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Heres a question whats the Hamas health plan, does it cover premature detonations?
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Yes it is.[/quote
What does it mean when the son of its founder, reaches such conclusions about Hamas and Islam?
it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.
hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.
i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".
there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
So was this guy!Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
Said pot to kettle.Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled Terror. Shamir wrote,
Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.
First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.
It's just a plain it.Facts and Saigoon don't mix well.
So true. He's too much of a coward to deal with real facts.
I thought it was a she
Not by US State Dept standards.So was this guy!Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
Said pot to kettle.Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled Terror. Shamir wrote,
Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.
First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.
You of course have no proof just false accusations and assumptions.Yes it is.[/quote
What does it mean when the son of its founder, reaches such conclusions about Hamas and Islam?
it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.
hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.
i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".
there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
Sad, but true.Not by US State Dept standards.
Not by US State Dept standards.So was this guy!Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
Said pot to kettle.Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled Terror. Shamir wrote,
Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.
First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.
You of course have no proof just false accusations and assumptions.it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.
hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.
i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".
there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
i have read your posts and it appears that your sole criterion as to whether a statement is factual or accurate is how closely it aligns to your ideology or your perception of a situation. "son of hamas" is a perfect example. you find it entirely creditable that a young man/adolescent raised in the poverty of an occupied state, or a state under siege, who finds himself in the hands of those who have created such conditions would cooperate with his warders strictly out of a sense of noblesse oblige and that economic incentive and the promise of not having to be subjected to physical abuse had nothing to do with his turning.
and of course, israeli intelligence agents would never even remotely consider making an offer to one of its prisoners because we all know what an anathema spying and other such forms of subterfuge is to israelis, zionists, and the jewish people.
so you are right. i have no proof for you at all because all the proof in heaven or on earth is insufficient for an unreasonable and dogmatic man.
LOL...also, i am not sure exactly what you want me to prove. mosab hassan yousef, by his own admission, corroborates what i said, for the most part. he was imprisoned by shin bet at an early age and was paid by them to spy on his family and HAMAS. those are facts. his motives and integrity are certainly open to question, as are what he claims are his motive to be. i very sincerely doubt if he would admit that money was involved or the prospect of seeking political asylum in america.
you however, seem to be willing to take the word of the worst kind of paid turncoat and traitor at his word and as promoted by a well known and thoroughly disreputable propaganda site, MEMRI, an organisation founded by an ex-israeli intelligence agent and largely staffed by, lo and behold, by israelis, jews, and many ex- israeli intelligence agents. my god, how could anybody ever question the even the remote possibility of bias in such an august group?
Nah, actually if you remove our head from Uranus you will realize that after he was released he still had not "switched over". It was only after the treatment he and his fellow recently released fellow Hamas members had gotten, that he realized that the Israelis are a million times better. It was then that he concluded by comparing the two, the Israelis a civilized society with laws and human rights, and Hamas, a bunch of lawless wild terrorists that do as they please to whomever they please with no repect for life, human rights, or anything.You of course have no proof just false accusations and assumptions.
i have read your posts and it appears that your sole criterion as to whether a statement is factual or accurate is how closely it aligns to your ideology or your perception of a situation. "son of hamas" is a perfect example. you find it entirely creditable that a young man/adolescent raised in the poverty of an occupied state, or a state under siege, who finds himself in the hands of those who have created such conditions would cooperate with his warders strictly out of a sense of noblesse oblige and that economic incentive and the promise of not having to be subjected to physical abuse had nothing to do with his turning.
and of course, israeli intelligence agents would never even remotely consider making an offer to one of its prisoners because we all know what an anathema spying and other such forms of subterfuge is to israelis, zionists, and the jewish people.
so you are right. i have no proof for you at all because all the proof in heaven or on earth is insufficient for an unreasonable and dogmatic man.
LOL...also, i am not sure exactly what you want me to prove. mosab hassan yousef, by his own admission, corroborates what i said, for the most part. he was imprisoned by shin bet at an early age and was paid by them to spy on his family and HAMAS. those are facts. his motives and integrity are certainly open to question, as are what he claims are his motive to be. i very sincerely doubt if he would admit that money was involved or the prospect of seeking political asylum in america.
you however, seem to be willing to take the word of the worst kind of paid turncoat and traitor at his word and as promoted by a well known and thoroughly disreputable propaganda site, MEMRI, an organisation founded by an ex-israeli intelligence agent and largely staffed by, lo and behold, by israelis, jews, and many ex- israeli intelligence agents. my god, how could anybody ever question the even the remote possibility of bias in such an august group?
It was then that he concluded Islam as the main culprit and it's disastous effect on society and the mentality of people it infects with intolerance.
Nah, actually if you remove our head from Uranus you will realize that after he was released he still had not "switched over". It was only after the treatment he and his fellow recently released fellow Hamas members had gotten, that he realized that the Israelis are a million times better. It was then that he concluded by comparing the two, the Israelis a civilized society with laws and human rights, and Hamas, a bunch of lawless wild terrorists that do as they please to whomever they please with no repect for life, human rights, or anything.i have read your posts and it appears that your sole criterion as to whether a statement is factual or accurate is how closely it aligns to your ideology or your perception of a situation. "son of hamas" is a perfect example. you find it entirely creditable that a young man/adolescent raised in the poverty of an occupied state, or a state under siege, who finds himself in the hands of those who have created such conditions would cooperate with his warders strictly out of a sense of noblesse oblige and that economic incentive and the promise of not having to be subjected to physical abuse had nothing to do with his turning.
and of course, israeli intelligence agents would never even remotely consider making an offer to one of its prisoners because we all know what an anathema spying and other such forms of subterfuge is to israelis, zionists, and the jewish people.
so you are right. i have no proof for you at all because all the proof in heaven or on earth is insufficient for an unreasonable and dogmatic man.
