Ironically, NATO should expel America

[Mac1958]

For all of Trump's standard bluster about NATO, I'm beginning to think that NATO would be better off without us.

They clearly can't trust Trump, who is transactional only, who doesn't worry about relationship-building, who has regularly expressed admiration for tyrants and dictators, who cannot be trusted with foreign intelligence, and who has said many negative things about the organization. And now, it looks like Tulsi Gabbard, a person viewed as a significant risk by our (former) allies, will be our new National Intelligence Director, and the FOX propagandist may be "leading" our military.

Just cut the ties before the USA does any more damage. America Alone. Our (former) allies are going to do it unofficially, anyway. They're not going to share sensitive intelligence with us, so what's the point?

What if Trump's America actually withdraws from NATO?

President-elect Donald Trump Won't Immediately Announce a Withdrawal From the Alliance, but the Fracturing of NATO Will Begin With Other Steps by the U.S. – That Could Ultimately Lead to a Nuclear Domino Effect

www.haaretz.com

 

[justoffal]

For all of Trump's standard bluster about NATO, I'm beginning to think that NATO would be better off without us.

They clearly can't trust Trump, who is transactional only, who doesn't worry about relationship-building, who has regularly expressed admiration for tyrants and dictators, who cannot be trusted with foreign intelligence, and who has said many negative things about the organization. And now, it looks like Tulsi Gabbard, a person viewed as a significant risk by our (former) allies, will be our new National Intelligence Director, and the FOX propagandist may be "leading" our military.

Just cut the ties before the USA does any more damage. America Alone. Our (former) allies are going to do it unofficially, anyway.

What if Trump's America actually withdraws from NATO?

President-elect Donald Trump Won't Immediately Announce a Withdrawal From the Alliance, but the Fracturing of NATO Will Begin With Other Steps by the U.S. – That Could Ultimately Lead to a Nuclear Domino Effect

www.haaretz.com

By all means please do! It would save us billions a year in wasted war mongering.

 

[ESay]

NATO was an American tool in their struggle against the Soviet Union in Europe. Now, it is their tool in confronting Russia and influencing the European continent.

 

[ESay]

By all means please do! It would save us billions a year in wasted war mongering.

You got it upside down. War mongering exists in itself, and NATO in its current form is derivative form that, not vice versa.

Look at American insane military budget. It is the biggest corruption scheme that America will ever know.

 

[1srelluc]

Pray they're that stupid. Pray we're that lucky.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

For all of Trump's standard bluster about NATO, I'm beginning to think that NATO would be better off without us.

They clearly can't trust Trump, who is transactional only, who doesn't worry about relationship-building, who has regularly expressed admiration for tyrants and dictators, who cannot be trusted with foreign intelligence, and who has said many negative things about the organization. And now, it looks like Tulsi Gabbard, a person viewed as a significant risk by our (former) allies, will be our new National Intelligence Director, and the FOX propagandist may be "leading" our military.

Just cut the ties before the USA does any more damage. America Alone. Our (former) allies are going to do it unofficially, anyway.

What if Trump's America actually withdraws from NATO?

President-elect Donald Trump Won't Immediately Announce a Withdrawal From the Alliance, but the Fracturing of NATO Will Begin With Other Steps by the U.S. – That Could Ultimately Lead to a Nuclear Domino Effect

www.haaretz.com

What makes it ironic? You don’t know what the word means.

 

[justoffal]

NATO was an American tool in their struggle against the Soviet Union in Europe. Now, it is their tool in confronting Russia and influencing the European continent.

Nato is no longer just a self-defense organization. It would appear they have a vested interest in destabilizing and trying to overthrow Russia. Russia is apparently aware of this. Now I'm not saying that Russia hasn't been unreasonably aggressive in some instances. But then again so has the United States.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Good idea. With the money we pay NATO we could militarized the border.

 

[justoffal]

Good idea. With the money we pay NATO we could militarized the border.

Yeah but then it wouldn't be available for kickbacks, graft and boomerang bucks.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yeah but then it wouldn't be available for kickbacks, graft and boomerang bucks.

That's why we can't elect democrats.

 

[justoffal]

You got it upside down. War mongering exists in itself, and NATO in its current form is derivative form that, not vice versa.

Look at American insane military budget. It is the biggest corruption scheme that America will ever know.

Either way it would represent an enormous amount of saved money that is currently being spent only for the purpose of destabilizing other governments. NATO may have had a real purpose at one time but it has certainly meandered away from its original mission statement.

 

[ESay]

Nato is no longer just a self-defense organization. It would appear they have a vested interest in destabilizing and trying to overthrow Russia. Russia is apparently aware of this. Now I'm not saying that Russia hasn't been unreasonably aggressive in some instances. But then again so has the United States.

It was a self-defense organization at the Cold War. Now, it is an expansionist organization whose sole goal is projection of force.

 

[JWBooth]

Ironically, NATO should expel America​

Splendid, terrific idea.

 

[ESay]

Either way it would represent an enormous amount of saved money that is currently being spent only for the purpose of destabilizing other governments. NATO may have had a real purpose at one time but it has certainly meandered away from its original mission statement.

For some people it would be lost money.

 

[zaangalewa]

@justoffal @80zephyr​

Do not forget to tell your master Putin to end his stupid, senseless and criminal war on Europe in the Ukraine. Leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday.

 

[zaangalewa]

Good idea. With the money we pay NATO we could militarized the border.

You pay no money to the NATO ... better to say the NATO budget is only about $1-2 billion. You pay much less money to this budget as you think to do. Germany for example pays the same as you do. First of all you are paying for your own army. And so is doing every other member of the NATO. The NATO is only a defence alliance.

 

[Frankenstein]

For all of Trump's standard bluster about NATO, I'm beginning to think that NATO would be better off without us.

They clearly can't trust Trump, who is transactional only, who doesn't worry about relationship-building, who has regularly expressed admiration for tyrants and dictators, who cannot be trusted with foreign intelligence, and who has said many negative things about the organization. And now, it looks like Tulsi Gabbard, a person viewed as a significant risk by our (former) allies, will be our new National Intelligence Director, and the FOX propagandist may be "leading" our military.

Just cut the ties before the USA does any more damage. America Alone. Our (former) allies are going to do it unofficially, anyway. They're not going to share sensitive intelligence with us, so what's the point?

What if Trump's America actually withdraws from NATO?

President-elect Donald Trump Won't Immediately Announce a Withdrawal From the Alliance, but the Fracturing of NATO Will Begin With Other Steps by the U.S. – That Could Ultimately Lead to a Nuclear Domino Effect

www.haaretz.com

Yeah they know who their sugar Daddy is and they ain't biting the hand that protects their arse