Is it really "illegal?"

[BuddyColt]

In the fourth posting on this thread, I wrote:

They {speaking about anti immigrant / National Socialists} have lied to you and they have misrepresented themselves to you. For ten years they have dodged and ducked me when I’ve challenged them to a public debate – one on one. When they feel threatened, like on these discussion boards, they turn the topic into a freaking joke; they continue to try and prove disproven myths just to baffle you. The rest of what I have to say regarding them is at this link:

http://www.freeforum101.com/outcasts...utcastsandoutl
Here we are, more than a hundred posts later and we've not progressed beyond the one misrepresentation regarding immigration. So, here is the truth:

It is not a crime to enter the United States nor is it a crime to be in the United States without papers.

No amount of political jockeying has altered that fact.

The xenophobes keep contending that a civil violation of the law is a crime. It isn't. The xenophobes will try and argue that the word improper means illegal. It doesn't. Improper is not a synonym for illegal in English or in legal literature. The xenophobes have tried to pawn cases off involving eluding authorities as immigration crimes, eluding authorities is a separate issue from entering improperly.

These people aren't smart enough to read; not intelligent enough to realize when they are getting their butts kicked. Yet they continue to send their own supporters to jails and prisons because they have no concept of nor respect for the due process of law.

In over a hundred postings, the xenophobes have not read and clicked on the links of the first four postings. Everything on this thread has been a rehash of those first four posts. The xenophobes have failed to read them. They're trying to answer an issue before they even know what in the hell it's about.

Nobody CARES what you say or when you previously said it.

They care about whether what you say is right or wrong.

And when you CLAIM that improper entry is not a crime, you are wrong and willfully dishonest.

You can talk shit all day long on the Internet. It's stuff you would not say to a man's face. If anybody is lying, it is you. I've accurately quoted the top people in the field of immigration. If I misquoted them, go back to the first four posts on this thread and produce them.

The only thing you've accomplished is to use irrelevant cases, over-turned cases and cases where the issue was NOT improper entry.

You sell your shit to the LEO community - they provided some of the information I have. If you were right, you could make a bundle. It would beat the shit out of arguing with me and competing with uneducated Hispanics for jobs at Mickey Ds.

Apparently nobody cares about what you say. You have a cheering section that is so small, they could fit into the back seat of a Volkswagen and they sport a collective IQ of maybe your shoe size. I came here with something others had not heard before.

The real issue is, with all your fake bravado; with all your supposed superior intelligence; with your infallible understanding of the immigration laws, how come it is you are on the losing end? How come all those who are making the decisions are ruling against you? How do you explain the many different views I produced from the TOP IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS in the United States that refute all you've claimed?

How come people are on here, calling me a liberal, when all my life the position I'm presenting was a CONSERVATIVE one? How come, in order to bolster your case, you have to ask the ACLU?

Let's face it: you're getting your ass kicked and you can't walk away. I've looked at your posts and commented on them. You've failed to answer the questions I've produced, over and over. We both know why. You're full of shit and you realize it. So, instead of answering honest questions, you throw up a smoke screen.

You're a ball-less little shit that probably got kicked out of the K.K.K. and now you don't know where it is you belong. Stay safe. Stay on this board and don't wander off where you might have to defend the crap you sling. You wouldn't talk so big if you had to do it man to man... or in your case boy, man to boy.

 

[Unkotare]

According to the GOP walking across a border is equal to killing someone

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

 

[Unkotare]

I don't think you can waltz into any country on this planet, set up camp, become a citizen by simple default, and instantaneously reap the benefits of that citizenship without in turn contributiing to society through some kind of productive effort.

My case is proven. See how this dumbass tries to turn the topic into a freaking cartoon and then advocates turning America into a country equal to a socialist dictatorship.

You thought you were being oh-so clever with this whole 'You're Nazis! Waaaa!' bullshit, didn't you?



You failed. Grow the fuck up if you really want to discuss the issue.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, it is. And.. yes, it should be.

