Is a second american revolution now inevitable?

[Samson]

And there aren't any other ways to reconcile our differences, is there?


Have you ever heard of voting? e?

Yes.

In the USA we do not vote for issues.

We vote for representatives that will care about the issues.

Today there is one representative for 700,000 US citizens. Ignoring significant numbers of constituents is inevitable. When people are powerless they rise up against "oppression."

This will be inevitable unless the government decreases the ratio of reps to constituents.

 

[Rotagilla]

Would you kindly point out the valid, realistic points that Boss calmly made in the selection you quoted.

Whatever you disagree with, essentially.

Every one of his posts on this thread have been well presented....unlike the name calling, ad homs and hyperpartisan nonsense his opponents have used.

Come on. I was hoping you would show me the calmness in his post that you quoted. I thought his words were fairly angry in nature. You saw calm....I saw anger. How can that be?

People see things differently, don't they?
Those that disagree are so frustrated/immature that they resort to name calling and pejoratives. Young "theoreticians" with very little real life experience always think they are smarter than everyone else.

I think the man has made a lot of valid points and his assessments are realistic, using history as a guide.

 

[KNB]

Why would you want to overthrow the rich? Who the **** do you think is running the big oppressive Marxist government?

Marxist totalitarians.

I don't have a problem with the rich. I hope to be among them someday. If I can keep my free market capitalist country out of the hands of idiots and morons like you, perhaps I can get there....

...I do believe that at some point, some lead is going to have to be eaten by morons like you because you just don't get it. You don't comprehend democracy, you don't seem to want to cooperate with your fellow man, you refuse to work with anyone, and you believe you're the only one who can be right about anything.

I think it's clear you're dealing with young, naive, indoctrinated hyperpartisans.
You can't have a reasonable discussion with kids who already know everything.

Anything outside of what they've seen on government approved television is hard for them to grasp.

You calmly made valid, realistic points. It drives them crazy.

I can't argue with retard.

Why would you want to overthrow the rich? Who the **** do you think is running the big oppressive Marxist government?

Marxist totalitarians.

Marxists are making rich people richer? So rich people are Marxists? Yeah, you're ******* retarded. That's a really "valid, realistic point", dinglecheese.

Do you know what democracy is? Are you willing to work with your fellow Americans? You're advocating for another civil war. "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you're a low-info liberal! DURRRRR!"

Killing anyone who isn't like you so that you can get your way. I'm not advocating that. This is what I advocate:

You'd better start your victory gardens now so that when the government closes the ports and cuts off your revolutionary supplies at Wal-Mart, you'll still be able to clothe and feed your soldiers.

And if we legalize "Marihuana" again, the shift in global raw materials will rearrange the entire world market in favor of the working poor, crippling the wealthy "Marxist" industrialists who currently control our government and economy.

Redistribution of wealth away from the oligarchy back to normal people like you and me, through the free market. This is Capitalism, not Marxism. Cannabis was legal in the US for over 200 years and we were never a Communist country. Cannabis was legalized during World War II and we didn't become Communist or Marxist or Socialist, so nothing like that will happen now.

We the People will be able to sustainably provide for America in defense of democracy and Capitalism, just like We the People did during World War II.

 

[Rotagilla]

Marxist totalitarians.

I don't have a problem with the rich. I hope to be among them someday. If I can keep my free market capitalist country out of the hands of idiots and morons like you, perhaps I can get there....

...I do believe that at some point, some lead is going to have to be eaten by morons like you because you just don't get it. You don't comprehend democracy, you don't seem to want to cooperate with your fellow man, you refuse to work with anyone, and you believe you're the only one who can be right about anything.

I think it's clear you're dealing with young, naive, indoctrinated hyperpartisans.
You can't have a reasonable discussion with kids who already know everything.

Anything outside of what they've seen on government approved television is hard for them to grasp.

You calmly made valid, realistic points. It drives them crazy.

I can't argue with retard.

Why would you want to overthrow the rich? Who the **** do you think is running the big oppressive Marxist government?

Marxist totalitarians.

Marxists are making rich people richer? So rich people are Marxists? Yeah, you're ******* retarded. That's a really "valid, realistic point", dinglecheese.

