Is it POSSIBLE LH Oswald acted alone??

[LA RAM FAN]

Back to fart again I see candyass along with your gay lover Dawgshit.

 

[daws101]

you sir have been brainwashed and dont know the true evidence and facts. anymore fairy tales for the day you want to tell? Looks like you are unaware of the multiple unaccountable bullets found everywhere on the knoll and how all the dallas doctors said the entrance wound was to the forehead. oh and you obviously know nothing about this little tidbit below that shoots down that fairy tale of yours as well.I know you'll dodge it,everybody else on this thread has.

SO MUCH FOR THE PROPAGANDA OF THE WARREN COMMISSION THAT OSWALD FIRED A RIFLE AT KENNEDY..Read the paragraphs below.These two women Sandra Styles and Victoris Adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,Oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also INSISTED the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with MANY witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

And it was through Lane’s book that Barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria Adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” She was an employee who worked in the same building as one Lee Harvey Oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend Sandra Styles, stood on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and Styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear Oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the Commission said he did after he shot Kennedy.

This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did Adams not see a scrambling Oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his Coca-Cola? Because of the Warren Commission’s timeline, we know Oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, Adams also reports seeing Jack Ruby on the corner of Houston and Elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

From here the parallel stories broaden out. For Barry began to read more books critical of the Commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: the evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the Warren Report. The Commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about Oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled Barry’s curiosity was Victoria Adams. As the author writes at the end of Chapter 1, “What if she was right?”

Adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the Sheriff’s Department. And Victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: the other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., Sandy Styles who ran down the stairs with her, or Elsie Dorman or Dorothy May Garner who watched the motorcade with her.

The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in San Francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

Then, another odd thing happened. When David Belin and the Warren Commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra Styles was not with her. In fact, Barry could find no evidence that the Commission questioned Styles at all. Further, during her appearance, Belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the place where she and Oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., William Shelley and Billy Lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When Barry went to look up this exhibit in the Commission volumes—Commission Exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form Oswald filled out for his job at the Depository.

Further, although Styles did not testify that day, or at all, both Lovelady and Shelley did. And as Barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the Commission was making use of them to discredit Adams. Commission lawyer Joe Ball made sure he asked Shelley when and if he saw Adams after the shooting. And when Barry read Lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up Adams’ name before Ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “Vickie.” Barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to Adams. Did Lovelady know in advance that Ball was going to specifically ask about her?

Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the Warren Commission—and the Commission’s use of it—Adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the Commission. When her employer, publishing house Scott Foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of Dallas to Chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) While there, she actually now began to read the Warren Report. She now noted what they had done with Lovelady and Shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and Styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

discovering documents that bear out her veracity.

too much caffeine dear?
btw these are not your words, if you don't post a link then you're plagiarizing

90% of the words are spelled right so my money says that Rimjob stole those words and should be fined and/or jailed for it. In jail he can find someone that can take care of that shit fascination he has.

at the very least plug the hole

@

 

[daws101]

Back to fart again I see candyass along with your gay lover Dawgshit.

wow! a gay slur ,for anybody else that would be scraping bottom but for handjob it a step up the evolutionary ladder !

 

[Swingline50022]

I know that it's real cool to believe conspiracy when thinking of JFK's assasination. But the bottom line is:

Oswald acted alone.

you sir have been brainwashed and dont know the true evidence and facts. anymore fairy tales for the day you want to tell? Looks like you are unaware of the multiple unaccountable bullets found everywhere on the knoll and how all the dallas doctors said the entrance wound was to the forehead. oh and you obviously know nothing about this little tidbit below that shoots down that fairy tale of yours as well.I know you'll dodge it,everybody else on this thread has.

SO MUCH FOR THE PROPAGANDA OF THE WARREN COMMISSION THAT OSWALD FIRED A RIFLE AT KENNEDY..Read the paragraphs below.These two women Sandra Styles and Victoris Adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,Oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also INSISTED the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with MANY witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

And it was through Lane’s book that Barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria Adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” She was an employee who worked in the same building as one Lee Harvey Oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend Sandra Styles, stood on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and Styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear Oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the Commission said he did after he shot Kennedy.