Are you a complete idiot or just an occasional fool?

No, it isn't. And ..no, it shouldn't be'

Are you a neonazi or a natural born racist or xenophobe?!?

.

Are you one of those extremist idiots who would equate opposition to illegal immigration with racism, xenophobia, and (of course, because lefties get off on this one) Nazism?

Just so we're clear, are you one of those?

 

[Unkotare]

You can talk shit all day long on the Internet. It's stuff you would not say to a man's face. Stay safe. Stay on this board and don't wander off where you might have to defend the crap you sling. You wouldn't talk so big if you had to do it man to man... or in your case boy, man to boy.

LOL! Are you a tough guy now, little lefty? LOL!

 

[BuddyColt]

According to the GOP walking across a border is equal to killing someone

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

It appears to me that most of you xenophobes want a felony criminal consequence for a civil infraction of the law.

Actually, the Republicans are only telling you what you want to hear. Insofar as proving that this anti - immigrant horseshit is xenophobia, I've been proving it for a few days on this forum.

 

[Unkotare]

According to the GOP walking across a border is equal to killing someone

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

It appears to me that most of you xenophobes want a felony criminal consequence for a civil infraction of the law.

Actually, the Republicans are only telling you what you want to hear. Insofar as proving that this anti - immigrant horseshit is xenophobia, I've been proving it for a few days on this forum.

Stop spamming and answer the fucking question (since you decided to stick your nose in and answer for someone else). While you're at it, go ahead and "prove" that opposition to illegal immigration necessarily equates to xenophobia if you really must make more of a fool of yourself.

Better yet, STFU, go back to school, and grow up a little before mouthing off further.

 

[BuddyColt]

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

It appears to me that most of you xenophobes want a felony criminal consequence for a civil infraction of the law.

Actually, the Republicans are only telling you what you want to hear. Insofar as proving that this anti - immigrant horseshit is xenophobia, I've been proving it for a few days on this forum.

I have an open invitation to a debate forum where we won't use the multi-colored threads with cartoons and other distractions... no name calling, no BS. I can back it up. Have you got the guts to bring it?

Stop spamming and answer the fucking question (since you decided to stick your nose in and answer for someone else). While you're at it, go ahead and "prove" that opposition to illegal immigration necessarily equates to xenophobia if you really must make more of a fool of yourself.

Better yet, STFU, go back to school, and grow up a little before mouthing off further.

I'm about to kick your ass in your own back yard. New thread coming soon... You just proved the first point.

 

[Unkotare]

I'm about to kick your ass in your own back yard. New thread coming soon... You just proved the first point. You're too chickenshit to go to a Debate Forum where the circus atmosphere isn't welcome as a distraction. But, you're no problem. Stay tuned....

Not gonna spam up the url again and get your punk ass banned? Chickenshit indeed...


And if you think anything that happens on a discussion forum is 'ass kicking' then you are every bit the naive, mouthy little twerp I took you for.

 

[hortysir]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/223564-buddycolt-militia.html

 

[starcraftzzz]

According to the GOP walking across a border is equal to killing someone

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

Well considering GOPers basically say that the fact that illegals commit less crimes is irrelevant because the are illegal and that means they committed a crime yes i can support it

 

[starcraftzzz]

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

It appears to me that most of you xenophobes want a felony criminal consequence for a civil infraction of the law.

Actually, the Republicans are only telling you what you want to hear. Insofar as proving that this anti - immigrant horseshit is xenophobia, I've been proving it for a few days on this forum.

Stop spamming and answer the fucking question (since you decided to stick your nose in and answer for someone else). While you're at it, go ahead and "prove" that opposition to illegal immigration necessarily equates to xenophobia if you really must make more of a fool of yourself.

Better yet, STFU, go back to school, and grow up a little before mouthing off further.

Immigrants expand the economy and provide more benefits then they cost so they only reason to oppose immigration is because you hate brown people or you are a stupid idiot

 

[starcraftzzz]

Yes, it is. And.. yes, it should be.

