IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

[Little-Acorn]

You know the Democrats are losing their grip on government, when they can't even keep their stories straight.

How hasty and panicked was the latest excuse about "Lois Lerner's computer crashed, and that resulted in her emails being deleted"?

Especially after the top IRS official said a few months ago, that IRS emails are kept on remote servers, far from the employee's computer?

And when such backups of official emails systems are required by Federal law???

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IRS Commissioner, in March: Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers' - Guy Benson

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'
Guy Benson | Jun 16, 2014

Camp's office said the missing emails are mainly ones to and from people outside the IRS, "such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."

(snip)

What a remarkable coincidence. Correspondence that could potentially reveal a wider conspiracy to use the enforcement power of the federal government to target, harass and punish conservative groups has been irreversibly "lost," so the agency's compliance with Congressional subpoenas will necessarily be incomplete. Oh, and the time frame just happens to align with the period in which the targeting practices were first initiated.

Problem: The current IRS commissioner testified under oath in March that agency emails are "stored in servers." This entire exchange with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) is worth watching, as John Koskinen serves up excuses for why the IRS has been so slow to turn over requested materials to Congress -- but the key bit begins about 90 seconds in:

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Chaffetz: What email system do you use there at the IRS?

Koskinen: What email system do we use?

Chaffetz: Yeah, is it Outlook, or…

Koskinen: Yes, we have actually Microsoft -- or at least I have -- Microsoft Outlook.

Chaffetz: So you go on there, and you want to find all of the items you sent under your name, how long would that take?

Koskinen: Well it'd take awhile because they're not all on my computer. They're all stored somewhere.

[Skipping ahead]

Chaffetz: That's [part] of the brilliance of the email system. You go in and you check the 'sent' box, and the inbox, and you suddenly have all of the emails, correct?

Koskinen: Right. They get taken off and stored in servers…

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Based on these answers, those emails should be backed up somewhere on servers, making it utterly implausible that Lerner's so-called computer crash could have permanently deleted any of her messages.

Ed Morrissey notes, "the relevant files would be kept on the servers or on backup media, which would have data for the whole organization and not just a single user…[that's] especially true in organizations that require data storage and full retrieval capacity by statute — such as federal agencies like the IRS."

 

[Little-Acorn]

This is looking worse and worse for the liberal fanatics running our government.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Where ya been? We covered this two days ago.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Where ya been? We covered this two days ago.

Did I miss the post quoting IRS Commissioner John Koskinen telling the COngressional investigators that the emails were stored on servers?

Where is it?

 

[Mojo2]

You know the Democrats are losing their grip on government, when they can't even keep their stories straight.

How hasty and panicked was the latest excuse about "Lois Lerner's computer crashed, and that resulted in her emails being deleted"?

Especially after the top IRS official said a few months ago, that IRS emails are kept on remote servers, far from the employee's computer?

And when such backups of official emails systems are required by Federal law???

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IRS Commissioner, in March: Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers' - Guy Benson

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'
Guy Benson | Jun 16, 2014

Camp's office said the missing emails are mainly ones to and from people outside the IRS, "such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."

(snip)

What a remarkable coincidence. Correspondence that could potentially reveal a wider conspiracy to use the enforcement power of the federal government to target, harass and punish conservative groups has been irreversibly "lost," so the agency's compliance with Congressional subpoenas will necessarily be incomplete. Oh, and the time frame just happens to align with the period in which the targeting practices were first initiated.

Problem: The current IRS commissioner testified under oath in March that agency emails are "stored in servers." This entire exchange with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) is worth watching, as John Koskinen serves up excuses for why the IRS has been so slow to turn over requested materials to Congress -- but the key bit begins about 90 seconds in:

--------------------------------

Chaffetz: What email system do you use there at the IRS?

Koskinen: What email system do we use?

Chaffetz: Yeah, is it Outlook, or…

Koskinen: Yes, we have actually Microsoft -- or at least I have -- Microsoft Outlook.

Chaffetz: So you go on there, and you want to find all of the items you sent under your name, how long would that take?

Koskinen: Well it'd take awhile because they're not all on my computer. They're all stored somewhere.

[Skipping ahead]

Chaffetz: That's [part] of the brilliance of the email system. You go in and you check the 'sent' box, and the inbox, and you suddenly have all of the emails, correct?

Koskinen: Right. They get taken off and stored in servers…

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Based on these answers, those emails should be backed up somewhere on servers, making it utterly implausible that Lerner's so-called computer crash could have permanently deleted any of her messages.

