Iran to sign deal

[Chuz Life]

No. This is me in its entirety, from the post you linked but did not quote, chosing only to quote the thread title written by the OP of the thread.
Here is what I posted:
"I have nothing against Roe vs Wade. Abortion is not often the best solution, but the often alternative of raising the child in poverty stricken, drug infested, single mother home for welfare benefits is not a good solution either. Heck, we got lots of people in Maximum Security that the world, their families, their victims, the cops, the tax payers would all have be better off if their mother had chosen abortion. My wife and I raised our three kids through their college years and took them to church, but I don't set myself or the government up to decide reproduction decision by fiat across the land."

Let me know when you find something where I did not support the Constitution.

Was the Roe v Wade decision (that you have nothing against) Constitutional?

 

[White 6]

Was the Roe v Wade decision (that you have nothing against) Constitutional?

According to the current supreme court, No. Are you so shallow as to assume reproductive control by the government to be the main thrust of the US Constitution? Earlier Supreme Court, disagreed with you. Historically, there have been far more years where it was not unconstitutional, than when it was. Be that as it may, it is certainly not the mark of support for the Constitution, for me to say, I have nothing against the Supreme Court Ruling of Roe vs Wade. As you read, my wife and I raised 3 kids and never aborted any.

Try again, Chuz. It is no wonder you chose Chuz as your moniker on here.

But, are you saying Trump's war of choice, its timing, results and failing to attain desired results his attempts now to negotiate a peace, are related to support for the US Constitution? Please explain.

 

[Chuz Life]

According to the current supreme court, No. Are you so shallow as to assume reproductive control by the government to be the main thrust of the US Constitution? Earlier Supreme Court, disagreed with you. Historically, there have been far more years where it was not unconstitutional, than when it was. Be that as it may, it is certainly not the mark of support for the Constitution, for me to say, I have nothing against the Supreme Court Ruling of Roe vs Wade. As you read, my wife and I raised 3 kids and never aborted any.

Try again, Chuz. It is no wonder you chose Chuz as your moniker on here.

But, are you saying Trump's war of choice, its timing, results and failing to attain desired results his attempts now to negotiate a peace, are related to support for the US Constitution? Please explain.

You said that you are pro Constitution for all human beings, regardless of age, gender, location and level of development.

It is very clear that is a false claim.

As far as the Constitutionality of Trump's actions in the middle east, it is completely Constitutional, for as long as he is responding with military actions that fall short of a "Declaration of war."

Just as all of the Presidents past were authorized/permitted to do.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I have always been pro Constitution. Aren't you? If not, why not?
But, what does that have to do with the Orange Jesus, making a deal with Iran to extricate his ass from the shitstorm he created with his off-the-cuff war?

/—-/ Why are you so anxious for Iran to get nukes and ICBM?

 

[Chuz Life]

/—-/ Why are you so anxious for Iran to get nukes and ICBM?

And for Iran to have control of the Strair.

 

[Zavulon]

/—-/ Why are you so anxious for Iran to get nukes and ICBM?

Because it's a right thing to do. Iran should be able to defend itself from genocidal maniacs from Israel and America.

 

[kyzr]

USS Princeton, USS Iwo Jima, and USS Samuel B. Roberts. Do those names ring a bell?

• USS Princeton – WWII Essex-class carrier providing air support and protection in the Pacific.
• USS Iwo Jima – First purpose-built amphibious assault ship, training and deploying Marines for rapid beachhead operations.
• USS Samuel B. Roberts – WWII destroyer escort that fought a heroic, decisive role in the Battle off Samar, protecting U.S. carriers from overwhelming Japanese forces.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Because it's a right thing to do. Iran should be able to defend itself from genocidal maniacs from Israel and America.

/——/ Why didn’t Israel use her nukes against Iran already? Ever think about that, you big dope?

 

[JoeB131]

Negotiators have arrived at an Iran deal they think satisfies all parties to initiate a 60 day abeyance, though I'm not certain what this really settles? What happens after that? Why does Iran have any leverage in these bargainings?

Supposedly it is a done deal and all that needs done is for Trump to read it over and agree to it, which I doubt he will do. But now I understand that Iran themselves need to agree to it as well, which I'd be shocked if they do.

Even if signed, I expect it to be broken immediately by Iran which forces everyone back to the table. Just more of the same stupid game Tehran has been playing for half a century, and we just need to go in there and annihilate these people at any cost, bring them to their knees, end this, prove to Iran and the world these stall tactics will not work, then sell Taiwan the arms they have requested and prove to China that we do not kowtow to their demands neither.
.

