Is America A Christian Nation?

[danielpalos]

Christopher Hitchens was a guest on Hardball tonight along with Kenneth Blackwell, from the Family Research Council, to discuss Newsweek's recent cover story titled "The End of Christian America." The story highlighted a poll showing that while 62 percent of Americans considered the U.S. a Christian nation, a staggering 68 percent say religion is losing its influence on American life.

Hitchens debated Blackwell about this, with Hitchens declaring a crisis of faith in the country, one that shows a decisive tide is turning against the forces of religion. Blackwell disputed this, arguing that the influence of religion ebbs and flows but won't ever really fade away because we are fundamentally a Christian nation going all the way to the Founding Fathers. Hitchens vehemently fought back against this notion.

As usual with Hitchens, the debate was heated and interesting. Watch it below.

Christopher Hitchens Debates Kenneth Blackwell About Religious Influence In America (VIDEO)

Christopher Hitchens took Ken Blackwell to school last night. He made the religious right look stupid.

We can't be a true Christian nation if we have "under God" in our pledge and are not taxing the Rich into Heaven.

 

[sealybobo]

The rich have always waged class warfare on us.

Hiring illegals
Buying politicians and have them pass tax laws that benefit the rich but hurt us
Sending jobs overseas.
Buying shit from nafta
Cutting social programs
Reneging on pensions
Breaking unions.

You seem to ignore the war that’s going on. In fact you bend over and take it.

Oh wait I forgot you claim to be rich. So you deny because it benefits you.

I don't claim to be rich. I did well because I did the right things the right way for the right reasons.

And you are proving my point too. You are literally arguing that you wage class warfare because they did it first. The problem is there is no they. Corporations and government did all those things. You attack "rich" people, Whatever that means. If you want to blame anyone, blame your brother. He's a corporate executive, right?

You're a socialist shill, dude. Own it.

Ultimately I blame the masses for either not showing up to vote or for voting republican.

Hey, I made about $100k last year and have no debt and no kids.

If you saw my life you would say dude you’re a republican. Yes I live like one. Don’t spend more than you have. Work hard. Save. Don’t count on social security or Medicare

I’m just socially liberal and I’m not a socialist except for schools and healthcare for all and I understand the value of unions.

I would be making $60k right now if it weren’t for 1 good President. He gave me a big raise. He was very liberal.

And my brother has insisted on giving people raises when most of the other HR execs were laughing how they pay below industry standard to good employees they knew weren’t going anywhere.

I don't blame anyone because I don't have an external locus of control.

It seems you equate being moral with being liberal.

No I actually know the guys politics. I never talked politics at work but I was thrilled to learn the Guy was a liberal democrat who felt the same way I did about republicans

Interesting though the first President was also a social liberal but gave me a pathetic raise. He figured I’d be happy with a $5k raise and I was but with how much I made him it was ridiculous. The next president knew I felt that way because I told him so he gave me a big raise.

Funny thing is I wouldn’t have quit even if I was only making $60k. Too good of a job. Easy and close to home. But I’m glad I’m being paid what I’m worth.

I sold 1.8 mill. We made clear at least $700,000. I’m worth $100k wouldn’t you say? Before me they sold $600,000 a year. Probably made $200,000 on it. I’m making the owner $500,000 more a year.

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

 

[ding]

I don't claim to be rich. I did well because I did the right things the right way for the right reasons.

And you are proving my point too. You are literally arguing that you wage class warfare because they did it first. The problem is there is no they. Corporations and government did all those things. You attack "rich" people, Whatever that means. If you want to blame anyone, blame your brother. He's a corporate executive, right?

You're a socialist shill, dude. Own it.

Ultimately I blame the masses for either not showing up to vote or for voting republican.

Hey, I made about $100k last year and have no debt and no kids.

If you saw my life you would say dude you’re a republican. Yes I live like one. Don’t spend more than you have. Work hard. Save. Don’t count on social security or Medicare

I’m just socially liberal and I’m not a socialist except for schools and healthcare for all and I understand the value of unions.

I would be making $60k right now if it weren’t for 1 good President. He gave me a big raise. He was very liberal.

And my brother has insisted on giving people raises when most of the other HR execs were laughing how they pay below industry standard to good employees they knew weren’t going anywhere.

I don't blame anyone because I don't have an external locus of control.

It seems you equate being moral with being liberal.

No I actually know the guys politics. I never talked politics at work but I was thrilled to learn the Guy was a liberal democrat who felt the same way I did about republicans

Interesting though the first President was also a social liberal but gave me a pathetic raise. He figured I’d be happy with a $5k raise and I was but with how much I made him it was ridiculous. The next president knew I felt that way because I told him so he gave me a big raise.

Funny thing is I wouldn’t have quit even if I was only making $60k. Too good of a job. Easy and close to home. But I’m glad I’m being paid what I’m worth.

I sold 1.8 mill. We made clear at least $700,000. I’m worth $100k wouldn’t you say? Before me they sold $600,000 a year. Probably made $200,000 on it. I’m making the owner $500,000 more a year.

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

So your opinion of them was based on how much money they gave you?

