Is it time for a legitimate third party?

Again, which is why I clearly said that DOCTORS should be involved, not religious prudes like yourself.
Why are you calling me a religious prude, what have I said that makes me religious. That adults should take responsibiity and have responsible sex so they don't have conception? Are you equating that to religion. If so, my god, you are not only a troll, but a crazy, illogical one at that.
Incidently, I can't find any reference to Jennings having any health issues other than her weight, which has been an issue all of her life. And even there, she's lost a bunch of weight recently.
Um, there is an episode where Jazz's mom talks about having to potentially go in a dialate her vagina herself because Jazz wasn't doing it regularly enough.
The only one that mentions dilation is a homophobic article that constantly misgenders her.
Look harder.

And convenient to ignore everything else about GAC and that there are institutions that are stepping back from the narrative that GAC is some life saving security blanket. Continue to live in your biased black hole of information.
Maybe what we should do is look at what China is doing right.

They are spending on education.
They are spending on infrastructure.
They are building markets for their product through foreign assistance.

But, no, the Founding Slave Rapists couldn't imagine a modern state... so let's not do that.
Then move to china you commie loving man troll.
 
Why are you calling me a religious prude, what have I said that makes me religious. That adults should take responsibiity and have responsible sex so they don't have conception? Are you equating that to religion. If so, my god, you are not only a troll, but a crazy, illogical one at that.

Um, wanting to regulate other people's sex lives is what makes you a religious prude.
I don't care who is fucking who.
I don't care what they do to Globby the Fetus.
And I'm all for Gender Transition if it pisses off the religious people.

See, we are flaunting your God, and he won't do shit about it because he's too busy "not existing".

Um, there is an episode where Jazz's mom talks about having to potentially go in a dialate her vagina herself because Jazz wasn't doing it regularly enough.

Um, yeah, not sure what your point is here, given most kids don't follow medical advice and needs parents to make them take their medicine or therapy.

And convenient to ignore everything else about GAC and that there are institutions that are stepping back from the narrative that GAC is some life saving security blanket. Continue to live in your biased black hole of information.

Meh, I don't really care that much. GAC will become the norm. Big corporations are enforcing pronoun rules. Your side has already lost.

Then move to china you commie loving man troll.
Naw, we are going to fix this country.. Just give us time to import more immigrants, and you people are done. Heh, heh, heh...

If Trump gets re-elected, you guys will go down even faster because he'll run your party into the ground.
 
Um, wanting to regulate other people's sex lives is what makes you a religious prude.
Speculation, and just wrong, again.
I don't care who is fucking who.
I don't either, but you care about mine.
I don't care what they do to Globby the Fetus.
At the end of the day, that is someone else' decision. But and here is where you fail to at least acknowledge this point, most adults, know how babies are made. Most adults know how to NOT make a baby. My point, can consenting adults, make better choices up front, have respect for the capacity to create life, and do everything possible to not have to end that process by having protected sex. All I'm asking for is responsibility, in action, and in choice of partners. And this goes both ways for the man and woman. Men don't pressure women, and women make better decisions with whom your going to have sex with and be prepared.
And I'm all for Gender Transition if it pisses off the religious people.
That's why? Dumb reason to be "for" anything. Still ignoring anything else that presented and deflecting to religion, which I am not a "religious" person if that means I belong to some westernized modern day Christian denomination. I have my opinions, but one thing that I oppose is current day religion as I believe that most 'christians' have absolutely missed the boat. So I don't understand why you think i'm Religious. But comprehension is hard for you, so I'll give you a pass.
Um, yeah, not sure what your point is here, given most kids don't follow medical advice and needs parents to make them take their medicine or therapy.
What do you mean, I'll paraphrase "I can't find anything about Jazz except for shit from transphobes". I presented to you the fact that Jazz's mother is upset that her child's newly formed vagina from the former penis is going to close up because Jazz isn't dilating the new vag. Jazz is pretty much late teen if not an adult at this time. And GAC presents MANY healthcare concerns and risks. If you can't understand that, then your hopeless. GAC and full on transition is major medical procedure with many medical and long term healthcare risks. But you don't care. You think it will be norm. And look at you using "Big corporations" as some evidence to support your thoughts. I thought you hated big corporations. I guess only when it suits your needs.