Actually, if anyone tanks this deal, it will be the Israelis.

The thing is, Iran did the same thing during the hostage crisis, string Jimmy Carter along that they almost had an agreement to release the hostages, any day now. And Jimmy kept waiting for his "October Surprise" that never happened

 

[JoeB131]

Was the Roe v Wade decision (that you have nothing against) Constitutional?

Probably.

The thing is, if Roe is unconstitutional, so is Griswold v. Connecticut, so is Loving vs. Virginia, and so are a host of other SCOTUS decisions that expand the right of individual privacy.

What SCOTUS didn't do in Roe or Bolton or even Dobbs is declare that Globby the Fetus is a real boy with just as many rights as the woman he is inside. Because that would be absolute chaos.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

• USS Princeton – WWII Essex-class carrier providing air support and protection in the Pacific.
• USS Iwo Jima – First purpose-built amphibious assault ship, training and deploying Marines for rapid beachhead operations.
• USS Samuel B. Roberts – WWII destroyer escort that fought a heroic, decisive role in the Battle off Samar, protecting U.S. carriers from overwhelming Japanese forces.

USS Princeton was a Ticonderoga-class cruiser in the Gulf.

USS Samuel B. Roberts was a Perry-class frigate. My former son-in-law later served on that ship.

I was incorrect. It was the USS Tripoli. Wrong LPH. My mistake. The Iwo Jima has a fatal engineering casualty.

All were struck by Iranian mines in the actions against Iran.

 

[georgephillip]

/----/ "Iran wasn't failing in this current conflict"

• Political Fractures: Beneath the surface of wartime solidarity, deep internal friction is bubbling. A growing coalition of moderate, centrist, and pragmatic conservative figures within Tehran are actively warning the ruling elite that internal public patience is not infinite. Figures close to President Masoud Pezeshkian are publicly signaling the need for realism, cautioning that a prolonged war will cause irreversible economic damage and arguing for an eventual diplomatic off-ramp or ceasefire framework.
  • Production Plunge: Prior to the war, Iranian crude production hovered comfortably between 3.2 to 3.3 million barrels per day (bpd). By April 2026, official figures indicated a drop to 2.85 million bpd, and output continues to spiral downward.
  • The Export Collapse: The maritime pressure campaign has effectively choked off transit through the Strait of Hormuz. Tanker loadings at main terminals have collapsed to a meager 640,000 bpd. Furthermore, China—Tehran's primary economic lifeline—has slashed its imports of Iranian crude by roughly 38% since the war began.
  • Storage and Refineries: With offshore floating storage nearly maxed out and onshore facilities completely full, Tehran is facing a severe infrastructure bottleneck. Reports indicate that Iran will soon have no choice but to slash production down to its bare domestic consumption baseline of roughly 1.7 million bpd. While conventional oil wells can technically handle being "shut in" and restarted later without permanent damage, natural gas fields (like South Pars, where processing facilities were damaged in March) face much higher technical risks.

What's your source?

GoogleAI Overview:

"Whether Iran is 'winning' or 'losing' depends on the metric used: militarily, it suffered immense damage and resource loss, but strategically and politically, it emerged with significant leverage and intact regional influence.."

"The Case for 'Winning' (Strategically & Diplomatically)

• "Regime Survival: Despite facing the world's most powerful militaries, the hardline government in Tehran survived the conflict and consolidated its internal political standing. [1, 2]"
• Asymmetric Leverage: Iran demonstrated an ability to disrupt global shipping and choke off vital oil supply routes through the Strait of Hormuz, shifting major financial and diplomatic leverage to Tehran. [1, 2]
• Intact Proxy Network: Regional armed groups tied to Iran remained functional and battle-tested."

 

[kyzr]

Did Trump just lift the US blockade?

Did Iran just agree to Trump's terms????

Iran-US war live: Trump says blockade in Hormuz and pledges ‘final decision’ on MOU

Trump said he will be meeting now in the Situation Room “to make a final determination”

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Moonglow]

/—-/ Why are you so anxious for Iran to get nukes and ICBM?

When will that happen, since you know so much?

 

[Spaniard22]

There will be an agreement for another 60 days of threats and ultimatums, "defensive bombings", and for the Strait of Hormuz to open and close as the Revolutionary Guard pleases.

 

[Zavulon]

/——/ Why didn’t Israel use her nukes against Iran already? Ever think about that, you big dope?