This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did Adams not see a scrambling Oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his Coca-Cola? Because of the Warren Commission’s timeline, we know Oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, Adams also reports seeing Jack Ruby on the corner of Houston and Elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

From here the parallel stories broaden out. For Barry began to read more books critical of the Commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: the evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the Warren Report. The Commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about Oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled Barry’s curiosity was Victoria Adams. As the author writes at the end of Chapter 1, “What if she was right?”

Adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the Sheriff’s Department. And Victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: the other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., Sandy Styles who ran down the stairs with her, or Elsie Dorman or Dorothy May Garner who watched the motorcade with her.

The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in San Francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

Then, another odd thing happened. When David Belin and the Warren Commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra Styles was not with her. In fact, Barry could find no evidence that the Commission questioned Styles at all. Further, during her appearance, Belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the place where she and Oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., William Shelley and Billy Lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When Barry went to look up this exhibit in the Commission volumes—Commission Exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form Oswald filled out for his job at the Depository.

Further, although Styles did not testify that day, or at all, both Lovelady and Shelley did. And as Barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the Commission was making use of them to discredit Adams. Commission lawyer Joe Ball made sure he asked Shelley when and if he saw Adams after the shooting. And when Barry read Lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up Adams’ name before Ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “Vickie.” Barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to Adams. Did Lovelady know in advance that Ball was going to specifically ask about her?

Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the Warren Commission—and the Commission’s use of it—Adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the Commission. When her employer, publishing house Scott Foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of Dallas to Chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) While there, she actually now began to read the Warren Report. She now noted what they had done with Lovelady and Shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and Styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

discovering documents that bear out her veracity.

I think the Mark Lane book they're talking about is Plausible Denial, an essential read, as is his earlier book Rush To Judgment.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Plausible-Denial-Was-Involved-Assassination/dp/161608359X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336525525&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: Plausible Denial: Was the CIA Involved in the Assassination of JFK? (9781616083595): Mark Lane: Books[/ame]


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rush-Judgment-Critique-Commissions-President/dp/B0006DC4WI/ref=tmm_pap_title_0]Amazon.com: Rush to Judgment: A Critique of the Warren Commission's Inquiry into the Murders of President John F Kennedy, Officer J D Tippit, and Lee Harvey Oswald: Mark Lane, Hugh Trevor-Roper: Books[/ame]


Either of these two books offers abundant evidence that Oswald didn't act alone.

 

[daws101]

i know that it's real cool to believe conspiracy when thinking of jfk's assasination. But the bottom line is:

Oswald acted alone.

you sir have been brainwashed and dont know the true evidence and facts. Anymore fairy tales for the day you want to tell? Looks like you are unaware of the multiple unaccountable bullets found everywhere on the knoll and how all the dallas doctors said the entrance wound was to the forehead. Oh and you obviously know nothing about this little tidbit below that shoots down that fairy tale of yours as well.i know you'll dodge it,everybody else on this thread has.

So much for the propaganda of the warren commission that oswald fired a rifle at kennedy..read the paragraphs below.these two women sandra styles and victoris adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also insisted the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with many witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

And it was through lane’s book that barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” she was an employee who worked in the same building as one lee harvey oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend sandra styles, stood on the fourth floor of the texas school book depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the commission said he did after he shot kennedy.

This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did adams not see a scrambling oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his coca-cola? Because of the warren commission’s timeline, we know oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, adams also reports seeing jack ruby on the corner of houston and elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

from here the parallel stories broaden out. For barry began to read more books critical of the commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: The evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the warren report. The commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled barry’s curiosity was victoria adams. As the author writes at the end of chapter 1, “what if she was right?”

adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: The fbi, secret service, dallas police, and the sheriff’s department. And victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: The other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., sandy styles who ran down the stairs with her, or elsie dorman or dorothy may garner who watched the motorcade with her.

