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There is the 'glass house' syndrome.I do complain more if the other guy won.
And if a candidate I voted for prevails and then makes some horrible decisions, I may be partially to blame … BUT yeah. I can bellyache about those bad choices.
And who do you (as a democrat) think we should want over Trump?
Delegating something to someone else doesn't forfeit your right to complain.
If you vote for his opponent. That may be true. But if you don’t vote at all, then you are choosing to just let the other folks make the choice. This makes you partially responsible.Nope. If I don't vote for Trump, I'm in NO WAY responsible for his election.
Nope. You’re wrong. It’s an unavoidable truth. I don’t take blame for the many Potato fuckups and I do complain about him because I voted for Trump.Likewise with Biden. That's just a con the major parties use to browbeat people into voting for their bad candidates.
Not really. Maybe a bit less blame. The consequences of wasting their votes on a symbolic gesture is similar to not voting at all. In that sense, yeah.Would you say third party voters are also responsible for whoever wins, assuming it's not their candidate?
It's pragmatism vs idealism.Nope. If I don't vote for Trump, I'm in NO WAY responsible for his election. Likewise with Biden. That's just a con the major parties use to browbeat people into voting for their bad candidates.
Would you say third party voters are also responsible for whoever wins, assuming it's not their candidate?
Not at all.There is the 'glass house' syndrome.
Choosing “not to vote” simply means that you allow others to make the decision without any input from you.
It should come with a single penalty:
you are agreeing not to voice any subsequent complaints about whoever wins the election.
Ok. Well then...bye.There are no more viable candidates now. Y'all tossed a great plan B under the bus. So I'll either find a conservative 3rd party to support. Or I'll simply skip voting this time.
Most of our problems are caused by liberal thinking and actions regardless of party.
Which one?Yeah. It kinda does. But only in a limited sense. Your endless repetition of your contention doesn’t prove it.
If you vote for his opponent.
And if you'd voted for someone else?Nope. You’re wrong. It’s an unavoidable truth. I don’t take blame for the many Potato fuckups and I do complain about him because I voted for Trump.
It's not symbolic, and it's not a waste. This is just the gun-to-the-head scam that partisans use to bully people into falling in line. "Vote for our guy or you're to blame for whatever happens!" - NO.Not really. Maybe a bit less blame. The consequences of wasting their votes on a symbolic gesture is similar to not voting at all. In that sense, yeah.
No, it's not. It's very simple and obvious. Don't vote for a bad candidate on purpose. You're fucking your country if you do.It's pragmatism vs idealism.
Yeah, you should stay out of this one. You are too confused to make a decision like that.As a democrat? What are you stupid? I support small, limited government that lives within it's means. How TF does that make me a democrat?
Who's better than Trump? DeSantis for one. But he's gone. Thanks to the Trump Tribe. He wasn't as conservative as I'd like. But his executive record was leaps and bounds right of Trumps.
There are no more viable candidates now. Y'all tossed a great plan B under the bus. So I'll either find a conservative 3rd party to support. Or I'll simply skip voting this time.
But I'm damn sure not going to support a RINO or a democrat.
It's pragmatism vs idealism.
Or as a simple man would say, you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Choosing to vote, means your asking for that person to rule over you.
This is a little dramatic. But the point, especially about voting, is spot on.
No, it's not. It's very simple and obvious. Don't vote for a bad candidate on purpose. You're fucking your country if you do.
You believe it! Hahaha haha, yeah interference and threats against trump! Raise the Russia Russia card! Hahaha I see the cheat, it’s fking obviousIf Trump had made good on his important promises, he would've gained seats in the House and Senate.
You know, like DeSantis did.
Right now it's a binary choice.No, it's not. It's very simple and obvious. Don't vote for a bad candidate on purpose. You're fucking your country if you do.
Nope, only demofksChoosing to vote, means your asking for that person to rule over you
Not yet. We're still allowed to vote for someone else.Right now it's a binary choice.
Again, both candidates are below my minimum threshold for the Presidency. What is your minimum?Open border Biden or secure border Trump.
Gun grabber Biden or pro-gun Trump.
Pro-war Biden or pro-peace Trump.
New world order Biden or America First Trump.
Climate Change Biden or reality Trump.
Yes...Trump spent money. Yes, Trump banned bump stocks.
But Biden spends more, and Biden wants to ban guns.
One of these men are going to be president and set the agenda for the next four years.
Choosing to vote means you want a person making official decisions that impact you to be of a similar political belief system.
We are governed. We are not ruled. We are citizens. Not subjects.
You're cliché's are meaningless.
If you knew the dealer was cheating, would you still play ante into the game?
If you knew parachutes has only a 10% chance of opening, would you still go sky diving?