It's simple. Israel doesn't posses enough nukes to totally destroy Iran, and hard, but not killing strike is often deadly to those who use it. Israel is like a bee that can sting, but only once. If it sings, it dies. The Minimal Deterrence. It provides insurance only against total annihilation of the state. "If you want to destroy our state, you'll suffer significant, and, in the normal circumstances, unacceptable damage."
With some nukes and ICBMs Iran will posses only the same level of deterrence.

 

[Zavulon]

Did Trump just lift the US blockade?

Did Iran just agree to Trump's terms????

Iran-US war live: Trump says blockade in Hormuz and pledges ‘final decision’ on MOU

Trump said he will be meeting now in the Situation Room “to make a final determination”

www.independent.co.uk

C'mon, we both know that Trump's words are nothing but meaningless noise.

 

[Cellblock2429]

It's simple. Israel doesn't posses enough nukes to totally destroy Iran, and hard, but not killing strike is often deadly to those who use it. Israel is like a bee that can sting, but only once. If it sings, it dies. The Minimal Deterrence. It provides insurance only against total annihilation of the state. "If you want to destroy our state, you'll suffer significant, and, in the normal circumstances, unacceptable damage."
With some nukes and ICBMs Iran will posses only the same level of deterrence.

/----/ You're just making crap up. Israel has never officially confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons, nor has it ever conducted an overt public nuclear test.
Here are the estimates.

1. The Inventory Estimate​

Because the program is entirely clandestine, precise numbers are impossible to verify. However, consensus consensus among leading defense think-tanks places Israel's active inventory at:

• Estimated Warheads: Between 75 and 90 nuclear warheads (with some unclassified historic U.S. intelligence estimates suggesting the capability to rapidly assemble up to 130 or even 200 depending on plutonium stockpiles).
• Fissile Material: Israel produces its weapons-grade plutonium at the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center near Dimona. Experts estimate Israel has produced enough legacy fissile material for significantly more warheads than it currently keeps deployed or assembled.

2. The Israeli "Triad" (Delivery Mechanisms)​

A nuclear arsenal is only as effective as its delivery systems. Despite its small geographic size, Israel is widely believed to have developed a highly sophisticated "nuclear triad," allowing it to launch nuclear strikes from land, air, and sea.

Land: Ballistic Missiles​

The backbone of Israel’s land-based deterrent is the Jericho ballistic missile family, siloed in highly secure, hardened underground facilities (such as the Sdot Micha airbase).

• Jericho II: A solid-fuel, medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) with a range estimated at 1,500 to 3,500 km.
• Jericho III: An advanced intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) with a multi-stage solid-fuel booster. It has an estimated range of over 4,800 km to 6,500 km, giving Israel the technical capability to strike targets across the entire Middle East, Europe, and deep into Asia.

Air: Strike Aircraft​

The Israeli Air Force (IAF) features specially modified fighter-bombers capable of carrying nuclear gravity bombs.

• The primary delivery platforms are long-range F-15I Ra'am and F-16I Sufa aircraft.
• Israel's newer fleet of stealth F-35I Adir fighters provides an advanced penetration capability against heavily defended airspace, though whether they are integrated into the nuclear mission remains classified.

Sea: The Ultimate Second-Strike Capability​

This is the most critical element for regional deterrence. Israel operates a fleet of advanced, German-built Dolphin-class submarines managed by the Israeli Navy.

• The Capability: The newer Dolphin-II submarines are equipped with Air-Independent Propulsion (AIP), allowing them to remain submerged silently for weeks at a time, hidden deep within the Mediterranean Sea or the Indian Ocean.
• The Weapon: These submarines feature modified 650mm torpedo tubes capable of launching indigenous Popeye Turbo long-range cruise missiles, which independent intelligence analysts believe are fitted with downsized nuclear warheads. This ensures a guaranteed "second-strike" capability—meaning even if Israel’s land assets were completely destroyed in a surprise attack, the submarines could launch a devastating retaliatory strike.

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3. Yield and Strategic Posture​

Unlike the United States or Russia, which possess multi-megaton thermonuclear weapons (hydrogen bombs), Israel's doctrine focuses heavily on regional deterrence.

• Most experts estimate Israeli warheads feature yields in the sub-kiloton to 50-kiloton range (for context, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was roughly 15 kilotons).
• Some analysts suggest Israel has developed enhanced-radiation weapons (tactical neutron bombs) designed to stop massive armored advancements while minimizing collateral environmental destruction, as well as boosted fission weapons.

The Strategic Reality: Israel's nuclear program serves as an existential insurance policy. Within military doctrine, this is often tied to the theoretical "Samson Option"—a desperate, last-resort strategy where nuclear weapons would be unleashed against an adversary if the state itself faced total physical annihilation. Outside of that extreme scenario, the arsenal remains completely silent, hidden behind the shield of official ambiguity.

