Is an Opinion of the Supreme Court the ‘Law of the Land’? Let’s ask Thomas Jefferson. . .

[PaintMyHouse]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

That's because that is not a rational basis since no one even bothers to ask if a couple can even have children? Marriage is not about children, and never has been. They are a common enough byproduct but that's all...

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Denying a driver's license to a blind person is rationally based and pursues a proper legislative end – denying same-sex couples access to marriage law simply because they're gay is not rational, failing to pursue a proper legislative end.

There's also no Constitutional right to drive, there is a Constitutional right to marry.

Wrong. The rationale is in procreation, as natural and profound as eyesight.

 

[ogibillm]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

They do just fine without marriage these days. I have no idea why gay marriage would affect that, and neither does anyone else. That dog won't hunt.

 

[WinterBorn]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Because there is a very good reason for denying blind people a license to operate a motor vehicle. Because the states have standards that must be met for public safety. Surely you are not seriously asking this question.

Very seriously and logically.

Then I explained it. It has to do with teh standards for public safety. Nothing comparable can be said for banning gay marriage.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

That's because that is not a rational basis since no one even bothers to ask if a couple can even have children? Marriage is not about children, and never has been. They are a common enough byproduct but that's all...

They rationally assume they can or at least provide a natural facsimile of parents.

 

[WinterBorn]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Denying a driver's license to a blind person is rationally based and pursues a proper legislative end – denying same-sex couples access to marriage law simply because they're gay is not rational, failing to pursue a proper legislative end.

There's also no Constitutional right to drive, there is a Constitutional right to marry.

Wrong. The rationale is in procreation, as natural and profound as eyesight.

And procreation is not a basis for issuing a license to marry. Otherwise, no license would be issue to post menopausal women or to those who have had a hystorectomy. No marriage license states that children are a requirement. Most never even mention children.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

 

[WinterBorn]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

That's because that is not a rational basis since no one even bothers to ask if a couple can even have children? Marriage is not about children, and never has been. They are a common enough byproduct but that's all...

They rationally assume they can or at least provide a natural facsimile of parents.

No, they do not. If they assume that by having male and female genitalia, that they will be capable parents, then the standards are laughably low.

Show us a mention of procreation in any marriage license. I know it isn't in them all. But show me where one marriage license shows it is addressing procreation and not just the joining of the two people.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

Tell us, do unmarried fathers have the same rights as married fathers?

 

[WinterBorn]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

First you have to show that a marriage licenses addresses procreation. That remains to be seen.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Because there is a very good reason for denying blind people a license to operate a motor vehicle. Because the states have standards that must be met for public safety. Surely you are not seriously asking this question.

Very seriously and logically.

Then I explained it. It has to do with teh standards for public safety. Nothing comparable can be said for banning gay marriage.

Children lacking a parent are put at risk. Same thing. The point is that a natural limitation is legally acceptable in denying a drivers license the same can be applied for all licensing.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

Tell us, do unmarried fathers have the same rights as married fathers?

No.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

Again, as already correctly noted, the ability to have children is not a prerequisite to marry, as infertile opposite-sex couples are allowed to marry.

All of your arguments have been heard in open court – and all of your arguments have failed, devoid of merit, logic, and Constitutional case law in support.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Because there is a very good reason for denying blind people a license to operate a motor vehicle. Because the states have standards that must be met for public safety. Surely you are not seriously asking this question.

Very seriously and logically.

Then I explained it. It has to do with teh standards for public safety. Nothing comparable can be said for banning gay marriage.

Children lacking a parent are put at risk. Same thing. The point is that a natural limitation is legally acceptable in denying a drivers license the same can be applied for all licensing.

Pretty sure that even people with no junk, and no ability to speak, or even move their limbs, can still say "I do", since "I do and I promised to make babies soon" isn't actually part of the ceremony.

Your position was presented to courts BTW. They called it bullshit as well...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

Tell us, do unmarried fathers have the same rights as married fathers?

No.

Show us???

 

[WinterBorn]

The SCOTUS can not write law. But they CAN rule on the constitutionality of laws. And that is what they did. They ruled that the laws forbidding same sex marriage were unconstitutional. Without those laws, same sex marriage is legal.

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

Because there is a very good reason for denying blind people a license to operate a motor vehicle. Because the states have standards that must be met for public safety. Surely you are not seriously asking this question.

Very seriously and logically.

Then I explained it. It has to do with teh standards for public safety. Nothing comparable can be said for banning gay marriage.

Children lacking a parent are put at risk. Same thing. The point is that a natural limitation is legally acceptable in denying a drivers license the same can be applied for all licensing.

There MAY be a risk. A blind driver is a definite hazard. Not the same thing.

And a drivers license has written standards. Show me similar standards for a marriage license. The apply those standards to hetero couples who do not meet them. Then we will talk.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So how do states get away with denying drivers licences to blind people?

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

First you have to show that a marriage licenses addresses procreation. That remains to be seen.

Do drivers licences need to address blindness? No. Eyesight testing, yes. Blind are assumed to be unqualified. Problem with the anti-homo marriage crew is that they let the homofascists funnel the debate into religious realm.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

Tell us, do unmarried fathers have the same rights as married fathers?

No.

Show us???

Married filing jointly and health coverage through a spouse's employer.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They can present a rational basis for discrimination, and therefore get the courts to declare it legal. In this case no rational basis could be found, so the anti-gay marriage laws got tossed

The rational basis (procreation) was obfuscated and otherwise not presented at all.

in your mind people are less able to procreate if gay marriages are recognized by the government?

No need to grant homos coercive licence since they can't procreate or provide a facsimile of natural parents.

First you have to show that a marriage licenses addresses procreation. That remains to be seen.

Do drivers licences need to address blindness? No. Eyesight testing, yes. Blind are assumed to be unqualified. Problem with the anti-homo marriage crew is that they let the homofascists funnel the debate into religious realm.

Since their basic position was we hate faggots, the Bible says to, that wasn't a stretch...