Zone1 Is Abortion Murder?

A baby has to be born. I believe Thou shalt not kill extends to the fetus.

You can't force a child to give birth or kill a woman who unwillingly wants to die for her baby. She should want to, but you can't just force her to make that decision but you absolutely have to be sure that that is truly the case before aborting the baby.
 
I don't get the Liberals. One minute they're saying that abortion is all about women's rights and the next minute it's about the right to murder your baby. So which is it?
No, it's not murder. Obviously
 
You can't force a child to give birth or kill a woman who unwillingly wants to die for her baby. She should want to, but you can't just force her to make that decision but you absolutely have to be sure that that is truly the case before aborting the baby.
Having a baby is not the easiest thing to do.
 
I don't get the Liberals. One minute they're saying that abortion is all about women's rights and the next minute it's about the right to murder your baby. So which is it?
In the Bible, King David said something like "Before my mother knew I was in her womb, God knew I was there."

That known, I have no choice but to feel that aborting a child God knows is there super- cedes the selfish idea that abortion is, and yes, killing one of God's innocent children is nothing less than murdering a human being.
 
In the Bible, King David said something like "Before my mother knew I was in her womb, God knew I was there."

That known, I have no choice but to feel that aborting a child God knows is there super- cedes the selfish idea that abortion is, and yes, killing one of God's innocent children is nothing less than murdering a human being.


So do you believe in exceptions or no exceptions?
 
Only if there are twelve arms where the eyes ought to be which could raise eyebrows in scientific college and hospital DNA labs.

I believe in the same exceptions like Trump does. Rape, incest, and the life of the mother.
 
I don't get the Liberals. One minute they're saying that abortion is all about women's rights and the next minute it's about the right to murder your baby. So which is it?
In God’s eyes yes.

He commanded us “Thou shalt not kill”.

There are plenty of passages in the Bible that show God recognizes us as persons when we are in the womb. Even to Jeremiah he said he knew him as his prophet before he was conceived.

𝐉𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐢𝐚𝐡 𝟏:𝟒-𝟓
Now the word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.


𝐏𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐦 𝟏𝟑𝟗:𝟏𝟑-𝟏𝟔
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.


And of course we have the testimony of Mary meeting Elizabeth, both pregnant:
𝐋𝐮𝐤𝐞 𝟏:𝟑𝟗-𝟒𝟓
In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a town in Judah, and she entered the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth. And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. And blessed is she who believed that there would beg a fulfillment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.”


The biggest lie of our generation is that abortion is not murder in the eyes of God, and that it is a “woman’s right”.
 
The biggest lie of our generation is that abortion is not murder in the eyes of God, and that it is a “woman’s right”.

Well then it most definitely is and that's when most abortions take place. Though I still believe in those exceptions.
 
You can't force a child to give birth or kill a woman who unwillingly wants to die for her baby. She should want to, but you can't just force her to make that decision but you absolutely have to be sure that that is truly the case before aborting the baby.
If we give the mother the right to opt out of motherhood, should we give the right to the man to opt out of fatherhood and not pay maintenance?

What reproductive rights does a man have?
 

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