Do you know what democracy is? Are you willing to work with your fellow Americans? You're advocating for another civil war. "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you're a low-info liberal! DURRRRR!"

Killing anyone who isn't like you so that you can get your way. I'm not advocating that. This is what I advocate:

You'd better start your victory gardens now so that when the government closes the ports and cuts off your revolutionary supplies at Wal-Mart, you'll still be able to clothe and feed your soldiers.

And if we legalize "Marihuana" again, the shift in global raw materials will rearrange the entire world market in favor of the working poor, crippling the wealthy "Marxist" industrialists who currently control our government and economy.

Redistribution of wealth away from the oligarchy back to normal people like you and me, through the free market. This is Capitalism, not Marxism. Cannabis was legal in the US for over 200 years and we were never a Communist country. Cannabis was legalized during World War II and we didn't become Communist or Marxist or Socialist, so nothing like that will happen now.

We the People will be able to sustainably provide for America in defense of democracy and Capitalism, just like We the People did during World War II.

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I think it's clear you're dealing with young, naive, indoctrinated hyperpartisans.
You can't have a reasonable discussion with kids who already know everything.

Anything outside of what they've seen on government approved television is hard for them to grasp.

You calmly made valid, realistic points. It drives them crazy.

I can't argue with retard.

Marxist totalitarians.

Marxists are making rich people richer? So rich people are Marxists? Yeah, you're ******* retarded. That's a really "valid, realistic point", dinglecheese.

Do you know what democracy is? Are you willing to work with your fellow Americans? You're advocating for another civil war. "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you're a low-info liberal! DURRRRR!"

Killing anyone who isn't like you so that you can get your way. I'm not advocating that. This is what I advocate:

You'd better start your victory gardens now so that when the government closes the ports and cuts off your revolutionary supplies at Wal-Mart, you'll still be able to clothe and feed your soldiers.

And if we legalize "Marihuana" again, the shift in global raw materials will rearrange the entire world market in favor of the working poor, crippling the wealthy "Marxist" industrialists who currently control our government and economy.

Redistribution of wealth away from the oligarchy back to normal people like you and me, through the free market. This is Capitalism, not Marxism. Cannabis was legal in the US for over 200 years and we were never a Communist country. Cannabis was legalized during World War II and we didn't become Communist or Marxist or Socialist, so nothing like that will happen now.

We the People will be able to sustainably provide for America in defense of democracy and Capitalism, just like We the People did during World War II.

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

You seem to have missed all of Boss' name calling and vitriol. Or....are we reading different posts?

 

[Rotagilla]

I can't argue with retard.


Marxists are making rich people richer? So rich people are Marxists? Yeah, you're ******* retarded. That's a really "valid, realistic point", dinglecheese.

Do you know what democracy is? Are you willing to work with your fellow Americans? You're advocating for another civil war. "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you're a low-info liberal! DURRRRR!"

Killing anyone who isn't like you so that you can get your way. I'm not advocating that. This is what I advocate:

You'd better start your victory gardens now so that when the government closes the ports and cuts off your revolutionary supplies at Wal-Mart, you'll still be able to clothe and feed your soldiers.

And if we legalize "Marihuana" again, the shift in global raw materials will rearrange the entire world market in favor of the working poor, crippling the wealthy "Marxist" industrialists who currently control our government and economy.

Redistribution of wealth away from the oligarchy back to normal people like you and me, through the free market. This is Capitalism, not Marxism. Cannabis was legal in the US for over 200 years and we were never a Communist country. Cannabis was legalized during World War II and we didn't become Communist or Marxist or Socialist, so nothing like that will happen now.

We the People will be able to sustainably provide for America in defense of democracy and Capitalism, just like We the People did during World War II.

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

You seem to have missed all of Boss' name calling and vitriol. Or....are we reading different posts?

Maybe so. I started at post #19.

I thought that was well presented, coherent and realistic.
That's the typical course of a revolution. They have been happening for thousands of years. No big deal.
It's the natural course of all governments. They eventually become too corrupt and oppressive and they get taken down. Happens all the time.

Which posts are you referring to? Maybe I missed a couple?

 

[KNB]

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

And anyone who says, "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you just don't get it" is a ******* scholar, right?

Why do you want to kill Americans?