LOL...also, i am not sure exactly what you want me to prove. mosab hassan yousef, by his own admission, corroborates what i said, for the most part. he was imprisoned by shin bet at an early age and was paid by them to spy on his family and HAMAS. those are facts. his motives and integrity are certainly open to question, as are what he claims are his motive to be. i very sincerely doubt if he would admit that money was involved or the prospect of seeking political asylum in america.
you however, seem to be willing to take the word of the worst kind of paid turncoat and traitor at his word and as promoted by a well known and thoroughly disreputable propaganda site, MEMRI, an organisation founded by an ex-israeli intelligence agent and largely staffed by, lo and behold, by israelis, jews, and many ex- israeli intelligence agents. my god, how could anybody ever question the even the remote possibility of bias in such an august group?
It was then that he concluded Islam as the main culprit and it's disastous effect on society and the mentality of people it infects with intolerance.
No, that couldn't be it.
Yes that is it in a nutshell. He saw Hamas torture him and his fellow recently released prisoners. That's when he realized Hamas are just a bunch of thugs waving the banner of Islam, with no ine to answer to. He delved in, and realized the catastrophe that Islam is and it's effects in Palestinian and other societies. He saw the light, and he gravitated towards it. I give him all the credit in the world. He is truly a brave man.Nah, actually if you remove our head from Uranus you will realize that after he was released he still had not "switched over". It was only after the treatment he and his fellow recently released fellow Hamas members had gotten, that he realized that the Israelis are a million times better. It was then that he concluded by comparing the two, the Israelis a civilized society with laws and human rights, and Hamas, a bunch of lawless wild terrorists that do as they please to whomever they please with no repect for life, human rights, or anything.
It was then that he concluded Islam as the main culprit and it's disastous effect on society and the mentality of people it infects with intolerance.
No, that couldn't be it.
Roudy, you took the words right out of my mouth. THANKSNah, actually if you remove our head from Uranus you will realize that after he was released he still had not "switched over". It was only after the treatment he and his fellow recently released fellow Hamas members had gotten, that he realized that the Israelis are a million times better. It was then that he concluded by comparing the two, the Israelis a civilized society with laws and human rights, and Hamas, a bunch of lawless wild terrorists that do as they please to whomever they please with no repect for life, human rights, or anything.i have read your posts and it appears that your sole criterion as to whether a statement is factual or accurate is how closely it aligns to your ideology or your perception of a situation. "son of hamas" is a perfect example. you find it entirely creditable that a young man/adolescent raised in the poverty of an occupied state, or a state under siege, who finds himself in the hands of those who have created such conditions would cooperate with his warders strictly out of a sense of noblesse oblige and that economic incentive and the promise of not having to be subjected to physical abuse had nothing to do with his turning.
and of course, israeli intelligence agents would never even remotely consider making an offer to one of its prisoners because we all know what an anathema spying and other such forms of subterfuge is to israelis, zionists, and the jewish people.
so you are right. i have no proof for you at all because all the proof in heaven or on earth is insufficient for an unreasonable and dogmatic man.
LOL...also, i am not sure exactly what you want me to prove. mosab hassan yousef, by his own admission, corroborates what i said, for the most part. he was imprisoned by shin bet at an early age and was paid by them to spy on his family and HAMAS. those are facts. his motives and integrity are certainly open to question, as are what he claims are his motive to be. i very sincerely doubt if he would admit that money was involved or the prospect of seeking political asylum in america.
you however, seem to be willing to take the word of the worst kind of paid turncoat and traitor at his word and as promoted by a well known and thoroughly disreputable propaganda site, MEMRI, an organisation founded by an ex-israeli intelligence agent and largely staffed by, lo and behold, by israelis, jews, and many ex- israeli intelligence agents. my god, how could anybody ever question the even the remote possibility of bias in such an august group?
It was then that he concluded Islam as the main culprit and it's disastous effect on society and the mentality of people it infects with intolerance.
The State Dept didn't refute that he was a terrorist, they just didn't comment on it. His terrorist days are well documented.Thanks I'll take US State Dept over some bullshit blog you just got your info from.
I hope he washed his hands first?Roudy, you took the words right out of my mouth. THANKS
Roudy, you took the words right out of my mouth. THANKSNah, actually if you remove our head from Uranus you will realize that after he was released he still had not "switched over". It was only after the treatment he and his fellow recently released fellow Hamas members had gotten, that he realized that the Israelis are a million times better. It was then that he concluded by comparing the two, the Israelis a civilized society with laws and human rights, and Hamas, a bunch of lawless wild terrorists that do as they please to whomever they please with no repect for life, human rights, or anything.
It was then that he concluded Islam as the main culprit and it's disastous effect on society and the mentality of people it infects with intolerance.
No argument here.