SOURCE

Augmenting Israel's Qualitative Military Edge

www.meforum.org

 

[Zavulon]

/----/ You're just making crap up. Israel has never officially confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons, nor has it ever conducted an overt public nuclear test.
Here are the estimates.

1. The Inventory Estimate​

Because the program is entirely clandestine, precise numbers are impossible to verify. However, consensus consensus among leading defense think-tanks places Israel's active inventory at:

• Estimated Warheads: Between 75 and 90 nuclear warheads (with some unclassified historic U.S. intelligence estimates suggesting the capability to rapidly assemble up to 130 or even 200 depending on plutonium stockpiles).
• Fissile Material: Israel produces its weapons-grade plutonium at the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center near Dimona. Experts estimate Israel has produced enough legacy fissile material for significantly more warheads than it currently keeps deployed or assembled.

2. The Israeli "Triad" (Delivery Mechanisms)​

A nuclear arsenal is only as effective as its delivery systems. Despite its small geographic size, Israel is widely believed to have developed a highly sophisticated "nuclear triad," allowing it to launch nuclear strikes from land, air, and sea.

Land: Ballistic Missiles​

The backbone of Israel’s land-based deterrent is the Jericho ballistic missile family, siloed in highly secure, hardened underground facilities (such as the Sdot Micha airbase).

• Jericho II: A solid-fuel, medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) with a range estimated at 1,500 to 3,500 km.
• Jericho III: An advanced intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) with a multi-stage solid-fuel booster. It has an estimated range of over 4,800 km to 6,500 km, giving Israel the technical capability to strike targets across the entire Middle East, Europe, and deep into Asia.

Air: Strike Aircraft​

The Israeli Air Force (IAF) features specially modified fighter-bombers capable of carrying nuclear gravity bombs.

• The primary delivery platforms are long-range F-15I Ra'am and F-16I Sufa aircraft.
• Israel's newer fleet of stealth F-35I Adir fighters provides an advanced penetration capability against heavily defended airspace, though whether they are integrated into the nuclear mission remains classified.

Sea: The Ultimate Second-Strike Capability​

This is the most critical element for regional deterrence. Israel operates a fleet of advanced, German-built Dolphin-class submarines managed by the Israeli Navy.

• The Capability: The newer Dolphin-II submarines are equipped with Air-Independent Propulsion (AIP), allowing them to remain submerged silently for weeks at a time, hidden deep within the Mediterranean Sea or the Indian Ocean.
• The Weapon: These submarines feature modified 650mm torpedo tubes capable of launching indigenous Popeye Turbo long-range cruise missiles, which independent intelligence analysts believe are fitted with downsized nuclear warheads. This ensures a guaranteed "second-strike" capability—meaning even if Israel’s land assets were completely destroyed in a surprise attack, the submarines could launch a devastating retaliatory strike.

---

3. Yield and Strategic Posture​

Unlike the United States or Russia, which possess multi-megaton thermonuclear weapons (hydrogen bombs), Israel's doctrine focuses heavily on regional deterrence.

• Most experts estimate Israeli warheads feature yields in the sub-kiloton to 50-kiloton range (for context, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was roughly 15 kilotons).
• Some analysts suggest Israel has developed enhanced-radiation weapons (tactical neutron bombs) designed to stop massive armored advancements while minimizing collateral environmental destruction, as well as boosted fission weapons.

Yes. It's not enough to totally eliminate Iran even if they launch all out nuclear attack on them. Especially with lesser chances of planes and cruise missiles reach the most import targets. So, more or less reliable part of their missile strike capability is twenty five to fifty Jericho II and III ballistic missiles in the caves of Sdot Micha. It's not enough neither to destroy Iranian nuclear forces, nor to wipe out all its human resources.

 

[georgephillip]

Did Trump just lift the US blockade?

Did Iran just agree to Trump's terms????

Iran-US war live: Trump says blockade in Hormuz and pledges ‘final decision’ on MOU

Trump said he will be meeting now in the Situation Room “to make a final determination”

www.independent.co.uk

This is the most current claim I can find

"Updated 3:05 PM EDT, Fri May 29, 2026"

"The sides reached a potential agreement to open the key waterway and start nuclear talks, but the deal has been awaiting sign-off from the US president..."

"Where things stand​

• "Potential deal: US President Donald Trump says he is holding a meeting in the White House Situation Room to make a 'final determination' after Washington and Tehran reached a tentative agreement this week to open the Strait of Hormuz and start nuclear talks."