CDZ Is America the greatest nation on Earth?

[Pogo]

there is no comparison between what the British did and what we did.....

There certainly is, if the question is when each one abolished slavery. In Britain's case it was 1833, for France it was 1848. For us it was 1865.

Who ended World War 2..

That would be the USSR, mainly.

 

[2aguy]

This is the greatest country in the world....we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

Actually we were slackers on that front too. Most of Europe and half of Latin America had already abolished it before we did.

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

And all meaningless...............they transported slaves...they did not have slaves in their own countries......and guess what...we abolished the slave trade with Africa the same month Britain did.....but we still had millions of slaves in our country...

Of the two Countries....and all the others.....we had the biggest hall to actually end slavery........

Again...America is the Greatest country in the world........


Slave Trade Act 1807 - Wikipedia

Britain used its international strength to put pressure on other nations to end their own slave trade.[7] The United States acted to abolish its Atlantic slave trade the same month on 2 March (but not its internal slave trade). Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution forbade the closing of the slave trade for twenty years, until 1808.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is the greatest country in the world....we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

Actually we were slackers on that front too. Most of Europe and half of Latin America had already abolished it before we did.

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

 

[Pogo]

Actually we were slackers on that front too. Most of Europe and half of Latin America had already abolished it before we did.

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

OK I tried it. Didn't work. Because it had already been done 177 years earlier.

 

[2aguy]

there is no comparison between what the British did and what we did.....

There certainly is, if the question is when each one abolished slavery. In Britain's case it was 1833, for France it was 1848. For us it was 1865.

Who ended World War 2..

That would be the USSR, mainly.

No...the U.S.S.R. didn't win the war...the United States did...if we had not resupplied the Soviets, and invaded Europe and Africa, Russia would be in German hands today.....Stalin screwed up completely...and only our intervention in the war saved them....you can try your best rewriting of history Good Will Hunting...but it ain't the truth...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

OK I tried it. Didn't work. Because it had already been done 177 years earlier.

Not on the Island.... That didn't happen till 2010


.

 

[2aguy]

Actually we were slackers on that front too. Most of Europe and half of Latin America had already abolished it before we did.

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

This just came to me today, after years of seeing these left wingers constantly use slavery and Britain to attack the U.S.....

 

[Pogo]

there is no comparison between what the British did and what we did.....

There certainly is, if the question is when each one abolished slavery. In Britain's case it was 1833, for France it was 1848. For us it was 1865.

Who ended World War 2..

That would be the USSR, mainly.

No...the U.S.S.R. didn't win the war...the United States did...if we had not resupplied the Soviets, and invaded Europe and Africa, Russia would be in German hands today.....Stalin screwed up completely...and only our intervention in the war saved them....you can try your best rewriting of history Good Will Hunting...but it ain't the truth...

It was a team effort, but no nation put more into it than the USSR. By far.

That's the history, like it or lump it.

 

[2aguy]

there is no comparison between what the British did and what we did.....

There certainly is, if the question is when each one abolished slavery. In Britain's case it was 1833, for France it was 1848. For us it was 1865.

Who ended World War 2..

That would be the USSR, mainly.

No...the U.S.S.R. didn't win the war...the United States did...if we had not resupplied the Soviets, and invaded Europe and Africa, Russia would be in German hands today.....Stalin screwed up completely...and only our intervention in the war saved them....you can try your best rewriting of history Good Will Hunting...but it ain't the truth...

It was a team effort, but no nation put more into it than the USSR. By far.

Because they kept screwing up....they lost huge because they were incompetent and evil.......and if the United States hadn't been in the war the Soviet Union would be part of Germany now.........The United States allowed the Soviets to survive long enough for the German's to be defeated........you can't hide that fact or make up things about the Soviets that just aren't true...no matter what that book by that left wing historian tries to say....

 

[Pogo]

Sorry.......Europe and Africa brought the African slaves here....they did not bring African slaves to Europe...they did not have millions of slaves in their countries and a region of their countries dedicated to perpetuating slavery...we did...and we ended it with combat.......

The British...all they did was end the transport of slaves on their ships and they patrolled the seas......had they had an actual slave class the way we did it would have taken them far longer......

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

If that's not an entrenched slave culture, perhaps you can tell us why blacks in Haiti speak French, and on the other side of the island in the DR, Spanish. Or why Brazilian ones speak Portuguese, or those in the ABC islands speak Papiamento. And of course here, and in Jamaica, and Guyana and Belize etc -- English.

 

[2aguy]

I didn't mention who BROUGHT the slaves here, nor did you. You brought up 'freeing people from slavery".

We did not exist as a country when the transport of African slaves started 485 years ago. That was all Europeans. But your point was about freeing them.

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

 

[Pogo]

Yes.....we actually freed slaves in our country....Britain ended the transport of slaves......big difference.

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

 

[2aguy]

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

Yes.....they passed a law ending the transport of slaves and in their colonies...not one of them had millions of African slaves in their actual countries...they had no skin in the game ..........from across the world they passed a law without having to deal with any consequences...how brave of them......

 

[Wyatt earp]

The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833. We did it 32 years later.

The bigger chronology:

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.
- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation
- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1865 - US passes 13th Amendment abolishing slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery​

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?



Try 2010


.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?


.

 

[Pogo]

What your time line forget when Great Britain officially abolished slavery?

Try 2010

.

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected. Hence the timeline, because clearly we did less than most --- not "more". That was a myth bust.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four scrore and seven years.

 

[2aguy]

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four scrore and seven years.

And then the Founding Principals were supported and promoted and slavery was ended...by the Republican party....

 

[Pogo]

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four scrore and seven years.

And then the Founding Principals were supported and promoted and slavery was ended...by the Republican party....

--- and there it is, post 14 confirmed all over again.

 

[Wyatt earp]

All of those European countries....all they did was end transport of slaves on their ships.....whoop tee doo.......none of them had an entrenched slave culture...which they freaking created over here...that they had to deal with........

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected. Hence the timeline, because clearly we did less than most --- not "more". That was a myth bust.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four scrore and seven years.

Still haging on desperately to that myth that the founding fathers were Lefty's huh?


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[Pogo]

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and even Holland and Denmark (and the Denmark-Norway union) ALL had colonies in the Americas, where slave labor was used. That's why they all appear on my chronology listed above.

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected. Hence the timeline, because clearly we did less than most --- not "more". That was a myth bust.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four score and seven years.

Still haging on desperately to that myth that the founding fathers were Lefty's huh?


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I've never claimed they were "leftys" or even "lefties". Ever.

I've always said they were Liberals. Which is true.

 

[Wyatt earp]

And that dried up when they stopped transporting slaves.........you can try to deny it all you want...none of those countries had the same problem with slavery that we had...because of those very countries...they did not put African slaves in their own countries, they did not have millions of slaves and an entrenched slave owning culture.....

They passed laws that stopped the sale and transport of slaves...whoop tee do.......

So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.

So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?

Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:

we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...

So that got corrected. Hence the timeline, because clearly we did less than most --- not "more". That was a myth bust.

Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four score and seven years.

Still haging on desperately to that myth that the founding fathers were Lefty's huh?


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I've never claimed they were "leftys" or even "lefties". Ever.

I've always said they were Liberals. Which is true.

Not in today's definition and that's what you cling too.





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