Ed Morrissey notes, "the relevant files would be kept on the servers or on backup media, which would have data for the whole organization and not just a single user…[that's] especially true in organizations that require data storage and full retrieval capacity by statute — such as federal agencies like the IRS."

Chaffetz asks IRS Commissioner: "Are you going to comply with subpoena?" - YouTube

Great thread.

Great post.

 

[Little-Acorn]

So who will investigate this latest "incident"?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Where ya been? We covered this two days ago.

Did I miss the post quoting IRS Commissioner John Koskinen telling the COngressional investigators that the emails were stored on servers?

Where is it?

Yeah. You missed it. It was posted several times. Brietbart had it and your fellow lemmings beat you to it.

It doesn't prove anything anyway. The guy spoke the truth as he knew it. You idiots have been searching for an IRS smoking gun for a long time. Do you feel duped yet?

There is no there, there. Friday's brief outrage has calmed down to a whimper. Not even a new statement from Issa or Camp? Wonder why not?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

 

[Little-Acorn]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

And in June the lying Left continues to destroy evidence covered by subpoena, and then try to blame the right for its absence.

 

[LoneLaugher]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

And in June the lying Left continues to destroy evidence covered by subpoena, and then try to blame the right for its absence.

Who destroyed evidence? That's a crime. Someone notify Issa! Quick !

 

[Little-Acorn]

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

And in June the lying Left continues to destroy evidence covered by subpoena, and then try to blame the right for its absence.

Who destroyed evidence?

Good question.... since it is clear that evidence has been deliberately destroyed, and even lied about.

That's a crime.

Have you notified Lois Lerner and her handlers, of your conclusion?

Someone notify Issa! Quick !

Done.

Have you written to your congressman, demanding that your questions here be answered?

(snicker)

 

[chikenwing]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

Good grief you are one ignorant hoser.Your president said there was bad wrong doing himself right on TV,you don't believe him also?

Its s sad state when idiot partisan ,will give a pass to any politician, public employe that cheats lies or steals,just because they are on their side.

 

[LoneLaugher]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

Good grief you are one ignorant hoser.Your president said there was bad wrong doing himself right on TV,you don't believe him also?

Its s sad state when idiot partisan ,will give a pass to any politician, public employe that cheats lies or steals,just because they are on their side.

The POTUS was reacting to the media storm when he noted that mistakes were made. He did the same thing with Shirley Sherrod. Sadly. One of his less desirable traits is his being so quick to respond to RW nuttiness. He still hasn't learned to ignore that shit.

Nobody is getting a pass. Lerner lost her job. No crime was committed. She admitted to cutting some corners. That's as far as this shit goes.

 

[Little-Acorn]

That's a crime.

No crime was committed.

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through to convince themselves their case is plausible, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

 

[LoneLaugher]

That's a crime.

No crime was committed.

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through, to convince themselves they are presenting a plausible case, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

I see what you did there! Sneaky fucker, ain't ya?

 

[Little-Acorn]

That's a crime.

No crime was committed.

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through, to convince themselves they are presenting a plausible case, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

I see what you did there! Sneaky fucker, ain't ya?

And then they try to pretend that catching them in a flat lie, is somehow the other guy's fault.

 

[RoadVirus]

IRS Commissioner, in March: Lois Lerner's Emails Are 'Stored in Servers'

And in June the partisan right continues to fail to provide any evidence of ‘wrongdoing.’

Funny, considering the Left had Chris Christie tried, convicted and sentenced over Bridgegate on Day 1!

 

[LoneLaugher]

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through, to convince themselves they are presenting a plausible case, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

I see what you did there! Sneaky fucker, ain't ya?

And then they try to pretend that catching them in a flat lie, is somehow the other guy's fault.

You caught me in a flat lie? That's a crime! Notify Issa....quick!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

That's a crime.

No crime was committed.

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through to convince themselves their case is plausible, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

No - normal, reasonable people expect facts and evidence, not the delusional ramblings of the rabid, partisan right.

 

[LoneLaugher]

That's a crime.

No crime was committed.

The amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian doublethink the Left has to go through to convince themselves their case is plausible, defies all wonder sometimes.

The oddest part is, when they present it publicly as though they expect normal, reasonable people to believe it.

No - normal, reasonable people expect facts and evidence, not the delusional ramblings of the rabid, partisan right.

Dude is trying to convince himself that I contradicted myself. He's so stupid...he might be able to do it.