Can you see this?:

Do you know where this image comes from? Hemp For Victory, USDA, 1942. For defending Democracy, Capitalism, and Freedom.

Instead of this, you want to kill your fellow Americans. And I'm the one who loses credibility? Yeah, we see who's willing to compromise here.

 

[Rotagilla]

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

And anyone who says, "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you just don't get it" is a ******* scholar, right?

Why do you want to kill Americans?

Can you see this?:

Do you know where this image comes from? Hemp For Victory, USDA, 1942. For defending Democracy, Capitalism, and Freedom.

Instead of this, you want to kill your fellow Americans. And I'm the one who loses credibility? Yeah, we see who's willing to compromise here.

Link to the quote you referenced about eating lead? It's early. Maybe I missed it?
I HAVE seen a lot of hyperpartisan name calling and wild exaggeration...it's all contrived so they can squeeze in some more name calling...as if name calling wins the debate..LMAO..

Yeah. I've seem the marijuana tax stamp for two days now. I already read your position. I don't think it will save the country.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Right isn't going to start a revolution. The sum total of their effort will continue to be a lot of nonsensical big talk and chest beating,

with the occasional cop killing, or abortion clinic bombing, etc., thrown in.

 

[Rotagilla]

The Right isn't going to start a revolution. The sum total of their effort will continue to be a lot of nonsensical big talk and chest beating,

with the occasional cop killing, or abortion clinic bombing, etc., thrown in.

 

[KNB]

sure, kid..whatever you say.

LMAO...anyone who uses "durrr" as a word has already abandoned credibility by acting like a child.

And anyone who says, "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you just don't get it" is a ******* scholar, right?

Why do you want to kill Americans?

Can you see this?:

Do you know where this image comes from? Hemp For Victory, USDA, 1942. For defending Democracy, Capitalism, and Freedom.

Instead of this, you want to kill your fellow Americans. And I'm the one who loses credibility? Yeah, we see who's willing to compromise here.

Link to the quote you referenced about eating lead? It's early. Maybe I missed it?
I HAVE seen a lot of hyperpartisan name calling and wild exaggeration...it's all contrived so they can squeeze in some more name calling...as if name calling wins the debate..LMAO..

Yeah. I've seem the marijuana tax stamp for two days now. I already read your position. I don't think it will save the country.

You want a link to this page? His quote is in a post on this page that you quoted. So you can't read, but you're just so sure that marijuana won't do anything to change the world?

It's too bad that you can't read because if you could, I would point you to these international government and university reports which explain how marijuana legalization will change the world.

Vote Hemp: Why Hemp?: New Billion-Dollar Crop
The feasibility of converting Cannabis sat... [Bioresour Technol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32725.pdf
http://evanmills.lbl.gov/pubs/pdf/cannabis-carbon-footprint.pdf
http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/...and_Opportunities_in_Cannabis_Cultivation.pdf
Attempted ignition of petrol vapour by lit cigar... [Sci Justice. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
http://pub.epsilon.slu.se/8415/1/prade_t_111102.pdf
UConn Biofuel Consortium
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/59909/676695681.pdf?...1
https://lup.lub.lu.se/search/publication/1868648
http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2856430&fileOId=2857088
Effect of harvest date on combustion related fuel properties of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - Fuel - Tom 102, Numer Complete (2012) - Biblioteka Nauki - Yadda
https://www.uky.edu/Ag/AgEcon/pubs/res_other/hemp98.pdf
Hemp: A New Crop with New Uses for North America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/EvergreenEnergy/kforbin.pdf
Industrial Hemp - Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNGePT2nLRH82rx6h817DYxZ6v-J3A&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...uIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNFqhjiy8F4VRqHnZ08t7CZFDqLgXQ
Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) - National Cancer Institute
Feasibility of Industrial Hemp Production in the United States Pacific Northwest, SB681
http://www.votehemp.com/PDF/Hemp-Feasability-UofA.pdf
http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CCD/introsheets/hempproduction.pdf
http://terraforms.org/documents/SAHempFeasiblityReport2002.pdf
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGgQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ers.usda.gov%2FersDownloadHandler.ashx%3Ffile%3D%2Fmedia%2F328242%2Fages001el_1_.pdf&ei=kqTyUpvrFsTboATuiIDIDw&usg=AFQjCNGJ4fLIZrNEYpN3z2N1Qm3-hfetuw&bvm=bv.60799247,d.cGU&cad=rja
https://ortus.rtu.lv/science/en/publications/14299-Feasibility+of+Reinforcing+Birch+Plywood+with+Hemp+Fibres
http://gse.cat.org.uk/public_downloads/research/hemp/building_with_hemp_and_lime.pdf
Eco Elise | Lotus Cars
Canada's legal hemp industry growing - Business - CBC News