The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in san francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

Then, another odd thing happened. When david belin and the warren commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra styles was not with her. In fact, barry could find no evidence that the commission questioned styles at all. Further, during her appearance, belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the texas school book depository, the place where she and oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., william shelley and billy lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When barry went to look up this exhibit in the commission volumes—commission exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form oswald filled out for his job at the depository.

Further, although styles did not testify that day, or at all, both lovelady and shelley did. And as barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the commission was making use of them to discredit adams. Commission lawyer joe ball made sure he asked shelley when and if he saw adams after the shooting. And when barry read lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up adams’ name before ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “vickie.” barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to adams. Did lovelady know in advance that ball was going to specifically ask about her?

Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the warren commission—and the commission’s use of it—adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the commission. When her employer, publishing house scott foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of dallas to chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) while there, she actually now began to read the warren report. She now noted what they had done with lovelady and shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

discovering documents that bear out her veracity.

i think the mark lane book they're talking about is plausible denial, an essential read, as is his earlier book rush to judgment.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/plausible-denial-was-involved-assassination/dp/161608359x/ref=sr_1_1?ie=utf8&qid=1336525525&sr=8-1]amazon.com: Plausible denial: Was the cia involved in the assassination of jfk? (9781616083595): Mark lane: Books[/ame]


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/rush-judgment-critique-commissions-president/dp/b0006dc4wi/ref=tmm_pap_title_0]amazon.com: Rush to judgment: A critique of the warren commission's inquiry into the murders of president john f kennedy, officer j d tippit, and lee harvey oswald: Mark lane, hugh trevor-roper: Books[/ame]


either of these two books offers abundant evidence that oswald didn't act alone.

wouldn't that be abundant speculation?

 

[Swingline50022]

wouldn't that be abundant speculation?

I've read both these books and they offer abundant factual evidence including a lot of references to sworn depositions from government men who were intimately familiar with the case including but not limited to E. Howard Hunt and Richard Helms. Rush To Judgment also catalogs names of assassination witnesses to the murders of JFK, Officer J.D. Tippet, and Lee Harvey Oswald, who were mysteriously rubbed out before their testimonies could be taken by the Warren Commission.

 

[daws101]

wouldn't that be abundant speculation?

I've read both these books and they offer abundant factual evidence including a lot of references to sworn depositions from government men who were intimately familiar with the case including but not limited to E. Howard Hunt and Richard Helms. Rush To Judgment also catalogs names of assassination witnesses to the murders of JFK, Officer J.D. Tippet, and Lee Harvey Oswald, who were mysteriously rubbed out before their testimonies could be taken by the Warren Commission.

AND STILL NO EMPERICAL EVIDENCE TO BOLSTER THEIR CLAIMS.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

wouldn't that be abundant speculation?

I've read both these books and they offer abundant factual evidence including a lot of references to sworn depositions from government men who were intimately familiar with the case including but not limited to E. Howard Hunt and Richard Helms. Rush To Judgment also catalogs names of assassination witnesses to the murders of JFK, Officer J.D. Tippet, and Lee Harvey Oswald, who were mysteriously rubbed out before their testimonies could be taken by the Warren Commission.

I've read Plausible Denial but not Rush To Judgement.Want to sometime.It was one of the very first books critical of the warren commission that opened up peoples eyes that the warren commission was a fairy tale.Mark Lane actually put his life on the line when he wrote that book.Dont try to reason with Dawgshit.
He is just here to troll.Anything that doesnt go along with the governments version of events about ANYTHING,he ignores.He wont read any book you refer him to.