Fast Forward to 7:00 to hear Mom talk about having to wake Jazz up to dilate her vag


Oh, and straight from the episode: I may never have an orgasm. That's GAC care for ya. You want that to be norm? You're insane.

 
The Democrats are the party of PC and Identity Politics. The GQP is the "Ugly American" party -- loud, arrogant and ignorant.

You really would think there would be a TON of room between the two, but our "system" (ha) makes it all but impossible.
 
I don't either, but you care about mine.
Naw, given what a prude you are, I doubt you are.

At the end of the day, that is someone else' decision. But and here is where you fail to at least acknowledge this point, most adults, know how babies are made. Most adults know how to NOT make a baby. My point, can consenting adults, make better choices up front, have respect for the capacity to create life, and do everything possible to not have to end that process by having protected sex. All I'm asking for is responsibility, in action, and in choice of partners. And this goes both ways for the man and woman. Men don't pressure women, and women make better decisions with whom your going to have sex with and be prepared.

Or...

Fetuses aren't people, and abortion is just another form of birth control, which is certainly how most women see it. Aborting an unwanted globby is taking responsibility. (and it pisses off the religious assholes, which makes it a bonus).

So, let's get down to brass takes. The right talks about "Late Term" abortions (actually, late-trimester abortion), and the left screams about rape and incest, but all these "Hard Cases" probably make up less than 1% of all abortions performed.

The vast majority of abortions are performed in the first trimester on healthy fetuses that were conceived between two consenting adults. ,

That's why? Dumb reason to be "for" anything. Still ignoring anything else that presented and deflecting to religion, which I am not a "religious" person if that means I belong to some westernized modern day Christian denomination. I have my opinions, but one thing that I oppose is current day religion as I believe that most 'christians' have absolutely missed the boat. So I don't understand why you think i'm Religious. But comprehension is hard for you, so I'll give you a pass.

Again, every thing you post reeks of "religious fanatic".

Again, when Christians have decided that Trump is the same as Jesus, yes, you have missed the boat.

What do you mean, I'll paraphrase "I can't find anything about Jazz except for shit from transphobes". I presented to you the fact that Jazz's mother is upset that her child's newly formed vagina from the former penis is going to close up because Jazz isn't dilating the new vag. Jazz is pretty much late teen if not an adult at this time. And GAC presents MANY healthcare concerns and risks. If you can't understand that, then your hopeless. GAC and full on transition is major medical procedure with many medical and long term healthcare risks. But you don't care. You think it will be norm. And look at you using "Big corporations" as some evidence to support your thoughts. I thought you hated big corporations. I guess only when it suits your needs.

Wow, medical procedures are quite unpleasent, aren't they? I could regale you with the details of prepping for my last colonoscopy, but I won't, because most medical shit is kind of gross.

All medical procedures come with some kind of risk, and most of it isn't pleasant.

All your scaremongering isn't going to impress me. Even if GAC were perfected (and at some point it will be) your sort would be against it because it offends your sexual insecurities.
 
The Democrats are the party of PC and Identity Politics. The GQP is the "Ugly American" party -- loud, arrogant and ignorant.

You really would think there would be a TON of room between the two, but our "system" (ha) makes it all but impossible.

No, not really.

The problem is, you can't get Seafood at Chipolte, and you can't get Mexican at Red Lobster.

Now, when I go to Red Lobster, I usually take a pass on some menu items, but as long as the have the ones I like, I'm good with it.

PC and Identity Politicas are your hobby horse, since HR told you that joke you told wasn't funny.

I look at issues in the following way.

1) Issues that effect my life.
2) Issues that have no effect on my life, but piss off people I don't like.
3) Issues that I am completely indifferent to.
 
Any other choice is anti-American, anti-liberty, anti-prosperity, pro Marxist totalitarianism.
It is sad to see you say this because it is exactly the opposite.

Trump stands for everything that exemplifies hatred of our country. Suspending the constitution, protectionism, expansion of libel and other methods to crack down on political speech, staffing the government based on 'loyalty' the the head and not loyalty to the constitution, destroying every norm that makes governance possible, using the DOJ as a political tool, the destruction of the rule of law and on and on and on and on.

Trump stands for nothing that I would consider an American core value. None of what makes us great is part of actually making the US great 'again.'
 
