IRAN already shutting down the Strait again?

[kyzr]

This is not about Iranian flagged tankers. (I doubt they even have any - since they are sanctioned since 40+ years )
I want to see the USA seizing an e.g. Panama flagged tanker taking a contract load to e.g. Germany, not to mention a Chinese flagged tanker.

I don't care what the ship's "flag" is.
If the "sanctioned" oil is from Iran I'd seize it and ensure Iran gets no revenue for it.

 

[kyzr]

Russia do enough to not allow Iran to be defeated. If it will be necessary to do more, Russia will do more.

Russia didn't help Syria did they?
Iran doesn't need what Russia has.

 

[eagle1462010]

Russia do enough to not allow Iran to be defeated. If it will be necessary to do more, Russia will do more.

I keep my money in gold. And this bet is really good so far.

AKA You support them because they are our enemy.

Same ole cold war. We gave stingers to take your birds down before.

No real dufference

 

[jacksonlamb]

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't care what the ship's "flag" is.
If the "sanctioned" oil is from Iran I'd seize it and ensure Iran gets no revenue for it.

So, why are you sitting here? Are you a coward?

 

[Kruska]

I don't care what the ship's "flag" is.
If the "sanctioned" oil is from Iran I'd seize it and ensure Iran gets no revenue for it.

If YOU care or not is besides the point.

There are no UN imposed sanctions onto Iranian oil.

US sanctions are not binding to any other country besides the USA. - That the USA might punish a buyer of Iranian Oil via e.g. imposing import tariffs onto the respective buyer country is possible.

Therefore if the US would order to board or seize such a e.g. Chinese vessel it would be an act of war. !!

 

[HikerGuy83]

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[jacksonlamb]

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You are looking good there HikerGuy.

 

[Zavulon]

Russia didn't help Syria did they?

Of course Russia helped. If Syrian people don't want Assad - it's their own choice. And yes, we killed enough of terrorists to make Syria way safer.

Iran doesn't need what Russia has.

It's up to them. At least they need Russian intelligence data, Russian cruise missiles, may be, they will need Russian nukes.

 

[Zavulon]

AKA You support them because they are our enemy.

Of course no. We have some good mutually profitable businesses with them, and that's why you decided to attack them.

Same ole cold war. We gave stingers to take your birds down before.

And we'll give them some birds to hit your ships and cities.

No real dufference

Everything happens for the last time.

 

[eagle1462010]

Of course no. We have some good mutually profitable businesses with them, and that's why you decided to attack them.


And we'll give them some birds to hit your ships and cities.

Everything happens for the last time.

Yes I know. You gonna Nuke the World.

Its winnable. Yadda yadda yadda

 

[kyzr]

If YOU care or not is besides the point.
There are no UN imposed sanctions onto Iranian oil.
US sanctions are not binding to any other country besides the USA. - That the USA might punish a buyer of Iranian Oil via e.g. imposing import tariffs onto the respective buyer country is possible.
Therefore if the US would order to board or seize such a e.g. Chinese vessel it would be an act of war. !!

Yes there are sanctions on Iranian oil, Trump recently lifted them temporarily.
If countries try to buy Iranian oil hefty tariffs can change their minds.

 

[kyzr]

Of course Russia helped. If Syrian people don't want Assad - it's their own choice. And yes, we killed enough of terrorists to make Syria way safer.

Putin still has ties to Syria...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2025/12/12/year-after-assads-fall-russia-preserves-syrian-energy-influence/

Russia should see that the mullahs are not popular in Iran and help us with regime change like in Syria.

It's up to Iran. At least they need Russian intelligence data, Russian cruise missiles, may be, they will need Russian nukes.

If Russia gives anyone nukes to anyone they are responsible for them. A very dangerous idea knowing that Iran's terrorist proxies would have no hesitation using them.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin still has ties to Syria...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2025/12/12/year-after-assads-fall-russia-preserves-syrian-energy-influence/

Of course we have.

Russia should see that the mullahs are not popular in Iran and help us with regime change like in Syria.

It's entirely inner business of Iranians themselves. We can work with anybody who is trusted by Iranian people.

If Russia gives anyone nukes to anyone they are responsible for them. A very dangerous idea knowing that Iran's terrorist proxies would have no hesitation using them.

Do you think that the USA are responsible for Israel's nukes? Of course no. If you sold weapons it's already their responsibility. Only stupid people have no hesitations. And stupid people don't obtain nukes. Of course, Iran will use nukes only if it's attacked and it's very existence is on stake. And they won't give them to their proxies. I don't say that it's perfectly safe, it's not, the very fact of increased numbers of the members of nuclear club increases risks for everyone, but it's safer than allow USA to capture Iran.

 

[Kruska]

Yes there are sanctions on Iranian oil, Trump recently lifted them temporarily.
If countries try to buy Iranian oil hefty tariffs can change their minds.

Those are not UN sanctions - because there are no UN sanctions on Iranian oil.
TACO gave e.g. India a waiver on US "imposed" sanctions. And e.g. Russia, China or Cuba couldn't give a shit about US imposed sanctions onto Iranian oil.
Therefore US imposed sanctions are directed at states who depend or have strong economic ties to the US. aka where "blackmail" by the US is feasible.