This thread starter you can have a reasonable conversation with.He flip flops about this and goes back and forth saying he did not think oswald did it,then later changes his mind but thats good.at least he is not close minded.He just needs to stop listeing to the trolls like dawgshit and rightwinger.Thats what they are here for is to try and confuse people like him that have doubts.

btw,have you seen that video I posted here.THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/219404-is-it-possible-lh-oswald-acted-alone-2.html

The evidence in there is overwhelming that Bush was involved even more so than Lanes book Plausible Denial talks about.Please watch it if you havent.People like this thread starter should also watch it because it shows the multiple unaccountable bullets that were recovered and never mentioned by the commission.

 

[daws101]

I've read both these books and they offer abundant factual evidence including a lot of references to sworn depositions from government men who were intimately familiar with the case including but not limited to E. Howard Hunt and Richard Helms. Rush To Judgment also catalogs names of assassination witnesses to the murders of JFK, Officer J.D. Tippet, and Lee Harvey Oswald, who were mysteriously rubbed out before their testimonies could be taken by the Warren Commission.

I've read Plausible Denial but not Rush To Judgement.Want to sometime.It was one of the very first books critical of the warren commission that opened up peoples eyes that the warren commission was a fairy tale.Mark Lane actually put his life on the line when he wrote that book.Dont try to reason with Dawgshit.
He is just here to troll.Anything that doesnt go along with the governments version of events about ANYTHING,he ignores.He wont read any book you refer him to.

This thread starter you can have a reasonable conversation with.He flip flops about this and goes back and forth saying he did not think oswald did it,then later changes his mind but thats good.at least he is not close minded.He just needs to stop listeing to the trolls like dawgshit and rightwinger.Thats what they are here for is to try and confuse people like him that have doubts.

btw,have you seen that video I posted here.THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/219404-is-it-possible-lh-oswald-acted-alone-2.html

The evidence in there is overwhelming that Bush was involved even more so than Lanes book Plausible Denial talks about.Please watch it if you havent.People like this thread starter should also watch it because it shows the multiple unaccountable bullets that were recovered and never mentioned by the commission.

 

[Swingline50022]

I've read both these books and they offer abundant factual evidence including a lot of references to sworn depositions from government men who were intimately familiar with the case including but not limited to E. Howard Hunt and Richard Helms. Rush To Judgment also catalogs names of assassination witnesses to the murders of JFK, Officer J.D. Tippet, and Lee Harvey Oswald, who were mysteriously rubbed out before their testimonies could be taken by the Warren Commission.

I've read Plausible Denial but not Rush To Judgement.Want to sometime.It was one of the very first books critical of the warren commission that opened up peoples eyes that the warren commission was a fairy tale.Mark Lane actually put his life on the line when he wrote that book.Dont try to reason with Dawgshit.
He is just here to troll.Anything that doesnt go along with the governments version of events about ANYTHING,he ignores.He wont read any book you refer him to.

This thread starter you can have a reasonable conversation with.He flip flops about this and goes back and forth saying he did not think oswald did it,then later changes his mind but thats good.at least he is not close minded.He just needs to stop listeing to the trolls like dawgshit and rightwinger.Thats what they are here for is to try and confuse people like him that have doubts.

btw,have you seen that video I posted here.THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/219404-is-it-possible-lh-oswald-acted-alone-2.html

The evidence in there is overwhelming that Bush was involved even more so than Lanes book Plausible Denial talks about.Please watch it if you havent.People like this thread starter should also watch it because it shows the multiple unaccountable bullets that were recovered and never mentioned by the commission.

Thanks 9/11, I've seen the Bush/JFK tape and it's pretty compelling and well worth watching. Another book I'd like to recommend to anybody open-minded enough to question the official version on the JFK assassination is David Lifton's Best Evidence which which shows strong if not irrefutable evidence that the killing shot came from the front, as well as giving a good summary of all the other evidence that was already known as early as the 60s and 70s, although our government and major media will never fully acknowledge it; they'll just keep throwing misinformation at us about it, through media plants like that stooge Gerald Posner.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I've read Plausible Denial but not Rush To Judgement.Want to sometime.It was one of the very first books critical of the warren commission that opened up peoples eyes that the warren commission was a fairy tale.Mark Lane actually put his life on the line when he wrote that book.Dont try to reason with Dawgshit.
He is just here to troll.Anything that doesnt go along with the governments version of events about ANYTHING,he ignores.He wont read any book you refer him to.