Marijuana Timeline | Busted - America's War On Marijuana | FRONTLINE | PBS

H.R.1635 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): National Commission on Federal Marijuana Policy Act of 2013 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

 

[The2ndAmendment]

No revolution (spiritual or otherwise) will or is taking place in America. Most realize we have it too good. The vocal minority will continue to get more vocal but when push comes to shove, they'll be left alone to "fight" by those more level-headed than themselves. And when they realize they are all alone...they will go back to their keyboards and try to stir up more hate.

Tale as old as time....
Tune as old as song...

That's what the greeks said.
That's what the romans said.
That's what the french said.
That's what the russians said.
That's what the british said.
etc...etc...etc...

History is littered with the wreckage of governments that said "no revolution will or is taking place."

It's also what the Egyptians recently said...

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Don't even pretend you are part of "country boys can survive" nonsense.

There will be no apocalypse.

If the loonies on the far right rise up, there will be no arrest and trials, I think, only summary execution of the far right terrorists who are caught with weapons.

I wish you felt the same about deserting terrorists like Bergdahl

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Remember Operation American Spring? No, no one does because it was a stupid idea.

No I don't. It seems only lefties ever knew what American Spring was and is. I wouldn't doubt if it was a site erected by leftie think tanks for the very purpose of doing nothing.

Basically, a left-wing organization right now could create another " Great Right Wing Militia Event" and pay good money to advertise it, and then not do anything to actually organize it, and then spam the leftist controlled media that a Right Wing Militia Event failed.

lolololol

 

[KNB]

"Deserting terrorists" like Bergdahl, not like the brave Constitution-loving patriots who want to kill Americans in a second civil war.

 

[Rotagilla]

And anyone who says, "People like you are going to have to eat lead because you just don't get it" is a ******* scholar, right?

Why do you want to kill Americans?

Can you see this?:

Do you know where this image comes from? Hemp For Victory, USDA, 1942. For defending Democracy, Capitalism, and Freedom.

Instead of this, you want to kill your fellow Americans. And I'm the one who loses credibility? Yeah, we see who's willing to compromise here.

Link to the quote you referenced about eating lead? It's early. Maybe I missed it?
I HAVE seen a lot of hyperpartisan name calling and wild exaggeration...it's all contrived so they can squeeze in some more name calling...as if name calling wins the debate..LMAO..

Yeah. I've seem the marijuana tax stamp for two days now. I already read your position. I don't think it will save the country.

You want a link to this page? His quote is in a post on this page that you quoted. So you can't read, but you're just so sure that marijuana won't do anything to change the world?

It's too bad that you can't read because if you could, I would point you to these international government and university reports which explain how marijuana legalization will change the world.

