treaties but about the means to make Gaza sustainable.

OPEN THE PORT FACILITY,PUT UN TROOPS ALONG THE BORDERS AND GET THE IDF TO FCUK OFF,THAT'S ALL THAT IS NEEDED

 

[admonit]

This is an excellent commentary along the lines of what I was thinking when I opened this thread, but said far more eloquently.

The moral challenge of Gaza

I find nothing special in the article, just a common leftist rhetoric: "yes...but".
Yes, Israel has the right to defend herself but..
Yes, they are terrorists but..
It is not surprising that the article was not written in Hebrew - it is addressed to the liberal Western public.

 

[Andylusion]

Yes, I'm being provocative. (I'm bored with all the ridiculous discussion of people trying to demonize Israel for defending her borders from violent rioters talking about marching to Jerusalem ripping the hearts out of Jews. Ugh.)

So let's talk about the future of Gaza.

There are real humanitarian concerns here. There are real security concerns here. Neither are being addressed by Hamas or the citizens of Gaza. Can Israel step in? Should Israel step in?

Now, I'm not necessarily suggesting that Israel incorporate Gaza into Israel. My thinking is more that if everyone is saying Israel is occupying Gaza anyway -- why doesn't she actually go back to occupying it? Temporarily. Preferrably with the support of the at least some of the Gazan people. Possibly as a Mandate overseeing an economic revival, a re-building of infrastructure, a reduction in violence and a re-education of the next generation.

Is it possible for Israel to offer some carrots here? In the form of clean water, improved medical care, economic trade?

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

 

[admonit]

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

Now imagine what Israelis feel...

 

[theliq]

Yes, I'm being provocative. (I'm bored with all the ridiculous discussion of people trying to demonize Israel for defending her borders from violent rioters talking about marching to Jerusalem ripping the hearts out of Jews. Ugh.)

So let's talk about the future of Gaza.

There are real humanitarian concerns here. There are real security concerns here. Neither are being addressed by Hamas or the citizens of Gaza. Can Israel step in? Should Israel step in?

Now, I'm not necessarily suggesting that Israel incorporate Gaza into Israel. My thinking is more that if everyone is saying Israel is occupying Gaza anyway -- why doesn't she actually go back to occupying it? Temporarily. Preferrably with the support of the at least some of the Gazan people. Possibly as a Mandate overseeing an economic revival, a re-building of infrastructure, a reduction in violence and a re-education of the next generation.

Is it possible for Israel to offer some carrots here? In the form of clean water, improved medical care, economic trade?

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

MORON

 

[Coyote]

Yes, I'm being provocative. (I'm bored with all the ridiculous discussion of people trying to demonize Israel for defending her borders from violent rioters talking about marching to Jerusalem ripping the hearts out of Jews. Ugh.)

So let's talk about the future of Gaza.

There are real humanitarian concerns here. There are real security concerns here. Neither are being addressed by Hamas or the citizens of Gaza. Can Israel step in? Should Israel step in?

Now, I'm not necessarily suggesting that Israel incorporate Gaza into Israel. My thinking is more that if everyone is saying Israel is occupying Gaza anyway -- why doesn't she actually go back to occupying it? Temporarily. Preferrably with the support of the at least some of the Gazan people. Possibly as a Mandate overseeing an economic revival, a re-building of infrastructure, a reduction in violence and a re-education of the next generation.

Is it possible for Israel to offer some carrots here? In the form of clean water, improved medical care, economic trade?

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

Genocide much?

Desperate people do desperate things.

 

[Billo_Really]

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

What kind of animal shoots tear gas at a baby?

 

[Hollie]

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

What kind of animal shoots tear gas at a baby?

What kind of Islamic terrorist apologist would suggest that happened?

 

[rylah]

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

What kind of animal shoots tear gas at a baby?

What kind of animal brings a baby to a provocation against an army?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Here is the page for COGAT. Look at the bottom of the page how much goes into Gaza to help the people. How many get into Israel for medical help or jobs, exports, etc, from both Gaza and the PA.

http://www.cogat.mod.gov.il/en/Pages/default.aspx


Now, Hamas just yesterday rejected much needed two trucks full of medicine for its people simply because it was from Israel.

And this is a testimony by one of the Arabs arrested crossing the fence yesterday:

Watch: Arrested terrorist reveals all


How can the people in Gaza who have no weapons, no money and no power against Hamas turn against them when they know they are being used against Israel.

How can they make Gaza sustainable when Hamas appropriates itself of most of what they need out of the daily trucks which are sent by the International community?

 

[Andylusion]

Yes, I'm being provocative. (I'm bored with all the ridiculous discussion of people trying to demonize Israel for defending her borders from violent rioters talking about marching to Jerusalem ripping the hearts out of Jews. Ugh.)

So let's talk about the future of Gaza.

There are real humanitarian concerns here. There are real security concerns here. Neither are being addressed by Hamas or the citizens of Gaza. Can Israel step in? Should Israel step in?

Now, I'm not necessarily suggesting that Israel incorporate Gaza into Israel. My thinking is more that if everyone is saying Israel is occupying Gaza anyway -- why doesn't she actually go back to occupying it? Temporarily. Preferrably with the support of the at least some of the Gazan people. Possibly as a Mandate overseeing an economic revival, a re-building of infrastructure, a reduction in violence and a re-education of the next generation.

Is it possible for Israel to offer some carrots here? In the form of clean water, improved medical care, economic trade?

If it were up to me.....

I'd have a full military mobilization, and have the Israelis bomb the snot out of them, and then force them out.

Honestly, I am so fed up with these animals. They are animals. Give them a week to clear out, and the roll in the tanks. Tried of this crap. They don't even care about themselves, so how can we?

That mother, who dragged her infant to the boarder fence, and then cried when it died from tear gas?..... What kind of animal does that? Name one. Name one animal on the face of this Earth, that drags it's young into an area where it smells gas. RODENTS run from smoke fumes. RODENTS

BUGS RUN FROM FUMES

When you are less humane towards your own infant child.... THAN A BUG.....

Sorry... I am so done with these people.

MORON

Yeah, because I pointed out the truth. You can't answer a single point I made. Not even one. You don't even have a reply.

 

[Billo_Really]

What kind of Islamic terrorist apologist would suggest that happened?

What kind of Israeli kiss-ass would act like it didn't?

 

[Billo_Really]

What kind of animal brings a baby to a provocation against an army?

What kind of evil piece of shit would fire a tear gas canister

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BABY!