This thread starter you can have a reasonable conversation with.He flip flops about this and goes back and forth saying he did not think oswald did it,then later changes his mind but thats good.at least he is not close minded.He just needs to stop listeing to the trolls like dawgshit and rightwinger.Thats what they are here for is to try and confuse people like him that have doubts.

btw,have you seen that video I posted here.THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/219404-is-it-possible-lh-oswald-acted-alone-2.html

The evidence in there is overwhelming that Bush was involved even more so than Lanes book Plausible Denial talks about.Please watch it if you havent.People like this thread starter should also watch it because it shows the multiple unaccountable bullets that were recovered and never mentioned by the commission.

Thanks 9/11, I've seen the Bush/JFK tape and it's pretty compelling and well worth watching. Another book I'd like to recommend to anybody open-minded enough to question the official version on the JFK assassination is David Lifton's Best Evidence which which shows strong if not irrefutable evidence that the killing shot came from the front, as well as giving a good summary of all the other evidence that was already known as early as the 60s and 70s, although our government and major media will never fully acknowledge it; they'll just keep throwing misinformation at us about it, through media plants like that stooge Gerald Posner.

Glad to hear you have watched that video.Dont you agree that it is a MUST SEE video? The other thing I like about it is people who have researched the case all know about Johnsons involvement in it,but a lot of them dont know about Nixons involvement in it as well.For years they could only speculate about it but the suppressed information in there is overwhelming of his involvement as well.

I had no idea that after serving under Nixons pal Johnson,that Connolly shocked the nation by switching parties by deciding to serve under Dick Nixon when Nixon became elected.They were all pals with each other.I had never known about the multiple unaccountable bullets found but covered up by policemen as well either did you?
Pretty amazing the stuff thats been suppressed from us all these years isnt it?

Yeah Liftons book is an excellent read as well.Its funny that you should mention that book of Liftons cause I just finished reading that book of his about a couple months ago.Like you said,it totally shreads to pieces Posners propaganda that oswald was the lone assassin revealing how all the dallas doctors said they saw a big hole in the back of his head and that it was an exit wound and that the wound on the forehead was an entrance wound.

There is another excellent book out that counters Posners lies and propaganda that researcher Harold Weisberg wrote appropriately called CASE OPEN.Thats another book you should read sometime if you havent.

Also since you mentioned Mark Lane,you might be interested in knowing that he wrote another book that just got released this year as well called THE LAST WORD.Here is some info on it.Its a great read.

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Last-Word-Indictment-CIA-Murder/dp/1616084286[/ame]

He counters the lies and propaganda of the latest desperate attempt from the government to brainwash people with the lies that oswald did it.Recently a book was released last year called THE KENNEDY DETAIL and in that book,one of the ss agents writes a bunch of propaganda that oswald was the lone assassin.He obviously got paid very well by the government to write his lies.Well Lanes book THE LAST WORD counters his lies and propaganda.

Here is a short vidoe where he talks about it.



amazing how all the lone nut theorists are avoiding the posts of anyone that comes on here that has information that counters the propaganda of the warren commission isnt it? You notice that not ONE of them has even tried to counter the facts we present? that not one of them has said anything about that video THE JFK/BUSH connection or have said they would watch it? or have commented on anything you have said? People sure are in denial about this even after all these years.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

IMO the anwer is no. It seems very clear the shot came from the front.

Thats where people get fooled.

It seems that from the Zap film its a no-brainer that the fatal head shot came from the front - from the area of the picket fence on the grassy knoll.

The presidents head jerks backward violently....

Posner explains this in his book.

It was a reflective reaction to the bullet hitting him from behind.

laws of physics cannot be ignored, I don't think the force of a bullut from a high powered rifle can be dismissed as a muscle reaction.

