Iran Fights - Obama Slights

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As Iranians face yet another government crackdown over the weekend Obama once again gives scant attention, bookending brief comments on the Iranian situation with comments regarding the attempted terrorist attack that took place three days prior...
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...Embarrassingly for Washington, even many European leaders showed more backbone in condemning the Iranian regime’s brutal suppression of protestors, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton humiliatingly outflanked by her French and German counterparts, who had no qualms about speaking out swiftly and firmly against the election result and the actions of the Iranian government.

In the six months that have followed, Barack Obama’s high-risk engagement strategy has simply encouraged more repression from the Mullahs, as well as ever greater levels of defiance over Iran’s nuclear weapons programme.

...Now once again huge street protests have flared up on the streets of Tehran and a number of other major cities, with several protesters shot dead this weekend by the security forces and Revolutionary Guards, reportedly including the nephew of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, and dozens seriously injured. And again there is deafening silence from the Commander-in-Chief as well as his Secretary of State. And where is the president? On vacation in Hawaii, no doubt recuperating from his exertions driving forward the monstrous health care reform bill against the overwhelming will of the American public and without a shred of bipartisan support.


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Iranian protesters are dying for freedom – where is Barack Obama? – Telegraph Blogs
 
At least 5 killed in Iran protests

TEHRAN, Iran – Iranian security forces fired on stone-throwing protesters in the center of the capital Sunday in one of the bloodiest confrontations in months, opposition Web sites and witnesses said. At least five people were killed.

Some accounts of the violence in Tehran were vivid and detailed, but they could not be independently confirmed because of government restrictions on media coverage. Police, who denied using firearms, said dozens of officers were injured and more than 300 protesters were arrested.

The dead included a nephew of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, according to Mousavi's Web site, Kaleme.ir. The clashes were sure to deepen antagonism between the government and a reform movement that has shown resilience in the face of repeated crackdowns.

The street chaos coincided with commemorations of Shiite Islam's most important observance, Ashoura, fueling protesters' defiance with its message of sacrifice and dignity in the face of coercion.



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At least 5 killed in Iran protests - Yahoo! News
 
Obama Dithers n Withers while the world mocks him for the empty suit he now so clearly is - and always has been...
 
Iran's best chance lies with its people. When they are willing to pay the price for a new government and redefined role of religion in their nation, real change will happen. The leaders that emerge from the struggle will have legitimate power borne of sacrifice. Otherwise they will be viewed as puppets of the west.
 
Iran's best chance lies with its people. When they are willing to pay the price for a new government and redefined role of religion in their nation, real change will happen. The leaders that emerge from the struggle will have legitimate power borne of sacrifice. Otherwise they will be viewed as puppets of the west.

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Agreed - but we can always give them assurances of supporting them fully when that time comes, such as Reagan did during the Cold War.

Real hope - not the manufactured Obama campaign version, could prove an incredibly powerful component of another Iranian revolution that throws the religious extremist Mullahs out on their collective ass...
 
Barry is an assclown, but he cannot influence happenings in Iran.

They allowed the Mullahs to take over, and only they can remove them.
 
Iran's fight is not our fight.

Exactly. Until THEY determine their own leadership, there's no one to talk to anyway. What kind of intervention would the US do? It's looking more and more like the IRG is trying to usurp the power of the mullas, so it would be stupid to jump into that fray now.
 
Barry is an assclown, but he cannot influence happenings in Iran.

They allowed the Mullahs to take over, and only they can remove them.

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Ultimately, that is correct...


I agree. Its up to the people to remove those they put in power. We can offer moral support but doubt seriously BO will offer anything more than that.

Of course one never knows what goes on behind the scenes.
 
Iran's best chance lies with its people. When they are willing to pay the price for a new government and redefined role of religion in their nation, real change will happen. The leaders that emerge from the struggle will have legitimate power borne of sacrifice. Otherwise they will be viewed as puppets of the west.

Another correct response. I'm glad to see some sensibility here today.
 
Iran's best chance lies with its people. When they are willing to pay the price for a new government and redefined role of religion in their nation, real change will happen. The leaders that emerge from the struggle will have legitimate power borne of sacrifice. Otherwise they will be viewed as puppets of the west.

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Agreed - but we can always give them assurances of supporting them fully when that time comes, such as Reagan did during the Cold War.

Real hope - not the manufactured Obama campaign version, could prove an incredibly powerful component of another Iranian revolution that throws the religious extremist Mullahs out on their collective ass...

:cuckoo:

So which "side" should we sell some weapons to? Or maybe we should send a few brigades in and get in the middle of another pending civil war on foreign soil.
 
Iran's fight is not our fight.


You fail to see the forest for the trees.

And sadly, within a few months - or perhaps even weeks, you may wish to reconsider...

Had we not been dragged into Iraq there might be a will to do something about the regime in Iran, but the American people are tired of constant warmongering and plunging our country further into debt due to foreign nation building. Our soldiers are tired and they aren't getting taken care of properly.

The Middle East has been at war since the beginning of time and it hasn't changed.
 
Obama Dithers n Withers while the world mocks him for the empty suit he now so clearly is - and always has been...

Are you on crystal meth? The world loves Obama. He is perceived to represent what America is always saying it is - for freedom etc etc - not what that totalitarian puppet who previously occupied the WH was all about..

..as for Iran - keep you nose out. Last time the US interfered Ollie North ended up in a Senate hearing.....
 
As Iranians face yet another government crackdown over the weekend Obama once again gives scant attention, bookending brief comments on the Iranian situation with comments regarding the attempted terrorist attack that took place three days prior...
___

...Embarrassingly for Washington, even many European leaders showed more backbone in condemning the Iranian regime’s brutal suppression of protestors, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton humiliatingly outflanked by her French and German counterparts, who had no qualms about speaking out swiftly and firmly against the election result and the actions of the Iranian government.

In the six months that have followed, Barack Obama’s high-risk engagement strategy has simply encouraged more repression from the Mullahs, as well as ever greater levels of defiance over Iran’s nuclear weapons programme.

...Now once again huge street protests have flared up on the streets of Tehran and a number of other major cities, with several protesters shot dead this weekend by the security forces and Revolutionary Guards, reportedly including the nephew of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, and dozens seriously injured. And again there is deafening silence from the Commander-in-Chief as well as his Secretary of State. And where is the president? On vacation in Hawaii, no doubt recuperating from his exertions driving forward the monstrous health care reform bill against the overwhelming will of the American public and without a shred of bipartisan support.


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Iranian protesters are dying for freedom – where is Barack Obama? – Telegraph Blogs

What would you like him to do?
 
Iran's best chance lies with its people. When they are willing to pay the price for a new government and redefined role of religion in their nation, real change will happen. The leaders that emerge from the struggle will have legitimate power borne of sacrifice. Otherwise they will be viewed as puppets of the west.

They have been paying the price. Scores have been killed. May I suggest you check out Twitter?
 

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