 

[sealybobo]

Ultimately I blame the masses for either not showing up to vote or for voting republican.

Hey, I made about $100k last year and have no debt and no kids.

If you saw my life you would say dude you’re a republican. Yes I live like one. Don’t spend more than you have. Work hard. Save. Don’t count on social security or Medicare

I’m just socially liberal and I’m not a socialist except for schools and healthcare for all and I understand the value of unions.

I would be making $60k right now if it weren’t for 1 good President. He gave me a big raise. He was very liberal.

And my brother has insisted on giving people raises when most of the other HR execs were laughing how they pay below industry standard to good employees they knew weren’t going anywhere.

I don't blame anyone because I don't have an external locus of control.

It seems you equate being moral with being liberal.

No I actually know the guys politics. I never talked politics at work but I was thrilled to learn the Guy was a liberal democrat who felt the same way I did about republicans

Interesting though the first President was also a social liberal but gave me a pathetic raise. He figured I’d be happy with a $5k raise and I was but with how much I made him it was ridiculous. The next president knew I felt that way because I told him so he gave me a big raise.

Funny thing is I wouldn’t have quit even if I was only making $60k. Too good of a job. Easy and close to home. But I’m glad I’m being paid what I’m worth.

I sold 1.8 mill. We made clear at least $700,000. I’m worth $100k wouldn’t you say? Before me they sold $600,000 a year. Probably made $200,000 on it. I’m making the owner $500,000 more a year.

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

So your opinion of them was based on how much money they gave you?

Whatever,

Back to are we a Christian nation. Many people are converting to atheism or agnosticism and Muslims are breeding and immigrating here.

At what point will we officially be a Muslim nation?

 

[Meriweather]

Whatever,

Back to are we a Christian nation. Many people are converting to atheism or agnosticism and Muslims are breeding and immigrating here.

At what point will we officially be a Muslim nation?

Perhaps we could agree upon being a godly nation?

 

[ding]

I don't blame anyone because I don't have an external locus of control.

It seems you equate being moral with being liberal.

No I actually know the guys politics. I never talked politics at work but I was thrilled to learn the Guy was a liberal democrat who felt the same way I did about republicans

Interesting though the first President was also a social liberal but gave me a pathetic raise. He figured I’d be happy with a $5k raise and I was but with how much I made him it was ridiculous. The next president knew I felt that way because I told him so he gave me a big raise.

Funny thing is I wouldn’t have quit even if I was only making $60k. Too good of a job. Easy and close to home. But I’m glad I’m being paid what I’m worth.

I sold 1.8 mill. We made clear at least $700,000. I’m worth $100k wouldn’t you say? Before me they sold $600,000 a year. Probably made $200,000 on it. I’m making the owner $500,000 more a year.

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

So your opinion of them was based on how much money they gave you?

Whatever,

Back to are we a Christian nation. Many people are converting to atheism or agnosticism and Muslims are breeding and immigrating here.

At what point will we officially be a Muslim nation?

No. Many are not. That’s wishful thinking. Man is overwhelmingly spiritual because man is a spiritual being.

 

[sealybobo]

No I actually know the guys politics. I never talked politics at work but I was thrilled to learn the Guy was a liberal democrat who felt the same way I did about republicans

Interesting though the first President was also a social liberal but gave me a pathetic raise. He figured I’d be happy with a $5k raise and I was but with how much I made him it was ridiculous. The next president knew I felt that way because I told him so he gave me a big raise.

Funny thing is I wouldn’t have quit even if I was only making $60k. Too good of a job. Easy and close to home. But I’m glad I’m being paid what I’m worth.

I sold 1.8 mill. We made clear at least $700,000. I’m worth $100k wouldn’t you say? Before me they sold $600,000 a year. Probably made $200,000 on it. I’m making the owner $500,000 more a year.

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

So your opinion of them was based on how much money they gave you?

Whatever,

Back to are we a Christian nation. Many people are converting to atheism or agnosticism and Muslims are breeding and immigrating here.

At what point will we officially be a Muslim nation?

No. Many are not. That’s wishful thinking. Man is overwhelmingly spiritual because man is a spiritual being.

What happens to your spirit after you die?

Spiritual is synonymous with religious. Some of us aren’t spiritual or religious.

 

[BreezeWood]

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all beings are spiritual, the 4th century christian bible is as sterile as it is phony.

physiology is a metaphysical substance not native to planet Earth and disappears when its spiritual component is removed.

 

[ding]

Well there you have it. A statistically valid evaluation of one person which confirms your biases.

I just told you I had 2 liberal bosses one was cheap (immoral) and the other one wasn't (moral)

So your opinion of them was based on how much money they gave you?

Whatever,

Back to are we a Christian nation. Many people are converting to atheism or agnosticism and Muslims are breeding and immigrating here.

At what point will we officially be a Muslim nation?

No. Many are not. That’s wishful thinking. Man is overwhelmingly spiritual because man is a spiritual being.

What happens to your spirit after you die?

Spiritual is synonymous with religious. Some of us aren’t spiritual or religious.

We’ll find out.