Truthseeker and Crusader Frank seem to be the only posters on here besides us Swingline that understand the laws of physics. They must have been taken in by Posners book.His book is cleverly written,he actually had me going for the first 50 pages or so believing his propaganda but then he started telling things that were just outright lies that everybody knows not to be true like Ruby having no connections to the mob and crap like that,that he exposed what a liar he was.

Plus he did not know that I had done my own research as well.He goes on to say in his book that the reason the epilepic who was faking a siezure that an ambulance came and picked him up minutes before the assassination,that the reason there was no record of his admittance to the hospital he was taken to is because he goes on to say that after the ambulance got to the hospital,the reason he was not taken into the hospital, was because he was feeling much better when he got there so he told the medical personal that and thats why he did not get checked in.

Thats pure B.s because I personally got to meet Aubrey Rike the ambulance driver who drove him there to the hospital that day at a conference in dallas once and he told me that when he got to the hospital,he didnt say ANY of that,that he just got up and left and ran off.Weisberg confirms that in his book CASE OPEN as well that Rike told him the same thing. Anytime I have asked disinfo agent Rightwinger here in the past who propagates Posners lies CASE CLOSED to read that book of Wesibergs book CASE OPEN,He runs off and wont read it because he knows he cant counter Weisbergs facts and evidence which shreads to pieces Posners lies.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Agreed. He was at the right place, at the right time.

Oswald read in the paper that the presidential motorcade would be passing by his place of work. So he took his gun to work, fired three shots and blew JFKs brains out

Oswald got off three shots. If there were two shooters, many more shots would have been fired. Also, if it were a conspiracy, Oswald would have had a much better gun than the $19 single shot rifle that he used

What if Oswald was told that he would be one of many shooters so he could not be singled out ? He did claim that he was a "patsy".

that shreads to pieces the warren commissions fairy tales that oswald was seeking fame and attention.Since when does an assassian who is seeking fame and attention say to the american public-"I didnt shoot anybody.Im just a patsy.?" and then go on and say when asked if he had shot Tippet-No Sir,I did not shoot anybody,matter of fact this is the first time I have heard of being charged with that crime.I request a lawyer to come forward and represent me.

yep,for sure a lone nut seeking fame and attention.

as we both know swingline,the lone nut theorists will ignore this point like they have ignored ALL our points since it shoots down their fairy tales.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Police report says he took the stairs. What reason would a Dallas cop have for giving Oswald an alibi?

No idea, fame? Notariety maybe? If oswald didn't do it then why did he run and why did he shoot the cop, and why wasn't he caught by the cop in the cafeteria?

I call bull shit.

Oswald was a CIA asset who very likely also sold out the U-2 spy plane operation to the KGB when he defected to the USSR and later returned to the US with a Russian wife. He knew enough to figure out that he was probably going to be the patsy in this assassination attempt, so he ran. He probably shot the cop because he was on the run and didn't want to get taken to the Dallas jail where he might get railroaded and maybe later be shot by some interesting personality like Jack Ruby. Maybe he was hoping to run to Cuba or back to the USSR, the possibilities are practically endless. He wasn't caught by the cop in the cafeteria because at that time there was no warrant out on him and no obvious reason why the cop might have even recognized him. By the same token, why didn't the cop arrest everybody else in the cafeteria as well?

See what I am talking about Swingline? This is what Pred fan ALWAYS does when he is countered with evidence and facts that prove oswald was innocent.He runs off refusing to admit defeat.

 

[daws101]

No idea, fame? Notariety maybe? If oswald didn't do it then why did he run and why did he shoot the cop, and why wasn't he caught by the cop in the cafeteria?

I call bull shit.

Oswald was a CIA asset who very likely also sold out the U-2 spy plane operation to the KGB when he defected to the USSR and later returned to the US with a Russian wife. He knew enough to figure out that he was probably going to be the patsy in this assassination attempt, so he ran. He probably shot the cop because he was on the run and didn't want to get taken to the Dallas jail where he might get railroaded and maybe later be shot by some interesting personality like Jack Ruby. Maybe he was hoping to run to Cuba or back to the USSR, the possibilities are practically endless. He wasn't caught by the cop in the cafeteria because at that time there was no warrant out on him and no obvious reason why the cop might have even recognized him. By the same token, why didn't the cop arrest everybody else in the cafeteria as well?