Vote Hemp: Why Hemp?: New Billion-Dollar Crop
The feasibility of converting Cannabis sat... [Bioresour Technol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32725.pdf
http://evanmills.lbl.gov/pubs/pdf/cannabis-carbon-footprint.pdf
http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/...and_Opportunities_in_Cannabis_Cultivation.pdf
Attempted ignition of petrol vapour by lit cigar... [Sci Justice. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
http://pub.epsilon.slu.se/8415/1/prade_t_111102.pdf
UConn Biofuel Consortium
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/59909/676695681.pdf?...1
https://lup.lub.lu.se/search/publication/1868648
http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2856430&fileOId=2857088
Effect of harvest date on combustion related fuel properties of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - Fuel - Tom 102, Numer Complete (2012) - Biblioteka Nauki - Yadda
https://www.uky.edu/Ag/AgEcon/pubs/res_other/hemp98.pdf
Hemp: A New Crop with New Uses for North America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/EvergreenEnergy/kforbin.pdf
Industrial Hemp - Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNGePT2nLRH82rx6h817DYxZ6v-J3A&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...uIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNFqhjiy8F4VRqHnZ08t7CZFDqLgXQ
Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) - National Cancer Institute
Feasibility of Industrial Hemp Production in the United States Pacific Northwest, SB681
http://www.votehemp.com/PDF/Hemp-Feasability-UofA.pdf
http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CCD/introsheets/hempproduction.pdf
http://terraforms.org/documents/SAHempFeasiblityReport2002.pdf
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGgQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ers.usda.gov%2FersDownloadHandler.ashx%3Ffile%3D%2Fmedia%2F328242%2Fages001el_1_.pdf&ei=kqTyUpvrFsTboATuiIDIDw&usg=AFQjCNGJ4fLIZrNEYpN3z2N1Qm3-hfetuw&bvm=bv.60799247,d.cGU&cad=rja
https://ortus.rtu.lv/science/en/publications/14299-Feasibility+of+Reinforcing+Birch+Plywood+with+Hemp+Fibres
http://gse.cat.org.uk/public_downloads/research/hemp/building_with_hemp_and_lime.pdf
Eco Elise | Lotus Cars
Canada's legal hemp industry growing - Business - CBC News

Marijuana Timeline | Busted - America's War On Marijuana | FRONTLINE | PBS

H.R.1635 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): National Commission on Federal Marijuana Policy Act of 2013 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Ok. I see the quote now. He should have worded it differently to avoid distractions like this, but in revolutions people get killed. It's a fact.

Thanks for all the links, but your smart alec, condescending tone about me being unable to read, disinclines me to "read" any of your distractions.
As far as marijuana "saving the world"..LMAO...That's funnier than revolution ....but a lot more unlikely.
marijuana will "save the world"?.... "from what"? would be my question.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Then, when the smoke clears, Republicans will still have NOTHING to offer the middle class.

What middle class? It already evaporated under Obama.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

When will this inevitable civil war take place? After another Democrat wins? After a Republican wins?

Ironically, it will take place after a Republican wins. While Progressives (Democrats) rule clumsily, the Neocon (Republican) rules viciously.

 

[KNB]

Remember Operation American Spring? No, no one does because it was a stupid idea.

No I don't. It seems only lefties ever knew what American Spring was and is. I wouldn't doubt if it was a site erected by leftie think tanks for the very purpose of doing nothing.

Basically, a left-wing organization right now could create another " Great Right Wing Militia Event" and pay good money to advertise it, and then not do anything to actually organize it, and then spam the leftist controlled media that a Right Wing Militia Event failed.

lolololol

lolololol ******* derp.

Which massive leftist corporations control the liberal media? Name them.

Disney, Time-Warner, Bertelsmann (a German company), News Corp (an Australian company), Comcast/GE, Viacom, AT&T? Which of these monolithic billionaire corporations are 'leftist'?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

When will this inevitable civil war take place? After another Democrat wins? After a Republican wins?

Ironically, it will take place after a Republican wins. While Progressives (Democrats) rule clumsily, the Neocon (Republican) rules viciously.

One more Bush/Cheney combo will send the Tea Party/Liberty Movement into full scale rebellion.

Without a doubt the next Neocon Administration (Peter King-like) will suspend jury trials and attempt to confiscate firearms from the Tea Party.

Mark my words.

And they'll have the backbone support of the majority of loyalist Repugs while they are at it. The Repugs that disagre with Gun Control now will NOT disagree/resist Gun Control/Confiscation when a Repug President does it.

The "excuse" will be to disarm and imprison foreign and domestic terrorists, probably after some Jihadi group sneaks a nuke into one of our major cities. Of course our Government won't just go after foreign muslim terrorists (something that Peter King has said he wanted to do), but it will also use this time to attack Tea Party and Libertarians.

Don't worry Democrats, the Government won't target you, because it doesn't fear you. They know you either disarmed physically, or at the very least, disarmed intellectually. I'm sure all you Democrats/Progressives/Marxist scum will line up in support and clap at any Neocon President that slaughters Tea Party/Libertarians. You'll call that President a "real Republican, very moderate and down the middle."