Are you a complete idiot or just an occasional fool?

No, it isn't. And ..no, it shouldn't be'

Are you a neonazi or a natural born racist or xenophobe?!?

.

Are you one of those extremist idiots who would equate opposition to illegal immigration with racism, xenophobia, and (of course, because lefties get off on this one) Nazism?

Just so we're clear, are you one of those?

Opposing illegal immigration is opposing making yourself richer in order to benefit the lives of brown people; so if you oppose illegal immigration you are either a bigot/racists or a retard with an IQ lower then 70

 

[Unkotare]

According to the GOP walking across a border is equal to killing someone

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

Well considering GOPers basically say that the fact that illegals commit less crimes is irrelevant because the are illegal and that means they committed a crime yes i can support it

There is no logical connection between those two claims. I guess you can't back up that idiotic claim.

 

[Unkotare]

It appears to me that most of you xenophobes want a felony criminal consequence for a civil infraction of the law.

Actually, the Republicans are only telling you what you want to hear. Insofar as proving that this anti - immigrant horseshit is xenophobia, I've been proving it for a few days on this forum.

Stop spamming and answer the fucking question (since you decided to stick your nose in and answer for someone else). While you're at it, go ahead and "prove" that opposition to illegal immigration necessarily equates to xenophobia if you really must make more of a fool of yourself.

Better yet, STFU, go back to school, and grow up a little before mouthing off further.

Immigrants expand the economy and provide more benefits then they cost so they only reason to oppose immigration is because you hate brown people or you are a stupid idiot

Another illogical conclusion. Grow up and get your head out of your ass, kid.

 

[Unkotare]

No, it isn't. And ..no, it shouldn't be'

Are you a neonazi or a natural born racist or xenophobe?!?

.

Are you one of those extremist idiots who would equate opposition to illegal immigration with racism, xenophobia, and (of course, because lefties get off on this one) Nazism?

Just so we're clear, are you one of those?

Opposing illegal immigration is opposing making yourself richer in order to benefit the lives of brown people; so if you oppose illegal immigration you are either a bigot/racists or a retard with an IQ lower then 70

Again, entirely illogical. You are not helping your cause, dimwit.

 

[starcraftzzz]

Can you back up that idiotic claim?

Well considering GOPers basically say that the fact that illegals commit less crimes is irrelevant because the are illegal and that means they committed a crime yes i can support it

There is no logical connection between those two claims. I guess you can't back up that idiotic claim.

Well duh considering that you don't have a brain you cant know anythign about logical connections

 

[starcraftzzz]

Are you one of those extremist idiots who would equate opposition to illegal immigration with racism, xenophobia, and (of course, because lefties get off on this one) Nazism?

Just so we're clear, are you one of those?

Opposing illegal immigration is opposing making yourself richer in order to benefit the lives of brown people; so if you oppose illegal immigration you are either a bigot/racists or a retard with an IQ lower then 70

Again, entirely illogical. You are not helping your cause, dimwit.

Yes you being such a dumbass that you think reality is illogical and stupid means I am a dimwit

 

[starcraftzzz]

Stop spamming and answer the fucking question (since you decided to stick your nose in and answer for someone else). While you're at it, go ahead and "prove" that opposition to illegal immigration necessarily equates to xenophobia if you really must make more of a fool of yourself.

Better yet, STFU, go back to school, and grow up a little before mouthing off further.

Immigrants expand the economy and provide more benefits then they cost so they only reason to oppose immigration is because you hate brown people or you are a stupid idiot

Another illogical conclusion. Grow up and get your head out of your ass, kid.

Yes you hating people because of their skin collor means I am illoical

 

[LilOlLady]

Illegal Immigration is a Crime

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
See: Unlawful entry a crime since '29 - Rocky Mountain News -- June 11, 2006
Illegal Immigration IS A CRIME!

Ilegal immigraiton is a crime and illegal aiens are criminals.......