See what I am talking about Swingline? This is what Pred fan ALWAYS does when he is countered with evidence and facts that prove oswald was innocent.He runs off refusing to admit defeat.

are you done talking to yourself?

 

[Swingline50022]

I didn't want to believe that Kennedy was eliminated in a virtual coup d'etat either but the longer one looks at it the harder it is to avoid facing the facts.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I didn't want to believe that Kennedy was eliminated in a virtual coup d'etat either but the longer one looks at it the harder it is to avoid facing the facts.

same thing here.when i first read CASE CLOSED,Posner had me going.I was actually thinking after reading the first fifty pages or so that the warren commision was correct saying to myself-Well maybe oswald did do it.I was hoping that book was the answer and that it solved everything but then after the first 50 pages or so,when he started telling outright lies like the ambulance personell saying the eplilepic did not check into the hospital because he told the medical personl that drove him that he was feeing much better,outright lies like that that they have all publicly said was a lie,that he never said that,and one lie after another kept emerging,I knew that Posner was a paid propagandist and his book was propaganda. Like i said,amazing how everybody that defends the official version,anytime we post something that refutes their facts,they run off and wont come back here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So Swingline,since none of the other lone nut theorists want to debate us,want to ask a few questions that I asked previously but you never got around to answering which is fine because we were sharing so much information with each other and everyone else Im sure it was hard for you to keep track of it all so here it is again.

1.Before that video THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION was made,I had no idea there were so many unnaccountable multiple bullets that were found and covered up by authorties did you? that more than anything else is why people who think oswald did it,should look at that video.
2.Have you read Lanes newest book THE LAST WORD?
3.Have you read Weisbergs book CASE OPEN that shreads to pieces Posners lies in CASE CLOSED?
4.you mentioned the part of Oswald shooting Tippet the policemen but just like with kennedy,there is no evidence there either that he shot him.For instance,are you not aware that his landlord said she saw two men fire at him and run off in different directions and that in her descriptions of them,neither discreption of the two suspects matched Oswald? Also were you aware that the cab driver who was the closet witness to the shooting,he also described two men doing it and neither matched oswalds description either? and more importantly,when he testified that to the warren commission,shortly afterwards,his cousin who looked and awful lot like him and was a dead ringer for looking just like him,was found shot to death and shortly afterwards because of that,he changed his story and said Oswald did it?

5.finally the police oficer at the scene did not mark the shell casings so they had no proof that the bullets fired at tippet were from oswalds gun.

In Lanes newest book,he exposes what The Kennedy Detail book conviently left out that all the secret service men on Kennedys detail were racists and that they hated kenendy because he was for civil rights and equal rights for blacks.one secret serviceman who was black that served on Kennedys detail talked about how the secret servicemen said they would never take a bullet for Kennedy.Thats why the assassination succeded.The scret servicemen were rednecks and hated blacks and they got referred to that black secret serviceman as a ****** all the time.Here is another really good video everybody that as posted on this thread should look at.The lone nut theorists of course wont obviously.

 

[Swingline50022]

I have not read The Last Word or Case Open. The multiple bullets like the shell casing evidence has been walked all over and has no chain of evidence that would have ever been admissible in a hypothetical Oswald murder trial. All this has been well known since the 1960s when Mark Lane published Rush To Judgment, one of the first in a long series of books by reputable independent researchers into the JFK assassination. The Tippet murder case shares a butchered chain of evidence. The murder and cohersion you describe sounds very similar to similar stories covered in detail in Rush To Judgment which is still one of the most detailed criticisms of the official story characterized by the Warren Report cover up. The amount of evidence that there was a cover up is overwhelming, and the cover up itself amounts to a conspiracy all by itself.