Trump stands for everything that exemplifies hatred of our country. Suspending the constitution, protectionism, expansion of libel and other methods to crack down on political speech, staffing the government based on 'loyalty' the the head and not loyalty to the constitution, destroying every norm that makes governance possible, using the DOJ as a political tool, the destruction of the rule of law and on and on and on and on.

Trump stands for nothing that I would consider an American core value. None of what makes us great is part of actually making the US great 'again.'
Yes.

And on top of that, he is essentially everything Jesus was not. So the quasi-religious aspect of this makes one wonder.
 
As others have said, the problem is not that we need a third party but that the current system does not allow a third party.

What we need is to rethink how the basis how our voting system works. Such is disincentivized though and I do not know how we can possibly change it.
 
It is sad to see you say this because it is exactly the opposite.

Trump stands for everything that exemplifies hatred of our country. Suspending the constitution, protectionism, expansion of libel and other methods to crack down on political speech, staffing the government based on 'loyalty' the the head and not loyalty to the constitution, destroying every norm that makes governance possible, using the DOJ as a political tool, the destruction of the rule of law and on and on and on and on.

Trump stands for nothing that I would consider an American core value. None of what makes us great is part of actually making the US great 'again.'
You're describing Obama/Biden/Harris not Trump. Have a nice day.
 
Yes.

And on top of that, he is essentially everything Jesus was not. So the quasi-religious aspect of this makes one wonder.
This is quite odd.

Seen a pastor the other day giving a sermon basically telling people to go vote for Trump but he had to constantly refer back to not voting for the person but the policies that stand with the bible because he knew damn well how counter Trump is to everything the bible stands for.

It was rather funny in a pathetic way he reached for those policies though. They boil down to one thing, trans issues. It really is simply trans issues for the right now and nothing else whatsoever.

I do not know how you can base your entire political identity, because these people do not have political ideologies or values but political identities, on trans rights alone. There are 350 million people in this nation all effected by FAR more than that.
 
This is quite odd.

Seen a pastor the other day giving a sermon basically telling people to go vote for Trump but he had to constantly refer back to not voting for the person but the policies that stand with the bible because he knew damn well how counter Trump is to everything the bible stands for.

It was rather funny in a pathetic way he reached for those policies though. They boil down to one thing, trans issues. It really is simply trans issues for the right now and nothing else whatsoever.

I do not know how you can base your entire political identity, because these people do not have political ideologies or values but political identities, on trans rights alone. There are 350 million people in this nation all effected by FAR more than that.
They've chosen their politics over their religion.

That's actually fine and all, but they clearly want to combine the two going forward. A Theocracy Lite™.

Looks like we may find out.
 
This is quite odd.

Seen a pastor the other day giving a sermon basically telling people to go vote for Trump but he had to constantly refer back to not voting for the person but the policies that stand with the bible because he knew damn well how counter Trump is to everything the bible stands for.

It was rather funny in a pathetic way he reached for those policies though. They boil down to one thing, trans issues. It really is simply trans issues for the right now and nothing else whatsoever.

I do not know how you can base your entire political identity, because these people do not have political ideologies or values but political identities, on trans rights alone. There are 350 million people in this nation all effected by FAR more than that.
That's due to a group who vote with their reproductive organs.
 
You're describing Obama/Biden/Harris not Trump. Have a nice day.
Nothing I said there was any of them but ALL under Trump. I can back all that up. You can only point vaguely to the left and make declarations. It was Trump that directly said that the constitution needs to be suspended. It was Trump who went to foreign allies and demanded announcements about investigations. Not investigations mind you, ANNOUNCEMENTS about investigations. It was Trump that said he wanted, and still does, to expand libel laws so people could not attack him in the news. He stands for protectionism, not the left anymore. It is slickening that the left is now the party of free trade. As far as I know, there are zero democrats that have demanded loyalty from any of their political appointees, something Trump has done multiple times. Loyalty to HIM, not the nation. Again, a fact and not the democrats. It is Trump who broke the idea that the president should be accountable to the law. That is no longer the case. Had our current SCOTUS existed during Watergate, Nixon would have not resigned and there would have been no investigation because he would have been immune.

Ya, tell us again how it is not Trump that stands counter to everything the nation stands for.

Sorry fox, standing behind Trump is a clear and unequivocal indication of a outright hatred of our nation and everything it stands for. Even if his supporters have no idea that is the case.
 

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